- Location
- Germany
[X] Sirim
Finding the Spark (Pathfinder 1E Quest)
- Thread starter DragonParadox
- Start date
- Fantasy
-
- Tags
- pathfinder
Level 2, she is almost out of that most Colleges of Magic in Golarion consider the mage's apprenticeship, which is the point at which you can cast second circle spells.
- Location
- being near locations is my passion.
[X] Sirim
I do like the arguments for why Sirim should be the primary tutor.
If it's not too late, it might be worthwhile to see if we can pick up a RoSS, and throw in that bone-spell that gives DR5 against two of the physical damage types?
Edit: @DragonParadox is it reasonable for us to have organised in the background to have a planned schedule where we put a casting of Mirror Sight into a RoSS for Anippe to have live two-way communication with her mum every so many days?
"Known Mirror: The current refection in another mirror with which you are familiar."
This one should bypass accidental will saves, as long as they each see the other's mirror before Anipee leaves.
I do like the arguments for why Sirim should be the primary tutor.
If it's not too late, it might be worthwhile to see if we can pick up a RoSS, and throw in that bone-spell that gives DR5 against two of the physical damage types?
Edit: @DragonParadox is it reasonable for us to have organised in the background to have a planned schedule where we put a casting of Mirror Sight into a RoSS for Anippe to have live two-way communication with her mum every so many days?
"Known Mirror: The current refection in another mirror with which you are familiar."
This one should bypass accidental will saves, as long as they each see the other's mirror before Anipee leaves.
Last edited:
Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
- Location
- Formerly of the Far Realm
RoSS? Rodents of Significant Size?
Which bone spell is that? You mean Defending Bone? Kori knows that one.
Sirim knows Clay Skin, which is even better, but it's a 3rd level spell.
EDIT: Ah, Ring of Spell Storing.
Last edited:
[X] Gorok
Pairing a kid with the energy level of a husky on cocaine with a really deadpan lizardman does sound like it could be the start of a comedy routine
Pairing a kid with the energy level of a husky on cocaine with a really deadpan lizardman does sound like it could be the start of a comedy routine
- Location
- being near locations is my passion.
Rodents of Significant Size are Perfectly Normal Beasts, in their own way.RoSS? Rodents of Significant Size?
Which bone spell is that? You mean Defending Bone? Kori knows that one.
Sirim knows Clay Skin, which is even better, but it's a 3rd level spell.
Thanks for telling me about Clay Skin, I need to go over the char sheets soon.
Clay skin would be a fair bit better, except it's minute/level rather than hour/level, though that's a very niche advantage in these circumstances.
The main thing is, is there a really clutch level 1 defensive/escape spell to put into the ring for Anippe to have on-hand?
If there is, that'd push me to preferring Defending Bone.
Ah yes, that would work, though it would cost the spell slots to use it every other day or so.
- Location
- being near locations is my passion.
Yeah, it'd be a sacrifice of whatever spells were already in the ring - so they'd need to be put back in, and Sirim would need to prepare and cast the spell into ring with a third level slot.
For the purposes of casting that spell so Eshe can talk with her daughter for [min/caster level] minutes every... few days(?) - and for extra defences for Anippe, does Eshe have any RoSS she'd be able to sell.
And even if she doesn't have any to sell (that we'd keep at the end of this), would she have one that she'd be ok sending out with Anippe for the duration?
----
Oh! idea! If we're not in a position for Anippe to be available to chat with her mum at the scheduled time then that'd cause worry.
Anippe's mirror should be stored in a box (secured to the side of it) with a continual flame'd item inside, and that way we can write a note and stick to the side of the Box (facing the mirror) for Eshe to see. Ok, so that might be me going a bit far into the weeds about something that's unlikely to be an issue, but I just love doing this sort of thing with spells in D&D.
[I really really like this idea for two way communications. Also notes is also a great backup way to communicate if the pre-agreed casting schedule breaks down for whatever reason.]
Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
- Location
- Formerly of the Far Realm
Clay Skin is 10 minutes per level. Still worse than Defending Bone, but much better than 1 minute per level.Rodents of Significant Size are Perfectly Normal Beasts, in their own way.
Thanks for telling me about Clay Skin, I need to go over the char sheets soon.
Clay skin would be a fair bit better, except it's minute/level rather than hour/level, though that's a very niche advantage in these circumstances.
The main thing is, is there a really clutch level 1 defensive/escape spell to put into the ring for Anippe to have on-hand?
If there is, that'd push me to preferring Defending Bone.
Rodent ofRing of Spell Storing
There aren't a ton of 1st level spells that can make a big difference.
Stone Shield is one we've talked about before.
Vanish is another. It's Invisibility, but only lasts 5 rounds.
Windy Escape is a good one, but it's normally limited by race. Wild Arcana might be able to duplicate it, though, depending on what @DragonParadox says.
Windy Escape – d20PFSRD
www.d20pfsrd.com
Liberating Command is kinda niche, but very effective at what it does.
Liberating Command – d20PFSRD
www.d20pfsrd.com
That's overcomplicating things a bit, dude. There is no reason Sirim can't just cast the spell himself, targeting a mirror Eshe shows him before we leave, then allowing the mother and daughter to communicate using the mirrors.
Wild Arcana only lets you copy spells off your list, if it is not on there normally you can't do it. It's the same reason why Kori can't cast divine spells locked to specific gods.
Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
- Location
- Formerly of the Far Realm
That's what I thought, too. Figured it would be worth checking, though.
