I was right! It's a controling intelligence for the secrets themselves!
To clarify a little on this, because Iris would correct you on it assuming Mandy wasn't already clever enough to do so herself.

Project Animus was designed to be an intelligence that would have a Telaxion (bonus points to anyone who works out the references used in making that name) as part of its core systems. It would use this to connect to the...essentially Secrets backend for the presumed purposes of monitoring, modification, etc.

But what you (Amanda) believe you have here is that intelligence and the connector.

Not the backend itself.
 
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[] Embraced this burning moment - A Miracle shall invest this place, and much of Animus shall be made whole. You shall do all you can to restrain its output, but the risk will be considerable. And yet, so too the rewards.
Psst, hey Goat, this didn't actually cast a vote, you need to write [X].

To clarify a little on this, because Iris would correct you on this assuming Mandy wasn't already clever enough to do so herself.

Project Animus was designed to be an intelligence that would have a Telaxion (bonus points to anyone who works out the references used in making that name) as part of its core systems. It would use this to connect to the...essentially Secrets backend for the presumed purposes of monitoring, modification, etc.

But what you (Amanda) believe have here is that intelligence and the connector.

Not the backend itself.
Hmm... This makes a lot of sense, but it carries some implications to think through...

The very first thought that this provokes in my mind is that it means we haven't the foggiest what condition the backend is in.

The next thought is that this means we have to ask nicely if we're going to do anything, because there's a sapient intelligence at the controls -- a sapient intelligence that we know nearly nothing about.

We came into this thinking this was going to be an exercise in engineering.

Suddenly... this may become a social challenge.
 
... hm.

If a telaxion is like a Void Crystal, and we know the Void Crystal has something to do with the space where Mandy met Tahkel... Dang it all, why didn't we take Visions in the Jump? ^^()

But... that would suggest that the AI has some sort of connection to... well, I guess we haven't PROVED that it's the same place as what our researchers call "soulspace" but parsimony suggests that it probably is...

And if this AI was fundamentally built around having a connection to soulspace as a core component and not just a bolted-on piece of equipment...

... this AI might have a soul, like Iris.
 
A lot will depend on exactly how cognizant the AI is about what happened - it appears at the pinnacle of their success the Consolat discovered that enacting the secrets had a Price. After they had already irreversibly triggered the process. And when they did they had mere seconds to react, and unfortunately were missing vital information and so accidentally made things worse in some ways than if they had not reacted at all.

To clarify a little on this, because Iris would correct you on it assuming Mandy wasn't already clever enough to do so herself.

Project Animus was designed to be an intelligence that would have a Telaxion (bonus points to anyone who works out the references used in making that name) as part of its core systems. It would use this to connect to the...essentially Secrets backend for the presumed purposes of monitoring, modification, etc.

But what you (Amanda) believe you have here is that intelligence and the connector.

Not the backend itself.
Ah, I was saying this is the interface to the backend. While the backend may not be functional a functional interface takes controlling the secrets from 'impossible' to merely 'cosmically challenging' if the backend is entirely nonfunctional. But based on whatever is feeding information to Mary... something in this system is intact enough to want this shit fixed, or the consolat managed some kind of soul-space redundancy for data storage and delivery too, and we're just the first capable of interacting with it to come along.
 
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[X] Embraced this burning moment - A Miracle shall invest this place, and much of Animus shall be made whole. You shall do all you can to restrain its output, but the risk will be considerable. And yet, so too the rewards.

It's a risk. A great one... But it feels like what Mandy needs to do.

The funny thing is, this playerbase somehow manages to defy the odds. We all know about how these kinds of mechanics often go in other quests, and yet over the course of The Practice War and The Secrets' Crusade we've seen a lot of amazingly good discussion and quite a number of votes that have swung a lot later in discussion than you might have otherwise expected. (One time back in PW, I swung a result by casting a vote right as Snowfire was closing it. The result of that vote was relevant just recently, since that's when Amanda created the Mender's Eye.) We've even had success with write-in votes at a scale that I understand to be unusual for most quests. And this largely comes down to how respectful and reasonable the vast majority of our players are.

I don't think it's necessarily a problem that only a few players want to do it. That's actually a desirable property, as long as there are enough of those players are sufficiently active. Likewise, there only being two or three meaningfully competing options is a desirable property. What this means is that you have two synergistic groups of players -- the planmakers and the rest of the voting populace, who find enjoyment in different parts of the process. The planmakers are the ones who enjoy really getting into the mechanics, and they produce a smaller number of options that enable everyone else to participate in the quest.

Sure, it CAN certainly go wrong. I find it a little bit telling that you refer to the players competing. But I don't feel like that's the way this playerbase treats it.

That said, the current format is a lot more manageable than how things were back when we were still President. We kinda went for all the acceleration synergies early on and got ourselves a stupid amount of AP to juggle. ^^()
It helps that this quest felt like something where nitpicking and optimisation were around what people thought best, would be coolest or just what they wanted to see. A lot less... Chasing the optima.

