Echoes of Creation (30k/Exalted)
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Imo, no. IoM treats warp Gods and demons as memetic hazards of galactical level. Less people know about them and more treat them as warp predators - the better.
Lorgar on another hand, preach about unity and comprehension which may lead to studying of the warp to master and comprehend it. Which is against Emperor's wishes.
From Master of Mankind:
I have conquered humanity's cradle-world. I have conquered the galaxy, in order to shape mankind's development as it at last evolves into a psychic race.
That does not seem like someone who wants humans to never learn about the Warp, he just wants them to learn about it on his terms, as just another scientifically explainable part of the cosmos.
He also says:
Article: 'The webway,' Ra murmured into the silent night.
The webway. Mankind is ascending, Ra. Humanity is taking a great developmental step, evolving into a psychic race. Uncontrolled psykers are lodestones for the warp's touch. A species comprising them would suffer as the eldar suffered. And for the eldar, this evolutionary juncture was their final step before destruction. I will not let humanity be destroyed by the same fate. The eldar had the answers within their grasp but were too naive and too proud to save themselves. They had the webway, which could have been their salvation. But they never fully severed their connection to the warp. Their soulfires drew damnation upon their entire species.'
Ra knew this, yet never had it been related to him in these exact words, flavoured as they were by the promise of prophecy. With the webway, humanity would need no Navigators. They would never need to rely on the unreliable warp-whispers of astropaths. Vessels would never enter the warp to be lost or torn apart by the entities that dwelt within it. But the eldar had done the same, had they not? +No. They eradicated their reliance on the warp but they never severed their species' connection to it. I will do that for humanity, once and for all.+
I think the Emperor planned to hijack mankind's evolution to a psychic species and turn it into something else.
Turn 9: To manse or not to manse?
Yzarc
The Spark of Madness
Colchis - 831.M30
The sun was just beginning to rise over the ancient landscapes of Colchis as you stood at the edge of a cliff, overlooking the vast expanse of the world you were helping to shape. The air was thick with the scent of earth and the distant hum of the spirits that had watched over this land for eons. You could feel their presence, their whispers brushing against your mind, urging you forward on the path you had chosen.
Six months ago, you embarked on a journey to establish a Psyker Detection Network across Colchis. The world was changing, and with the resurgence of the Worldsoul and the unification of the planet under Lorgar's guidance, it became clear that the future of Colchis would be deeply intertwined with the powers of the Warp. To harness these powers, however, you needed to find those individuals with the latent potential to wield them, Psykers, who could become the spiritual and magical pillars of the new Colchis.
The first step in your mission was to seek out the spirits, the ancient guardians of the land who had witnessed the rise and fall of civilizations long before the coming of the Primarch. They were the most attuned to the fluctuations in the Warp, the sudden brightening of a soul, or the dangerous drawing of power by an untrained mind. But as you quickly discovered, communicating with these spirits was not a task to be taken lightly.
The spirits of the wild, while powerful and knowledgeable, were not easily understood by those who were not shamans. Their language was one of emotion and intuition, their thoughts woven into the fabric of the natural world in ways that defied human comprehension. This was where Thalassa's expertise became invaluable. Her ability to integrate machine spirits into a vast communication apparatus allowed you to bridge the gap between the spirits and the people of Colchis.
In the early days of the project, you faced significant challenges. The first problem was finding those who could communicate effectively with the spirits. While there were a few shamans who had maintained their connection to the old ways, many had either lost their abilities or were unwilling to involve themselves in what they saw as a dangerous endeavor. You had to convince them, one by one, that their role was crucial to the future of Colchis. Some were swayed by the promise of a brighter future, while others required more personal assurances that their traditions and ways of life would be respected.
Once you had gathered a group of willing shamans, the next challenge was training them to work with the machine spirits. This was no easy feat, as the shamans were deeply rooted in their traditions and were wary of technology. You spent countless hours with them, explaining the purpose of the network and how the machine spirits would only enhance their natural abilities. Thalassa played a crucial role here, demonstrating the harmony that could exist between the natural and the artificial, between the spirits of the wild and the spirits of the machine.
The process was slow and painstaking, but over time, the shamans began to see the value in the machine spirits. They learned to use the communication apparatus to amplify their own abilities, allowing them to detect Psykers with greater accuracy and efficiency. It was a delicate balance, one that required constant attention and adjustment, but it was working.
