OK so we can's just stick a demon into a human to get fast Essence users and teachers. I think there might be a way around it especially with Thalassa's specialization and the Lore of Flesh: make blank bodies with no souls for our Essence 1 Demons to inhabit, no conflict since there is no one in there.

As far as Fan knows should this work?
You can skip that and Wyldshape essence using people. That would save you z lot of steps. The only thing you need to fill in is personalities. But that streamlines a lot of things.
 
You can skip that and shape essence using people. That would save you z lot of steps. The only thing you need to fill in is personalities. But that streamlines a lot of things.

Oh... we can just make essence users? Well that opens up possibilities. I mean sure they would not be marines, but they would be people who could teach marines (and other psykers) to Enlighten.
 
Oh... we can just make essence users? Well that opens up possibilities. I mean sure they would not be marines, but they would be people who could teach marines (and other psykers) to Enlighten.
People still need to be reasonably powerful psykers to become enlightened.

Even posession would not help as they would be borrowing from the spirit/daemon.
A thousand sons, and all of them sorcerers, huh?

[X] Allow them to go on the journey (They will be unavailable till the end of Turn 9)
This was honestly unintentional. I made a chapter worth of Marines and they got the "Beloved of spirits trait" for saving the Worldsoul.
 
Note to Self: Use Analytical Modeling Intuition on the Emperor to figure out the secret sauce for making better Demigods. :V
(I am only half joking here, that charm mechanically works on one success and we can get that with willpower. In term of defenses is worked on Daemon Primarch Lorgar. This might legitimately be worth a try it we want to get answers from the only person we know who would have them)

We could use the other effect of the charm on Lorgar to try to get the blueprint for a Primarch.

Oh... we can just make essence users? Well that opens up possibilities. I mean sure they would not be marines, but they would be people who could teach marines (and other psykers) to Enlighten.

Or make essence using young adults and turn them into space marines by implanting geneseed into them afterwards. We can ensure compatibility by having them drink from the oasis that gives people Transcendent Desert Creature

The only issue is that almost certainly requires the CCP option that says 'To create useful Essence 1 servants, the Infernal spends one success per servant'.

So, we'd really want to make an artifact to double Wyldshaping successes first, and probably do it in the Warp, for triple successes at DC 2. Could probably make twenty or thirty of them at a time that way, including the effects of CCC.
 
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So, we'd really want to make an artifact to double Wyldshaping successes first, and probably do it in the Warp, for triple successes at DC 2. Could probably make twenty or thirty of them at a time that way, including the effects of CCC.

At the very least this would allow the Exalted Shamans to deal with attrition. No matter how careful we are some of them will die, it is the nature of the setting.
 
How having Temples impact Worldsoul? Does it increase its base strength?

How Spirits interact with worldsoul? Is it like a Yozi Hierarchy?

Can a Worldsoul incorporate external mythos of its population or individual like Lorgar? Canon Example will be how exodites incorporate Spiritstones to worldsoul of their planet and add them to infinity circuit.
 
At the very least this would allow the Exalted Shamans to deal with attrition. No matter how careful we are some of them will die, it is the nature of the setting.

One thing to note is that we probably can't replicate our Enlightened Shaman-Sorcerer Space Marines with True Faith 7 in any reasonable numbers. Even Lorgar, IIRC, can only reliably preach his sons to True Faith 5.

They're probably best used as Teachers and Trainers of future generations on Colchis.

Can a Worldsoul incorporate external mythos of its population or individual like Lorgar? Canon Example will be how exodites incorporate Spiritstones to worldsoul of their planet and add them to infinity circuit.

I think to be precise, they have a Worldsoul instead of an infinity circuit.
 
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. . . would Lorgar giving a rousing speech to the 1000 before they go onto the vision quest/journey count as a stunt to boost their chance of success?
 
[X] Allow them to go on the journey (They will be unavailable till the end of Turn 9)
The spirit's gaze was unwavering as it explained further. "However, this purity comes at a price. It imposes a rigid order upon all sons of Child. This essence, while immensely powerful, is also inflexible. The very stability that grants them their power and connection to the Child also limits their capacity for change."
Hmm, I suspect this comes from Lorgar killing Kairos Fateweaver.
 
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. . . would Lorgar giving a rousing speech to the 1000 before they go onto the vision quest/journey count as a stunt to boost their chance of success?

My sons. This world's sons. The heirs in spirit of all the galaxy's heroes. You are yet children, as I am a child. Like my maker did for me, we have tried to grant you knowledge*, but we know that only experience can allow you to develop your own wisdom. So go. The time has come, it seems, for you to leave the cradle to discover that wisdom inside yourself on your journey. Know that I love you, my sons, and that I have faith that you will return as men, that through both sadness and success you will grow, and that when you do it will be my turn to learn as well as teach.

* Hopefully, when granting them the Shapechange mutation was blocked, we instead granted them Past Life 5 rather than Past Life 3z
 
I've just had an idea... You know how we were planning to go wild-shape in the warp and how we have the gifts to un-daemon daemons (we can trap one in our aura and than Thalassa can kill it), well what if we did then but instead of treating the resulting daemon as a resource to get magic and the like we Enlightened and Embodied it? We'd have to go for a greater daemon of some kind, but I think this is one way to get another demigod, specifically one to fill the niche of intrigue specialist.
 
I've just had an idea... You know how we were planning to go wild-shape in the warp and how we have the gifts to un-daemon daemons (we can trap one in our aura and than Thalassa can kill it), well what if we did then but instead of treating the resulting daemon as a resource to get magic and the like we Enlightened and Embodied it? We'd have to go for a greater daemon of some kind, but I think this is one way to get another demigod, specifically one to fill the niche of intrigue specialist.

We'd probably need to reverse the order, as we know daemon primarchs can't be enlightened, as they're too Warp aligned.

The issue I see is that most greater daemons are probably very wary indeed of going anywhere near Colchis. After what the Shard of Winter did to Kairos there it would probably seem very ill omened.

In terms of intrigue focused characters, we could try recruiting a Harlequin troop. We may be able to create a device that shields them even more from Slaneesh than Cegorach can manage, allowing them to use more of their true power.
 
We'd probably need to reverse the order, as we know daemon primarchs can't be enlightened, as they're too Warp aligned.

The issue I see is that most greater daemons are probably very wary indeed of going anywhere near Colchis. After what the Shard of Winter did to Kairos there it would probably seem very ill omened.

In terms of intrigue focused characters, we could try recruiting a Harlequin troop. We may be able to create a device that shields them even more from Slaneesh than Cegorach can manage, allowing them to use more of their true power.

We need a Circle Mate, not a troupe. Don't get me wrong I'll take the troupe if that is what's on offer, but what I would prefer is an Eldar who is good at stealth, but not bound to their last living god. You really do not want your spymaster to be beholden to another power by their very soul. We need another demigod, specifically we need another Thalassa, someone we can gain the loyalty of and empower whom we can trust not to have an agenda apart from our own. Yeah the Machine God may or may not be a void infested husk of Auto, but he does not seem to be very active at least, good enough. The Clown on the other hand... the Clown acts all the time.
 
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