Solar Auxilia Officer Quest. A 30k Early Great Crusade quest.
- Thread starter Mayto
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- Sci-Fi
[] Plan: The Wild Goose
-[] Name: Philip "Pip" Bernadotte
-[] [Sex]: Male
-[] [ASTARTES] Kin among the Astartes
-[] [OFFICER] Rose from the common soldiery
-[] [UPBRINGING] Ambitious Nouveau Rich
Benefits of this plan include but are not limited to being able to play as a wisecracking, lostick smoking, butt kicking Frenchman who genuinely cares about the men he leads. The idea was we could take a bit of a Ciaphas Cain approach to chemical warfare.
-[] Name: Philip "Pip" Bernadotte
-[] [Sex]: Male
-[] [ASTARTES] Kin among the Astartes
-[] [OFFICER] Rose from the common soldiery
-[] [UPBRINGING] Ambitious Nouveau Rich
Benefits of this plan include but are not limited to being able to play as a wisecracking, lostick smoking, butt kicking Frenchman who genuinely cares about the men he leads. The idea was we could take a bit of a Ciaphas Cain approach to chemical warfare.
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Sir_Travelsalot
Never wakes up tired.
- Location
- At Home
[ ] Plan: Fraternité ou la Mort
-[ ] [NAME] Rhadegund Roux
-[ ] [SEX] Female
-[ ] [UPBRINGING] Ambitious Nouveau Rich:
-[ ] [ASTARTES] Kin among the Astartes:
-[ ] [OFFICER] Rose from the common soldiery:
With this plan, the character concept I have in mind is of a daughter that was furious about her brother being taken for the Legions, and viewed her family accepting the compensation paid as an insult, running off to join the common soldiery as an act of protest. Only, now she's ended up as an officer, and now her family's trying to get her to advance their own gains again (from her perspective).
EDIT: In case anyone was wondering, the plan name is 'Brotherhood or Death' in French, taken from the famous motto of 'Liberté, Egalité, Fraternité ou la Mort'.
-[ ] [NAME] Rhadegund Roux
-[ ] [SEX] Female
-[ ] [UPBRINGING] Ambitious Nouveau Rich:
-[ ] [ASTARTES] Kin among the Astartes:
-[ ] [OFFICER] Rose from the common soldiery:
With this plan, the character concept I have in mind is of a daughter that was furious about her brother being taken for the Legions, and viewed her family accepting the compensation paid as an insult, running off to join the common soldiery as an act of protest. Only, now she's ended up as an officer, and now her family's trying to get her to advance their own gains again (from her perspective).
EDIT: In case anyone was wondering, the plan name is 'Brotherhood or Death' in French, taken from the famous motto of 'Liberté, Egalité, Fraternité ou la Mort'.
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[]Plan Timothee Chalamet
[] [NAME] Timothee.
[][SEX] Male
[] [UPBRINGING] From the gutter:
[] [ASTARTES] Kin among the Astartes:
[] [OFFICER] You were Groomed for Command:
[] [NAME] Timothee.
[][SEX] Male
[] [UPBRINGING] From the gutter:
[] [ASTARTES] Kin among the Astartes:
[] [OFFICER] You were Groomed for Command:
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- Location
- Dresden, Germany
[X]Struck it Lucky
-[X] [NAME] Jean de Verdyn
Not really a surname so much as a designation of the Hive Sector she stems from
-[X][SEX] Female
The Great Crusade has a tendency towards being a bit of a sausage fest. Having a woman in charge may alleviate this somewhat.
-[X] [UPBRINGING] From the gutter
The Underhive is a cold and lawless place, and also one of the most fascinating parts of Warhammer 30/40k, in my own opinion.
-[X] Astartes
This one is here just because such a family tie might be fun (and if it is an option during Character creation I think it is safe to assume it will come up), and also because it gives a good reason for the character being noticed and given this opportunity.
-[X] [OFFICER] You were Groomed for Command
This ties together with the choice above, and stands in tension with the rest of the app. Allow me to attempt to justify it. It is, I think, reasonable to assume that a woman who had her brother picked out to be an Astartes might herself fall under some scrutiny, and that her own aptitudes might be noticed and granted aid to develope. There is tension, between being groomed for command and significantly poorer then her 'peer'. There's a chip the size of a mountain that's going to be on poor Jean's shoulder, and I think this might be fun to see.
-[X] [NAME] Jean de Verdyn
Not really a surname so much as a designation of the Hive Sector she stems from
-[X][SEX] Female
The Great Crusade has a tendency towards being a bit of a sausage fest. Having a woman in charge may alleviate this somewhat.
-[X] [UPBRINGING] From the gutter
The Underhive is a cold and lawless place, and also one of the most fascinating parts of Warhammer 30/40k, in my own opinion.