All the whilst being clear and simple enough even someone who hadn't really made plans before like myself could throw their hat into the ring. And we got some great successes from those 'rookie planners' as well to reinforce that.

That's one of the hardest things to manage, even if you get the friendly community discussing stuff. Hell, it's one of the reasons (alongside just not having the free time in the same way) I haven't been participating like that elsewhere since (or here, but that's mostly the free time issue instead).
Would I ever abruptly throw an unexpected social challenge at you? 😇
... Well... Not as much since Mandy starting going "You mean progress accelerants, yes?" to them.

:V
 
But... that would suggest that the AI has some sort of connection to... well, I guess we haven't PROVED that it's the same place as what our researchers call "soulspace" but parsimony suggests that it probably is...
And we know what that place is now, right? Right?

Someone please tell me you know. Because you know I can't tell you. >_>
 
[X] Embraced this burning moment

In many ways this was what we were looking for. A way to change the reason for war. We are hopefully crafting a solution to the sorrows.
 
[X] Embraced this burning moment
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If we get direct access to the Secrets, the fun things like false vacuum collapse should be preventable. Without killing of any sapients that might eventually think about doing such a thing. So, the whole reason for the SL to act like they do would vanish. Sure, there'll be the problem of who gets to control the access, but as it is a being, 'control' might not be a thing ...
(And now we roll the nat 1...)
With so many nat 100s there should be one on the horizon (and yes, I know, that's not how statistics work. Theoretically.)
 
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And we know what that place is now, right? Right?

Someone please tell me you know. Because you know I can't tell you. >_>
One might hear the sound of evil laughter, echoing from afar. We'll get there soon enough.

Tossing in a vote tally for now, which is predictably one-sided but less so than I was expecting. Very little interest in Sidestory outlines so far, though, which is surprising and a little disappointing - I was wanting to start on that tonight. From comments so far it'll be a Shiplord related interlude, but I'd really prefer more than 2-3 datapoints to work with.
Adhoc vote count started by Snowfire on Nov 4, 2024 at 6:20 AM, finished with 40 posts and 23 votes.
 
Honestly I'd like to see one of these two perspectives:
  • Between the stars we seek - PoV Alternate Nutrient Source Advised (Neras Starhome)
  • The truth of orders - PoV High Fleetlead Taldor (Returning)

We don't really know all that much of the inner workings of the one polity the Shiplords consider a peer, after all.
 
Tossing in a vote tally for now, which is predictably one-sided but less so than I was expecting. Very little interest in Sidestory outlines so far, though, which is surprising and a little disappointing - I was wanting to start on that tonight. From comments so far it'll be a Shiplord related interlude, but I'd really prefer more than 2-3 datapoints to work with.
Looks up

Oh heck, I knew I forgot something. Regarding the Sidestories... Yeah, Shiplords for sure though I am getting tempted by the Neras now. I feel like Warden or Truth are the best choice right now.
 
[X] Embraced this burning moment

Sidestories in Oder of Interest:
Can young minds only watch, when ancients stir - PoV Shipteen
The truth of orders - PoV High Fleetlead Taldor (Returning)
Warden once meant something. Today, we shall remind our people that we do not bend - PoV Kicha, Entara (Gysian survivor)
 
[X] Found in your will restraint - You can return with others of your Heartcircle, to do this more safely. But if you will find this moment a second time, who can say. With Vega, a Miracle would certainly be possible. But this specific Miracle?
I'm most interested in these sidestories:
-The truth of orders - PoV High Fleetlead Taldor (Returning)
-Warden once meant something. Today, we shall remind our people that we do not bend - PoV Kicha, Entara (Gysian survivor)
 
Very little interest in Sidestory outlines so far, though, which is surprising and a little disappointing - I was wanting to start on that tonight.
In fact, I care a fair bit. I just got distracted considering the vote and forgot. Whoops. :facepalm:

The truth of orders - PoV High Fleetlead Taldor (Returning)
Because I think the process of a stored person reviving is definitely interesting in and of itself with the readjustment to how perspectives and society have changed over the many years, much less the stress of reviving in a high-stakes situation.

Warden once meant something. Today, we shall remind our people that we do not bend - PoV Kicha, Entara (Gysian survivor)
Rather related to Taldor--is that a good thing or a bad thing--but getting multiple angles into the internal social forces at play in Shiplord society right now could be really interesting.

Between the stars we seek - PoV Alternate Nutrient Source Advised (Neras Starhome)
Honestly? They don't interest me that much, but it would be nice to know what the heck their deal is someday.

In fact, I am not that interested in the Space Scooby Gang Shipteens. They're quite nice side characters but in a world filled with sidestory possibilities they aren't on my personal list of priorities. Although their reactions would be funny if they showed up just as we did some reality-altering Practice BS.
 
Current disposition of the FSN's FTL components, gathering for a strike on one of the outer rim naval bases - PoV Lina Sharpe

Warden once meant something. Today, we shall remind our people that we do not bend - PoV Kicha, Entara (Gysian survivor)

Our hand is played, the cards cast forth. Now is to be the truest trial of leadership: patience. - PoV Adriana Thera

any of these
 
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