On that subject, I know Wild Arcana and Inspired Spell can't duplicate a Paragon Surge spell, but what about this:
Paragon Surge – d20PFSRD
www.d20pfsrd.com
Can we buy a wand with the spell, then have Pepper boost his UMD skill, add some buffs, and emulate being a Half-Elf? The UMD skill check DC for that is 25.
Then he could cast Paragon Surge into a Ring of Spell Storing. That would let Kori use the spell to temporarily learn the Expanded Arcana feat, which would allow him to learn one or two new spells for a short while.
- Location
- being near locations is my passion.
1. Misread the page. The 10min/level is much much better than min/level, and with that and the lack of amazing level 1 spells, I'm in favour of her having a RoSS of Clay Skin.
2. I got very mixed up and thought that only the caster can see through the mirror. Looking again, it makes a "magical sensor", so I think it would be caster only unless Anippe had some what to share Sirim's senses, except for:
So Eshe can cast it, and Anippe can be near the mirror at the right time and they can write to eachother easily.
Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
- Location
- Formerly of the Far Realm
If Eshe has a Ring of Spell Storing Anippe can use, I'm cool with that. I'm not sure about retasking the ones we have for Anippe's use, though. If necessary, I guess Mina's would be the most likely to get the job.
Another good defensive spell that could go into the ring is False Life. It's 2nd level.
False Life – d20PFSRD
www.d20pfsrd.com
That would be 1d10+9 Temp HP if Sirim cast it with Wild Arcana, and it would last 9 hours. Sure, Clay Skin could prevent more damage overall, but preventing 5 points of physical damage from multiple attacks isn't necessarily better than being able to soak a single larger burst of damage from virtually any source, especially if you have very low HP to begin with.
And that would leave room for her to have another 1st level spells stored, too.
- Location
- St. Petersburg
I am still set on Cob, though not for the sake of amusement. Alright, that too, but it is more of a byproduct. The question I asked myself was, who would I want to be the kid's mentor figure for the journey?
There were two choices: a mage, and a rogue. While the girl is herself a rare magical talent, I chose the other one because I found Cob's circumstances a lot more similar to hers, and his skillset far more relevant. What do we expect from an eight year old in case of a kidnapping attempt? To run away from her pursuer, to crawl down a crevice no one would find her, to hide and mask her presence, or should worse come to worst, to stab them in the eye with a knife when they would expect a helpless victim covering in fear. Who does that sound like?
She and Cob are alike in physical limitations and temperament, and if anyone could teach her to outsmart a superior enemy looking down on them, it's our goblin companion. Sirim would be better for her in the long run, if she were to find herself without her mother to direct her development, but as things stand we do not expect her to tap her potential as a prodigy in a short timespan we'll be traveling together. I believe a quick survival course from a perspective not even her mother can give her would be more useful to her --- and to us -- here and now.
[X] Cob
There were two choices: a mage, and a rogue. While the girl is herself a rare magical talent, I chose the other one because I found Cob's circumstances a lot more similar to hers, and his skillset far more relevant. What do we expect from an eight year old in case of a kidnapping attempt? To run away from her pursuer, to crawl down a crevice no one would find her, to hide and mask her presence, or should worse come to worst, to stab them in the eye with a knife when they would expect a helpless victim covering in fear. Who does that sound like?
She and Cob are alike in physical limitations and temperament, and if anyone could teach her to outsmart a superior enemy looking down on them, it's our goblin companion. Sirim would be better for her in the long run, if she were to find herself without her mother to direct her development, but as things stand we do not expect her to tap her potential as a prodigy in a short timespan we'll be traveling together. I believe a quick survival course from a perspective not even her mother can give her would be more useful to her --- and to us -- here and now.
[X] Cob
Last edited:
Massgamer
Advance toward the Future
- Location
- The Future
I agree that having Cob teach her how to stay out of sight and make use of her small build would be great for a hopefully short trip, especially if anyone shows up trying to nap her since we want her out of fight as much as possible.
[X] Cob
@DragonParadox can we introduce her to Warty at some point? Since I'm sure he will be unleashed once on boat or at least back in Cheliax.
[X] Cob
@DragonParadox can we introduce her to Warty at some point? Since I'm sure he will be unleashed once on boat or at least back in Cheliax.
Last edited:
Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
- Location
- Formerly of the Far Realm
Once we teleport over to Cheliax, I don't see much reason for keeping Warty hidden. We'll be in potentially hostile territory, so having him ready for action makes sense, IMO.
Anippe would probably enjoy some Slurkriding, but I don't know if we want her to be that exposed should combat occur.
Given that the boat will mostly be crewed by unseen spirits you would have room for Warty on it yeah.
Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
- Location
- Formerly of the Far Realm
@DragonParadox, does the stuff Eshe sales include
Alchemical power components?
If not, could we have purchased some in the five days we were waiting for the Summon Ship foci to be crafted? I keep forgetting about them.
Alchemical power components?
If not, could we have purchased some in the five days we were waiting for the Summon Ship foci to be crafted? I keep forgetting about them.
Last edited:
Vote closed.
Who Gets Attacked in the night:
Mina 1-3
Akorian 4
Sirim and Anippe 5
Cob 6
Gorok 7
Who Gets Attacked in the night:
Mina 1-3
Akorian 4
Sirim and Anippe 5
Cob 6
Gorok 7
Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
- Location
- Formerly of the Far Realm
Oh crap, so that's how it's going to work out. At least Cob is the best suited for avoiding such an attack and retaliating appropriately.
I guess we had one more night in Augustana before departing?
Were we able to buy any Alchemical power components from Eshe, or other vendors in the city over the past five days? They're mostly all pretty common ingredients that should be available from multiple suppliers.
Yes, you were able to get them.