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Earth Bet: House of the Sun (Cultist Simulator/Worm)

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[X] Plan: Strengthening of forces and promotion but reading forge.
-[X] [BOOK] A well-worn pamphlet about a hidden regiment during World War 2 - Secret Histories Level 1. Costs 7 Funds
-[X] [BOOK] A book on breathing and how to withstand cold weather - Heart Level 1. Costs 7 Funds
-[X] [BOOK] A cookbook with a strangely large section of repairing tools - Forge Level 1. Costs 7 Funds
-[X] On work and the challenges it entails.
--[X] You'll work your hours and no more (Gain no extra actions, default)
-[X] On promotion and improvement (The below actions improve your chance of being selected as Director should Carol be unable to perform her duties)
--[X] You'll put the work in and bust a few gang operations
-[X] On furthering the cause.
--[X] Items and strange artifacts, go search for them. They could be useful
-[X] On learning the Lores.
--[X] You've got your own books now, just read them
---[X] Forge, Secret Histories
-[X] A fleeting opportunity (rumor mills spin, opportunities come and go. These actions might never be available again)
--[X] Alicja has just arrived in town and is asking concerning questions. You'll have to figure out how to handle this.
 
Honestly the "parasites" piece made me think of Worm shards, more than Nothing worms…

I wonder what the connection between the two is, if any.
 
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Malthusa778 said:
Important to note that studying books does not guarantee scraps while the manuscripts do. Books have a DC of 50 that gets our learning and Lantern applied to the roll. So while it is slightly more AP efficient it's probably better overall to get the Lantern bonus first from the manuscript and then do the study action.
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Furthermore, in the base/inspiring/original quest the study skill check is to see whether the character manages to get anything useful out of reading the text, in the sense of eldritch enlightenment. Failing the check means the book was useless, we get no scraps and discard the book.
 
Malthusa778 said:
Important to note that studying books does not guarantee scraps while the manuscripts do. Books have a DC of 50 that gets our learning and Lantern applied to the roll. So while it is slightly more AP efficient it's probably better overall to get the Lantern bonus first from the manuscript and then do the study action.
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Then it's better to take a guaranteed lesson from the Master.
Malthusa778 said:
The Attention of the Laws is a free action and doubles the application bonus of the chosen lore so you should probably add it in to the plan.
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Added a Learning boost to make it more likely to study books.
 
Venerable Ro said:
Furthermore, in the base/inspiring/original quest the study skill check is to see whether the character manages to get anything useful out of reading the text, in the sense of eldritch enlightenment. Failing the check means the book was useless, we get no scraps and discard the book.
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That is correct I simply forgot to add it. I've added that information to the informational sheet.

H2F2 said:
Added a Learning boost to make it more likely to study books.
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You pick a Lore not a Stat, so if you wanted to boost the study books you'd pick Lantern
 
H2F2 said:
Added a Learning boost to make it more likely to study books.
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It's based on the lores(Edge, Grail, Winter etc) not the stats. If you wanted a boost to the book action then Lantern would be the option(though with our current lore level it would only go from +1 to +2 compared to the +5 to +10 it would be if we got our Lantern up prior to the study action).
 
H2F2 said:
Then it's better to take a guaranteed lesson from the Master.
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Eh, mechanically maybe, but narratively I suspect she'd, prefer that we pursue self-sufficiency. I'm actually quite excited by the sustained fortune of us finding a heart book concurrent with the Library getting a Heart manuscript, Heart level two right there, despite the Master having no interest in teaching it, we'll be just that little bit more difficult to kill.
 