As the network began to take shape, new challenges arose. The people of Colchis had long been wary of Psykers, their fear rooted in ancient tales of those who had fallen to the temptations of the Warp. Convincing them that Psykers could be a force for good was a monumental task. You held countless meetings with community leaders, patiently explaining the purpose of the network and how it would help protect the people by identifying and training those with psychic potential.
Despite your efforts, there were still those who resisted. Some saw the network as an invasion of privacy, while others believed that the discovery of Psykers would only bring doom to their communities. You encountered more than one village that outright refused to participate, their leaders insisting that they wanted nothing to do with the Warp or its dangers.
It was during these moments of resistance that Lorgar's influence became vital. While he was not always directly involved in the day-to-day operations of the network, his presence loomed large over the project. His philosophy of uniting faith and reason, of guiding the people with wisdom and compassion, resonated with many who were on the fence. Lorgar's words, delivered with his usual charisma and insight, often served to calm fears and build trust where your explanations had faltered.
However, Lorgar's involvement was not without its challenges. His reputation as a god-like figure, despite his repeated denials, made some people fanatic of the network, seeing it as a divine directive. You had to work carefully to distance the network from any perception of divine mandate, emphasizing its practical benefits and the importance of community involvement in its success.
As the months passed, the network slowly expanded across Colchis. You established regional centers where shamans and machine spirits worked together to monitor the psychic potential of the population. Each center was staffed with individuals who had been trained not only in the technical aspects of the network but also in the spiritual and ethical responsibilities that came with detecting Psykers.
The training programs for these staff members were rigorous and comprehensive. They had to learn how to handle the delicate information they received, how to approach individuals with psychic potential with compassion and understanding, and how to work within the broader framework of the network without losing sight of the human element. The fear of Psykers was still strong, and you knew that any misstep could lead to panic or worse.
One of the most significant challenges you faced was integrating the network into the existing social and political structures of Colchis. The planet was still in the process of unifying under Lorgar's leadership, and regional differences were often stark. In some areas, the network was welcomed with open arms, seen as a tool for progress and enlightenment. In others, it was viewed with suspicion, an unwanted intrusion into local affairs.
To address these issues, you spent considerable time traveling across Colchis, meeting with local leaders and explaining the network's purpose. You listened to their concerns, adjusted the network's implementation to fit local customs, and made it clear that the network was a tool to be used by the people, not something imposed upon them. It was a slow process, but by the end of the third month, you had made significant progress in gaining the trust of the regions that had initially resisted.
But perhaps the most profound challenge was the prejudice against Psykers themselves. Even in areas where the network was accepted, the fear and mistrust of those with psychic abilities ran deep. You encountered families who had hidden their children away, terrified that they would be taken from them if their abilities were discovered. In some cases, you had to intervene directly, assuring parents that their children would be treated with care and respect, that they would be given the training they needed to control their powers and use them for the greater good.
Thalassa's role in these situations was crucial. Her ability to communicate with the machine spirits and her understanding of the human psyche allowed her to mediate between the fears of the people and the needs of the network. She worked tirelessly to educate communities about the potential of Psykers, holding workshops and discussions where she explained the training process and the safeguards that were in place to prevent abuse or exploitation.
One of the most significant breakthroughs came in the fourth month when you and Thalassa discovered an ancient site that had been forgotten by time. The site was a natural convergence point for the Warp, a place where the veil between the physical world and the immaterium was particularly thin. It was here that you realized the true potential of the Psyker Detection Network. By aligning the network with these natural convergences, you could enhance the accuracy and reach of the detection process, making it possible to identify Psykers even in the most remote areas of Colchis.
The discovery was both a blessing and a challenge. On the one hand, it allowed you to significantly expand the network's capabilities, making it more efficient and effective. On the other hand, it introduced new risks. The power of these convergence points was immense, and if not handled correctly, they could become dangerous. You and Thalassa spent weeks studying the site, learning how to harness its power without destabilizing the surrounding area. It was a delicate process, but with Thalassa's technical expertise and your deep connection to the spirits, you were able to create a system that was both powerful and stable.