-[X] Astartes
This one is here just because such a family tie might be fun (and if it is an option during Character creation I think it is safe to assume it will come up), and also because it gives a good reason for the character being noticed and given this opportunity.
-[X] [OFFICER] You were Groomed for Command
This ties together with the choice above, and stands in tension with the rest of the app. Allow me to attempt to justify it. It is, I think, reasonable to assume that a woman who had her brother picked out to be an Astartes might herself fall under some scrutiny, and that her own aptitudes might be noticed and granted aid to develope. There is tension, between being groomed for command and significantly poorer then her 'peer'. There's a chip the size of a mountain that's going to be on poor Jean's shoulder, and I think this might be fun to see.
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- Location
- alphen aan den rijn
the astartes thing that something apart from the others or that part of the family background?
because i am leaning merchant background myself
because i am leaning merchant background myself
Ah Paris, the boil of France, Surrendertown Supreme, of all the places to hold out, I did not expect Paris to be it. I guess when you go supertech in the dark age, a lot of the stuff that makes Paris a hassle gets negated (although I will not believe you if you tell me they got rid of the urine scented streets -_- )
Joking aside, France being one of the nations to in some form survive everything falling apart, or at least the culture surviving seems rather fitting. Outside of Paris's rather historic pattern of surrender to everything since the Vikings...the French are just one missed wine ration away from mass murder on a general basis
I imagine they did and didn't. They most likely kept the structure and habits of a parliament but as we see with the nobles and highborn, you had a significant amount of feudalism that was necessary through sheer dint of everything being fucky and you needing to humor them lest they organize against you. Plus, it wouldn't be France if there wasn't blood in the streets over what was printed in the thousands of newspapers.
I thought the Maulland Sen Confederacy was the last big fight Big E had, I guess here he decided to not let that sit being evil and chaosy.
Giving the French time to prepare...bold strategy Malcador, let's see if that works out for Him. Say what you will about the French, they do not give up easily.
Ah, recreating WW1 and Krieg later on (fun fact about Krieg, it isn't remotely just notgermans, it was very much a mix of ww1 germans AND french during the trench warfare)
Yeah, fighting on Terra was fucking BRUTAL and there is a reason the Space Marines were made asap, because you *needed* more stable warriors than the Thunder Warriors but faster made than the Custodes, both were too extreme for what Big E needed when it came to facing off against the Horrors of Terra.
The Francian forces here are gonna be both respected and shunned a bit by the new Imperial society. Respected for their determination and shunned because they fought so hard.
Yup, they fought well and showed they might have been able to win if they had fought Big E sooner, but he was able to make it clear that he could wear them down more than they could hold him off, so they stopped fighting before they dragged their people down with them. At least they were able to negotiate a decent deal.
A very rough start but also very urban french too, at least around the 19th century. Paris was NOT a fun city for a long time, took Napoleon the 3rd's revamping of the city to make it a real tourist trap.
This origin although interesting doesn't really feel like it would be a good option as it would just alienate from all but fellow hivers.
So basically this option is a family of gun merchants that are trying to buy, marry, or shoot their way into nobility (as nobility themselves had to do) and due to I'm guessing being one of the younger members, having to take a nasty job instead of the better ones.
This one would be good to take because logistics matters and being able to trade on newly conquered worlds as well as getting better gear for our bodyguards (which we will of course get). All in all, seems like a good start that fits the quest goal of getting our own planet and living like a Rogue Trader on vacation.
Hmmm, being one of the guys to take one look at Big E's forces and go "NOPE!" when the call to arms went out and saying "Told ya so." when the war turned out to end in a surrender...That has some interesting story potential.
buuuuuut the idealist trait is just going to bring out the SV projectionists and moral agenda pushers imo. I'm here to see Mayto showcase the good, the bad, and the ugly of the Great Crusade, not see the SV crowed tilt yet again at the strawmen they have constructed out of the lore of 40k.
Plus, the benefits are political connections and while that can be useful...it's more useful for social and rank climbing, which even in the Imperial Military will be seen as somewhat scummy without being able to back it up. We'll still need to fight and in ugly battles so trying to pull political connections in a war isn't going to get us far.
Ah, a noble from a disgraced house. So we get the bodyguard early, at least one of them, but on the other hand, they'll have their hands full with murderous french rival of doom. Eeeh...seems like it'll be interesting in a story sense but we'll already be fighting the enemy and having to scramble for advancement to a degree. Having to dodge someone playing fuck-fuck games of treachery seems like an added hassle we will not need.
Ah the Third legion, le oof. They never really got a break and through no fault of their own/bad writing. The first case was treachery from Luna, and the second was chaos artifact fuckery.