[X] Plan: Progression And Promotion
-[X] Purchases:
--[X] [BOOK] A well-worn pamphlet about a hidden regiment during World War 2 - Secret Histories Level 1. Costs 7 Funds
--[X] [BOOK] A book on breathing and how to withstand cold weather - Heart Level 1. Costs 7 Funds
--[X] [BOOK] A cookbook with a strangely large section of repairing tools - Forge Level 1. Costs 7 Funds
-[X] On work and the challenges it entails.
--[X] You'll work your hours and no more (Gain no extra actions, default)
-[X] On promotion and improvement (The below actions improve your chance of being selected as Director should Carol be unable to perform her duties)
--[X] You'll put the work in and bust a few gang operations
-[X] On learning the Lores.
--[X] The cult's library has a few texts, go read up on them
---[X] The manuscript on Lantern (You will gain 1 scrap of Lantern)
--[X] You've got your own books now, just read them
---[X] Heart, Secret Histories
-[X] A fleeting opportunity
--[X] Alicja has just arrived in town and is asking concerning questions. You'll have to figure out how to handle this.
-[X] On Rites, Rituals and the things inbetween
--[X] You'll cast The Attention of the Laws (Lantern)

[X]Plan: Helping Arch
 
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ScribeTransient said:
Hmm... I would prefer if we hold off on learning Heart right now, since our Master refuses to teach it. Unless we could pawn it off to Arch?
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Master won't touch Heart because she's a servant of the embodiment of nihilistic unmaking, and so the Unceasing Lore is directly antithetical to her nature. I don't think she has a personal issue with it though or she would have forbidden its presence in the Cult's Library.

[X] Plan: Progression And Promotion
 
[X] Plan: Do the Prep Work
-[X] [BOOK] A well-worn pamphlet about a hidden regiment during World War 2 - Secret Histories Level 1. Costs 7 Funds
-[X] [BOOK] A book on breathing and how to withstand cold weather - Heart Level 1. Costs 7 Funds
-[X] [BOOK] A cookbook with a strangely large section of repairing tools - Forge Level 1. Costs 7 Funds
-[X] On work and the challenges it entails.
--[X] You'll work your hours and no more (Gain no extra actions, default)
-[X] On promotion and improvement (The below actions improve your chance of being selected as Director should Carol be unable to perform her duties)
--[X] You'll put the work in and bust a few gang operations
-[X] On learning the Lores.
--[X] The cult's library has a few texts, go read up on them
---[X] The manuscript on Lantern (You will gain 1 scrap of Lantern)
--[X] Your Master is willing to teach, request a lesson
---[X] Edge
-[X] A fleeting opportunity (rumor mills spin, opportunities come and go. These actions might never be available again)
--[X] Alicja has just arrived in town and is asking concerning questions. You'll have to figure out how to handle this.

I'd rather get the bonus from Lantern before we start reading any books as so to reduce the risk of wasting them, and levelling our Edge to 2 when we might have to deal with our Enemy soon is preferable, also furthering our main lore is always useful.
 
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[X]Plan: Helping Arch
-[X] [BOOK] A well-worn pamphlet about a hidden regiment during World War 2 - Secret Histories Level 1. Costs 7 Funds
-[X] [BOOK] A book on breathing and how to withstand cold weather - Heart Level 1. Costs 7 Funds
-[X] [BOOK] A cookbook with a strangely large section of repairing tools - Forge Level 1. Costs 7 Funds
-[X] On work and the challenges it entails.
--[X] You'll cut a few corners here, leave a bit early (Gain an extra action, will not be noticed if not done often)
-[X] On promotion and improvement (The below actions improve your chance of being selected as Director should Carol be unable to perform her duties)
--[X] You'll put the work in and bust a few gang operations
-[X] On furthering the cause.
--[X] Assist somebody else in their task
---[X] Arch (Give him the books, ask for lesson in Lantern)
-[X] On learning the Lores.
--[X] The cult's library has a few texts, go read up on them
---[X] The manuscript on Knock (You will gain 1 scrap of Knock)
-[X] On Rites, Rituals and the things inbetween
--[X] You'll cast The Attention of the Laws (Edge)
-[X] The Mansus, a place of contradictions. It calls to you, reach out
--[X] Explore the Woods and it's many secrets
-[X] A fleeting opportunity (rumor mills spin, opportunities come and go. These actions might never be available again)
--[X] Alicja has just arrived in town and is asking concerning questions. You'll have to figure out how to handle this.