As the fifth month came to a close, the network was operating at a level that far exceeded your initial expectations. Psykers were being identified and brought into the training programs, the communities were beginning to accept the network as a valuable tool, and the integration of the convergence points had made the detection process more accurate and far-reaching.
But despite the progress, there were still challenges to be faced. The integration of the network was an ongoing process, one that required constant attention and fine-tuning. There were still pockets of resistance, still communities that needed to be convinced, and still Psykers who were hiding their abilities out of fear. But with Thalassa at your side, you were confident that the network would continue to grow and evolve, becoming an integral part of the new Colchis.
By the end of the sixth month, the Psyker Detection Network had become a reality. It was a complex and multifaceted system, one that required the cooperation of shamans, machine spirits, and the people of Colchis. It was a testament to the power of unity, of the delicate balance between faith and reason, between the old ways and the new.
CHOICE:
You have found a naturally occurring demanse, or something close enough to it. What do you want to do with it?
[] Leave it as it is.
[] Cap it with a Manse. (Options presented next turn)
The sun was just beginning to rise over the ancient landscapes of Colchis as you stood at the edge of a cliff, overlooking the vast expanse of the world you were helping to shape. The air was thick with the scent of earth and the distant hum of the spirits that had watched over this land for eons. You could feel their presence, their whispers brushing against your mind, urging you forward on the path you had chosen.
Six months ago, you embarked on a journey to establish a Psyker Detection Network across Colchis. The world was changing, and with the resurgence of the Worldsoul and the unification of the planet under Lorgar's guidance, it became clear that the future of Colchis would be deeply intertwined with the powers of the Warp. To harness these powers, however, you needed to find those individuals with the latent potential to wield them, Psykers, who could become the spiritual and magical pillars of the new Colchis.
The first step in your mission was to seek out the spirits, the ancient guardians of the land who had witnessed the rise and fall of civilizations long before the coming of the Primarch. They were the most attuned to the fluctuations in the Warp, the sudden brightening of a soul, or the dangerous drawing of power by an untrained mind. But as you quickly discovered, communicating with these spirits was not a task to be taken lightly.
The spirits of the wild, while powerful and knowledgeable, were not easily understood by those who were not shamans. Their language was one of emotion and intuition, their thoughts woven into the fabric of the natural world in ways that defied human comprehension. This was where Thalassa's expertise became invaluable. Her ability to integrate machine spirits into a vast communication apparatus allowed you to bridge the gap between the spirits and the people of Colchis.
In the early days of the project, you faced significant challenges. The first problem was finding those who could communicate effectively with the spirits. While there were a few shamans who had maintained their connection to the old ways, many had either lost their abilities or were unwilling to involve themselves in what they saw as a dangerous endeavor. You had to convince them, one by one, that their role was crucial to the future of Colchis. Some were swayed by the promise of a brighter future, while others required more personal assurances that their traditions and ways of life would be respected.
Once you had gathered a group of willing shamans, the next challenge was training them to work with the machine spirits. This was no easy feat, as the shamans were deeply rooted in their traditions and were wary of technology. You spent countless hours with them, explaining the purpose of the network and how the machine spirits would only enhance their natural abilities. Thalassa played a crucial role here, demonstrating the harmony that could exist between the natural and the artificial, between the spirits of the wild and the spirits of the machine.
The process was slow and painstaking, but over time, the shamans began to see the value in the machine spirits. They learned to use the communication apparatus to amplify their own abilities, allowing them to detect Psykers with greater accuracy and efficiency. It was a delicate balance, one that required constant attention and adjustment, but it was working.
As the network began to take shape, new challenges arose. The people of Colchis had long been wary of Psykers, their fear rooted in ancient tales of those who had fallen to the temptations of the Warp. Convincing them that Psykers could be a force for good was a monumental task. You held countless meetings with community leaders, patiently explaining the purpose of the network and how it would help protect the people by identifying and training those with psychic potential.
Despite your efforts, there were still those who resisted. Some saw the network as an invasion of privacy, while others believed that the discovery of Psykers would only bring doom to their communities. You encountered more than one village that outright refused to participate, their leaders insisting that they wanted nothing to do with the Warp or its dangers.
It was during these moments of resistance that Lorgar's influence became vital. While he was not always directly involved in the day-to-day operations of the network, his presence loomed large over the project. His philosophy of uniting faith and reason, of guiding the people with wisdom and compassion, resonated with many who were on the fence. Lorgar's words, delivered with his usual charisma and insight, often served to calm fears and build trust where your explanations had faltered.