Still, no surprise that we're seeing a connection considering how many highborn the Francs had even before the war.
Ngl...I can see families that have had children taken for the Space Marines more or less turning themselves into bloodline breeders. Trying to have as many male children as possible and marrying others that have had children go to the space marines in Franc in order to maximize the amount of money they get from the Imperium. It's ugly but...it'd help, especially if they're going to the Third Legion with how hard they went through aspirants.
I love how this option is just 'Congrats! You are compatible with being made into a space marine and so is your bloodline...goodfuckingluckwiththatmyfriend.'
Yuup, one of the biggest issues I often have with people talking about the Great Crusade is the assumption that the Imperium was ALWAYS the top dog.
HAH!
BWAHAHAHA! Even.
The Imperium was a peer power at best until Ullanor and most of the time it was the underdog. Its worst battles were right at the start too for the most part due to the Sol system often being the most concentrated with the best and worst of the tech of the Dark Age of Technology.
Serves a dual purpose, gets an imperial fuckton of troops that are already trained and equipped...and keeps the former enemy soldiers from sitting around feeling salty about being conquered. Best they get some physical therapy laser punching dark horrors beyond humanity's comprehension.
Combat engineers, very important indeed. Not only for using and dealing with the real nastiness out there in the Great Crusade...but combat engineers are often the first ones going in to build the infrastructure for an invasion or FOB.
Even in the dark future, Verdun cannot and will not ever catch a break. I imagine that even in 40k, its region of hive...ick is endlessly fought over by gangers and mutants and the like.
Hrmm, reminds me of the Olympic flame a bit, and I can see how something like this would develop in the age of strife as a local holy place with its own defenders.
Ooh goodie, the geno-mercenaries were Corrupted by Chaos, especially in the middle of battle. This was some sneaky fuckery going down.
Oh really? So this was a permanent posting for that Custodes and those that came after? Still, can definitely see why the deal went down, as sudden Chaos makes former enemies need to team up rather often.
Oooh, ngl, this is now starting to seem like the Slayer Shrine from fanstasy...only for French.
Ah, so this is going to be the group that are given the 'ugly' work, very much the castoffs and the rejects. A motley crew of warriors and soldiers...oh gods we're great crusade French Foreign Legion. HOW DID IT TAKE ME THIS LONG?!
Now hear me out...this is going to be easier to deal with. Example, Ciaphas Cain aka Blackadder. Yes you can start out being a fop of an officer...but that's how Officers are seen in general and once you get in, show you are willing to get dirty and eat the same rations and prove you are indeed a solider rather than just a paper pusher in the wrong place, enlisted will respect. The reason I am saying this is because...
Of one word: Hobart.
Anyone that knows British ww2 history can tell you about Hobart and his endless war against the Cavalry Club of the British army. This was the guy who was trying to pioneer tank warfare and spent YEARS being harassed, pushed aside, and eventually run out of the army because the 'real officers' didn't like tanks and didn't like Hobart or think he was an officer.
This...will...be...a...nightmare.
Especially as three out of the four origins we have as options will lean in hard to already not being liked: Gutter trash, Turncoat, and disgraced Noble. Hells even the merchant soldier option lends itself to this too, as we wouldn't be a 'real' noble officer.
I cannot express enough that this is an option that can and will be a pain to deal with. Better to have to get dirty to earn the respect of our men than to have to deal with endless daggers and sabotage for daring to 'presume'
- Pronouns
- Zack
I don't know any French memes
[]Plan: A Legend Begins Anew
-[] Jeanne d'Arc
-[][SEX] Female
-[] [UPBRINGING] From the gutter
-[] [ASTARTES] Kin among the Astartes
-[] [OFFICER] Rose from the common soldiery
-[] Jeanne d'Arc
-[][SEX] Female
-[] [UPBRINGING] From the gutter
-[] [ASTARTES] Kin among the Astartes
-[] [OFFICER] Rose from the common soldiery
- Location
- Netherlands
Personally, I imagine that the Great Crusade had phases.
There was the early phase. This was when every group with ambitions of expansions would all flood out into the galaxy at the exact same time because the Warp Storms abetted at roughly the same time, allowing for species to finally travel further than one or two systems over.
Imagine twenty to thirty or so years of all species capable of interstellar travel simultaneously rushing out across the warp lanes and meeting each other for control of major warp nexus's and conduits. Just an incomprehensible clusterfuck. And as that is happening, you've got all the fucky wucky horrors of Old Night going around causing trouble.
A galaxywide blind thunderdome.
Then things calmed down a tad and all the powers of the galaxy found their own stable borders, and the next decades brought more conventional war as the Imperium began grinding down existing empires.