We'll work on getting that promotion and helping Arch in exchange for helping us, building rapport.
Reading Knock so we can get into those confidental files eventually and exploring the Woods for some more Lore.
And of course, dealing with our enemy, they will be a problem if not taken care of.

EDIT: Added AotL, since I just learned first one is free action, maybe I should have read that more carefully. I decided for Edge due to busting gangs and we may also find something in the Woods again. We also have an esoteric trait that we cannot be denied and I want to know if using Edge AotL will make those two things interact.
 
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[] Plan: Do the Prep Work

I Like This, since it promotes learning more Lore and improving our Edge. I'm a sucker for Prep. But the other two feel better to me.

[] Plan: Progression And Promotion

I generally like this plan for the obvious focus on learning and progressing in as many Lores as possible as quickly as possible. And yet I have another preference.

[X]Plan: Helping Arch

I love most of this, but not buying the book feels a bit foolish. We have PLENTY of money right now, and we only have one manuscript on Heart right now. It'll help, but the more we get into that library, the better chance we have of getting to higher level lores. And while- yes- we need higher tier scraps to get higher tier Lores, no one else seems to be noticing a problem with it.

Regardless, it focuses on building our relationship with this worlds Loremaster. If he ends up AT ALL like Velvet, we will want him as a confidant sooner than later. The better we ingratiate now, the less we'll struggle with it later when we're more strapped for AP.
 
dbRevned said:
Pretty sure they are different books. Same type of lore gained but actually different.
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ShadeFiende said:
I love most of this, but not buying the book feels a bit foolish
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I based this on the fact that it is level 1, and since you need only one scrap to reach level 2 then the book would be useless for him.

If you really think we should buy the book then I would add it, I just myself think that maybe he makes rolls for the books given that last turn he made one manuscript and now he made two.

EDIT: I don't know what I was thinking, when you are level 1 you can read level 1 books to advance. I will add the Heart book to plan.

EDIT 2: No wait, I panicked-overreacted. You are level 0, you need one level 1 book to reach level 1, two level 2 books to reach level 2 as so on.
I'll keep the book on anyway, Arch can decide what to do with it.
 
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Venerable Ro said:
Furthermore, in the base/inspiring/original quest the study skill check is to see whether the character manages to get anything useful out of reading the text, in the sense of eldritch enlightenment. Failing the check means the book was useless, we get no scraps and discard the book.
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I think only the crit fail meant the book is completely useless? Simple fail just means you couldn't get anything useful on that attempt.
It is a Learning check after all, not Secret Histories or Fate.
 
[X] Plan: Do the Prep Work

This one looks fun too.

[X]Plan: Helping Arch

This as well, taking level one books and dumping them on the loremaster so we don't have to risk losing them to a study action is an inspired trick. Let's see if it works out.

Sintonir said:
I think only the crit fail meant the book is completely useless? Simple fail just means you couldn't get anything useful on that attempt.
It is a Learning check after all, not Secret Histories or Fate.
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Sadly no.

Witherbrine26 said:
Reading a book
-You roll against a DC of 50, using Learning and Lantern gaining a scrap of Lore on a success
-Upon failure the book is discarded and destroyed
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Until we get that Lantern cranked up we're only very average when it comes to book smarts, so unless we find something really nifty we're better off trading basic level books in to be made into manuscripts.
 
I just want to point out that this quest is inspired by the BirdBodhisattva quest and a lot of mechanics are taken from where.
And in the BirdBodhisattva quest, reading books did not destroy them, and if the study test was unsuccessful, you could try it next time.
 
Venerable Ro said:
Sadly no.
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I was talking about the other quest, the one you refered here:
Venerable Ro said:
Furthermore, in the base/inspiring/original quest the study skill check is to see whether the character manages to get anything useful out of reading the text, in the sense of eldritch enlightenment. Failing the check means the book was useless, we get no scraps and discard the book.
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In the current quest, of course, it's on QM to decide what mechanics to use, but the part about book being destroyed was only added after you pointed to it in this post as far as I understand.
Anyway,
[X]Plan: Helping Arch
Looks promising.
 
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