However, Lorgar's involvement was not without its challenges. His reputation as a god-like figure, despite his repeated denials, made some people fanatic of the network, seeing it as a divine directive. You had to work carefully to distance the network from any perception of divine mandate, emphasizing its practical benefits and the importance of community involvement in its success.
As the months passed, the network slowly expanded across Colchis. You established regional centers where shamans and machine spirits worked together to monitor the psychic potential of the population. Each center was staffed with individuals who had been trained not only in the technical aspects of the network but also in the spiritual and ethical responsibilities that came with detecting Psykers.
The training programs for these staff members were rigorous and comprehensive. They had to learn how to handle the delicate information they received, how to approach individuals with psychic potential with compassion and understanding, and how to work within the broader framework of the network without losing sight of the human element. The fear of Psykers was still strong, and you knew that any misstep could lead to panic or worse.
One of the most significant challenges you faced was integrating the network into the existing social and political structures of Colchis. The planet was still in the process of unifying under Lorgar's leadership, and regional differences were often stark. In some areas, the network was welcomed with open arms, seen as a tool for progress and enlightenment. In others, it was viewed with suspicion, an unwanted intrusion into local affairs.
To address these issues, you spent considerable time traveling across Colchis, meeting with local leaders and explaining the network's purpose. You listened to their concerns, adjusted the network's implementation to fit local customs, and made it clear that the network was a tool to be used by the people, not something imposed upon them. It was a slow process, but by the end of the third month, you had made significant progress in gaining the trust of the regions that had initially resisted.
But perhaps the most profound challenge was the prejudice against Psykers themselves. Even in areas where the network was accepted, the fear and mistrust of those with psychic abilities ran deep. You encountered families who had hidden their children away, terrified that they would be taken from them if their abilities were discovered. In some cases, you had to intervene directly, assuring parents that their children would be treated with care and respect, that they would be given the training they needed to control their powers and use them for the greater good.
Thalassa's role in these situations was crucial. Her ability to communicate with the machine spirits and her understanding of the human psyche allowed her to mediate between the fears of the people and the needs of the network. She worked tirelessly to educate communities about the potential of Psykers, holding workshops and discussions where she explained the training process and the safeguards that were in place to prevent abuse or exploitation.
One of the most significant breakthroughs came in the fourth month when you and Thalassa discovered an ancient site that had been forgotten by time. The site was a natural convergence point for the Warp, a place where the veil between the physical world and the immaterium was particularly thin. It was here that you realized the true potential of the Psyker Detection Network. By aligning the network with these natural convergences, you could enhance the accuracy and reach of the detection process, making it possible to identify Psykers even in the most remote areas of Colchis.
The discovery was both a blessing and a challenge. On the one hand, it allowed you to significantly expand the network's capabilities, making it more efficient and effective. On the other hand, it introduced new risks. The power of these convergence points was immense, and if not handled correctly, they could become dangerous. You and Thalassa spent weeks studying the site, learning how to harness its power without destabilizing the surrounding area. It was a delicate process, but with Thalassa's technical expertise and your deep connection to the spirits, you were able to create a system that was both powerful and stable.
As the fifth month came to a close, the network was operating at a level that far exceeded your initial expectations. Psykers were being identified and brought into the training programs, the communities were beginning to accept the network as a valuable tool, and the integration of the convergence points had made the detection process more accurate and far-reaching.
But despite the progress, there were still challenges to be faced. The integration of the network was an ongoing process, one that required constant attention and fine-tuning. There were still pockets of resistance, still communities that needed to be convinced, and still Psykers who were hiding their abilities out of fear. But with Thalassa at your side, you were confident that the network would continue to grow and evolve, becoming an integral part of the new Colchis.
By the end of the sixth month, the Psyker Detection Network had become a reality. It was a complex and multifaceted system, one that required the cooperation of shamans, machine spirits, and the people of Colchis. It was a testament to the power of unity, of the delicate balance between faith and reason, between the old ways and the new.
CHOICE:
You have found a naturally occurring demanse, or something close enough to it. What do you want to do with it?
[] Leave it as it is.
