I find it funny in some ways that almost everyone voted to keep chasing the sun, and then a large chunk are changing their mind.
 
[X] Both

Halfassing it means she doesn't learn that chasing the sun is impossible, she would only wind up believing she didn't try hard enough. Going all in until she crashes is the cleaner solution, otherwise she would always have doubts about her own commitment rather than recognizing that the goal is impossible.
 
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I find it funny in some ways that almost everyone voted to keep chasing the sun, and then a large chunk are changing their mind.
Well, almost everyone voted for it, but that was less out of chasing the Sun, and more just... Doing no gym at all would've been real dumb for progression aha. (Especially since, IIRC, there was something about the action "To Train Them Is Your Cause" being tied to Badge somewhat?)
 
I find it funny in some ways that almost everyone voted to keep chasing the sun, and then a large chunk are changing their mind.
I made the mistake of thinking the compromise option that we might actually succeed at would be popular. In a Quest, of all things. More the fool me.

Personally I think that votes like this in the future should probably be less...split up? Like I think that the voting would have made more sense if the option on the previous vote was "do 2, 1, or 0 badges this month". 2 might still be winning in that case, but we could've sorted it out in one round instead of having the one landslide of "don't do 0" and then this more contentious vote of doing 1 or 2.
 
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I made the mistake of thinking the compromise option that we might actually succeed at would be popular. In a Quest, of all things. More the fool me.

If this was most other MCs then I would have gone for the middle ground. There is so much we need to do.

But Mary has already shown a disregard for her own mental health, and she has committed to this. I can't vote for moderation and feel like we are doing her and the path she is on justice. Moderation doesn't feel in character for her yet, in this regard.
 
[Joke] Sit down, relax. Talk to someone, and try to reach a more stable headspace where you're not burning yourself out and crashing into the ground like a meteorite

[X] Both
 
[X] Both
She developed a complex and now she has to lie in it, I also take issue with the idea that this is somehow impossible to do, its been shown multiple times that this is difficult but achievable for Mary, it'll just take Blood, Sweat and hopefully few tears
 
If this was most other MCs then I would have gone for the middle ground. There is so much we need to do.

But Mary has already shown a disregard for her own mental health, and she has committed to this. I can't vote for moderation and feel like we are doing her and the path she is on justice. Moderation doesn't feel in character for her yet, in this regard.
I just disagree that embarking on a course of action that's definitely going to fail is necessary for roleplaying here.

Like, we barely, by the skin of our teeth, beat Katie in a 1-badge fight 2v3. Doing Both here means that we're doing a 2- and 3-badge fight with an absolute maximum of 4 training/Renne Bond actions before 2 and 6 before 3, and that's if we, as players, force ourselves intentionally ignore every other part of the quest. We are going to lose, and badly.

Now, I don't like losing on purpose (hence my voting the way I am), but if we do take this course of action I guess I will take it as an opportunity to decisively end this subplot with some appropriate self-reflection and character growth instead of continuing to bash our character's head against the wall for the sake of roleplaying. I just kinda wanted to save that for a couple FEs and actually get a third badge sooner than later.

EDIT: Was reminded that if we do Gyms off Field Exercise we get to do the Gym test. I'm now okay with doing Both IF we send Mary to Levincia.
 
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I just disagree that embarking on a course of action that's definitely going to fail is necessary for roleplaying here.

Like, we barely, by the skin of our teeth, beat Katie in a 1-badge fight 2v3. Doing Both here means that we're doing a 2- and 3-badge fight with an absolute maximum of 4 training/Renne Bond actions before 2 and 6 before 3, and that's if we, as players, force ourselves intentionally ignore every other part of the quest. We are going to lose, and badly.

Now, I don't like losing on purpose (hence my voting the way I am), but if we do take this course of action I guess I will take it as an opportunity to decisively end this subplot with some appropriate self-reflection and character growth instead of continuing to bash our character's head against the wall for the sake of roleplaying. I just kinda wanted to save that for a couple FEs and actually get a third badge sooner than later.

Pacing ourselves is not Chasing the Sun though. There is a reason only one of the options has the color. And it's still possible that we could win both of them.

And if we can't, well, we'll be able to move on to more interesting subplots and actually pace ourselves better.
 
I'd rather save doing gym battles outside of field exercises until we obtain our own method of traveling between cities without relying on trains, such as Renne being able to Teleport us or Roland being able to fly us.
 
If anything else, we will get to see what Iono will come up with as a way to both test us and boost her viewers. Since, you know, we kinda need to pick Iono as our second gym to have a chance.
 
If anything else, we will get to see what Iono will come up with as a way to both test us and boost her viewers. Since, you know, we kinda need to pick Iono as our second gym to have a chance.

Larry could work too. Especially with Ruby having the surprise electric attacks. We would just need to train up our rail gun.
 
such as Renne being able to Teleport us or Roland being able to fly us.
I think Renne still could teleport us? Nothing about the Bond 3 requirement seems to impede on her ability to do so, and she knows the move, the only problem is that we haven't been to any Gym locations before. (Well, did we stop at Iono's town on the way to Mesagoza?)
 
I think Renne still could teleport us? Nothing about the Bond 3 requirement seems to impede on her ability to do so, and she knows the move, the only problem is that we haven't been to any Gym locations before. (Well, did we stop at Iono's town on the way to Mesagoza?)
I get the impression that Mariana wouldn't yet feel comfortable asking Renne to help with something that's just a simple time save. Making things more convenient.

After one more bonding event probably.
 
I get the impression that Mariana wouldn't yet feel comfortable asking Renne to help with something that's just a simple time save. Making things more convenient.

After one more bonding event probably.
Hmmm, perhaps...

But this has me curious enough that I wanna outright ask Arvis. Hey @ArvisPresley, would Renne (even if Mary wouldn't want to, so specifically Renne) be okay with providing a teleport service, or would that need a higher Bond first?
 
Hmmm, perhaps...

But this has me curious enough that I wanna outright ask Arvis. Hey @ArvisPresley, would Renne (even if Mary wouldn't want to, so specifically Renne) be okay with providing a teleport service, or would that need a higher Bond first?
She'd be willing once she masters Teleport. She'd think having time without one of Leaf's Pokemon looking over her shoulder would be great.
 
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