[] Cap it with a Manse. (Options presented next turn)
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[X] Cap it with a Manse.
Babysitting this place seems like a job for that max Auspex Akuma I was musing about. More generally I think it is worth the risk because we did take that max anti-Chaos blessing. Not saying there is no risk, but when every blade of grass rock and lightbulb hates Chaos to the bottom of its soul you have more of a safety margin than most.
Babysitting this place seems like a job for that max Auspex Akuma I was musing about. More generally I think it is worth the risk because we did take that max anti-Chaos blessing. Not saying there is no risk, but when every blade of grass rock and lightbulb hates Chaos to the bottom of its soul you have more of a safety margin than most.
[X] Cap it with a Manse.
Just a thought about akuma. While they're spiritual different, I think they're still physically human.
That presumably means they can receive augmentations, like Cortex Implants, or the more radical augmentations that people like Titan Princeps, Voidcraft captains and Navigators have that allows them to interface much more deeply with macro-scale networked technology and the Machine Spirits of that technology.
This way, if we construct an akuma the right way, we could literally build one into the manse and the psyker detection network. With the right embedded technology as the physical infrastructure, we could also incarnate Machine Spirits of the infrastructure itself, who could grant Gifts to other staff who interfaced with the network to manage it.
Essentially, an Akuma may be a very valauble crafting component for large infrastructure or voidcraft.
Just a thought about akuma. While they're spiritual different, I think they're still physically human.
That presumably means they can receive augmentations, like Cortex Implants, or the more radical augmentations that people like Titan Princeps, Voidcraft captains and Navigators have that allows them to interface much more deeply with macro-scale networked technology and the Machine Spirits of that technology.
This way, if we construct an akuma the right way, we could literally build one into the manse and the psyker detection network. With the right embedded technology as the physical infrastructure, we could also incarnate Machine Spirits of the infrastructure itself, who could grant Gifts to other staff who interfaced with the network to manage it.
Essentially, an Akuma may be a very valauble crafting component for large infrastructure or voidcraft.
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[X] Cap it with a Manse.
some info about it:
whitewolf.fandom.com
whitewolf.fandom.com
some info about it:
Demesne (AOS)
A Demesne is a place where Creation's dragon lines have eddied together and formed a nexus of magical power. These places possess a surfeit of Essence, which may be tapped by those who know how. Exalted typically raise manses atop such sites to harness their power. First Edition Exalted: Exalted...
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Manse
A manse is a structure of occult architecture used to cap and channel the energy of a demesne. The demesne's energies are geomantically focused by the manse into the creation of a hearthstone and also to power the various features of the structure itself.
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[X] Cap it with a Manse
[X] Cap it with a Manse
Dharok's Mind Partition is a gift he learned like Lorgar's, not a mutation like Fan's Iron Resolve and Fair Fortune. Other than that all seems good.
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[X] Cap it with a Manse.
Same with Lorgar. They're not Fomori style mutants, these are legitimate Gifts from the Spirits to their Shaman, which they are.
Also:
I think the formatting of Sorcery is inconsistent on Dharok's sheet.
Yzarc
The Spark of Madness
Fixed, thanks. Let me know if there is anything else.
Actually speaking of those gifts I wonder if any of the other Primarchs would be interested in becoming more efficient that way once Lorgar explains it to them? I mean assuming that none of them have charms that give more actions yet since they cannot buy charms, except maybe Papa Smurf since he's the Admin guy, being able to double their output is a lot. Maybe that would be tempting enough to go ask the local server-bank spirit for a mystic gift especially for those already inclined to talk to server banks like Vulkan.
Yzarc
The Spark of Madness
Pretty much only Magnus will be interested in makeing deals with Warp Entities by default. The Khan would not really care. Others range from not interested to hostile.
*Warp-nerd activated* Technically spirits do not come from the Warp, they are creatures of the Umbra. 🧐
*wind whistling*
Welp... we could point out the Emperor is made of Shamans, that is something we can find out by pointing Analytic charms out of him, should be a fun conversation for the whole family
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Even Angron?
Angron did not even want to turn into a Daemon Prince once he went Traitor, canon Lorgar has to trick him into it.
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That's not what I was asking. And there are other deals that can be made. Maybe we can pop off to Molech get the same powers Emps got from a good deal.