[] Plan: The Rose of Versaille
-[] Name: Oscar "François" de Jarjayes
-[] [Sex]: Female
-[] [ASTARTES] Kin among the Astartes
-[] [OFFICER] You were groomed for command
-[] [UPBRINGING] Ambitious Nouveau Rich
Here is an alternative plan. If we are going to have a family member in the Emperor's Children then we are going to look damn good with the only reason we were not picked for the legion being biology. Alternatively, Im good with plan Pip Bernadotte's origin being changed if people are interested.
-[] Name: Oscar "François" de Jarjayes
-[] [Sex]: Female
-[] [ASTARTES] Kin among the Astartes
-[] [OFFICER] You were groomed for command
-[] [UPBRINGING] Ambitious Nouveau Rich
Here is an alternative plan. If we are going to have a family member in the Emperor's Children then we are going to look damn good with the only reason we were not picked for the legion being biology. Alternatively, Im good with plan Pip Bernadotte's origin being changed if people are interested.
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[X]Plan Terra's Shield
-[X] [NAME] Herrand Sallas
-[X][SEX] Male
-[X] [UPBRINGING] Ambitious Nouveau Rich:
-[X] [ASTARTES] Kin among the Astartes:
-[X] [OFFICER] You were Groomed for Command
When the Galaxy fell into ruin, peace became a dream. Even in Franc, the land of your ancestors, your family knew that if one wanted to stand by their beliefs, one had to accept the adage 'Might makes right', that even the most just needs must fight to hold true to their ideals.
And when one must fight, like any other task or skill, one needs the proper tools with which to do so.
Enter, the Famille Sallas.
Your family learned well from the mistakes of others, those too tied to artistic efforts, others too eager for coin and uncaring of standards.
No, your family knew that the way to prosperity was the most dreaded hobgoblin of little minds: consistency, and that is how your family rose to riches. Arms, armaments, armor, to have a Sallas was to have reliability, to be able to trust the weapon in your hand. Starting with the humble autogun, your family's reputation as a purveyor of quality, if humble, arms grew with time until the very Volkite you carry with you is of your lineage's make.
Yet this is not enough. Reputation in arms making is that of the common craftsman in Franc, and the Imperium. Your family will not settle, never concede to that most wretched of fates: mediocrity.
Your family has its sights set on that which many others say should never come to them, something that should be as the old saying goes, 'beyond their stars'...Nobility.
And so, after the conquest of Franc into the wider Imperium of Terra, your family has cast its lots. Scions of both sexes by the dozens to serve as officers and soldiers and quartermasters and pursers, fortunes traded and enough weapons to arm continents provided to the Imperium's efforts. Even to the point of your own brother being selected to serve with the Third legion, lost to your family in the rigors of becoming a transhuman, the Sallas family will serve.
Enter one Herrand Sallas, the man to bring your family to glory, you trained, studied, and fought your way to the position you now hold. Even though others of your family got cushier jobs, or more prestigious posts, it does not matter to you. You will take this motlley band of misfits and troublemakers and forge a weapon to crush any horror or threat that you are sent against.
After all, with a good weapon in hand, so much is possible.
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Logic to follow
Name is french and Occitan/Gascon in particular which is Old High German hari "army" combined with Old High German rant "edge (of a shield)" and meaning "broad, wide, large, tall". respectively.
Ambitious New Rich is the best origin for me as it gives you good logistic and trade connections which is vital for the early style expedition wars of the Great Crusades especially once we get a body guard.
Kin among the Astartes so that we have that connection as well as potentially setting up a chapter world when we get our own planet which has a lot of benefits if leveraged right.
Groomed for command as I mentioned in the review is a lot easier to work with in terms of earning the men's respect vs dealing with the nobility deciding you are not 'good enough' like IRL Percy Hobart.
-[X] [NAME] Herrand Sallas
-[X][SEX] Male
-[X] [UPBRINGING] Ambitious Nouveau Rich:
-[X] [ASTARTES] Kin among the Astartes:
-[X] [OFFICER] You were Groomed for Command
When the Galaxy fell into ruin, peace became a dream. Even in Franc, the land of your ancestors, your family knew that if one wanted to stand by their beliefs, one had to accept the adage 'Might makes right', that even the most just needs must fight to hold true to their ideals.
And when one must fight, like any other task or skill, one needs the proper tools with which to do so.
Enter, the Famille Sallas.
Your family learned well from the mistakes of others, those too tied to artistic efforts, others too eager for coin and uncaring of standards.
No, your family knew that the way to prosperity was the most dreaded hobgoblin of little minds: consistency, and that is how your family rose to riches. Arms, armaments, armor, to have a Sallas was to have reliability, to be able to trust the weapon in your hand. Starting with the humble autogun, your family's reputation as a purveyor of quality, if humble, arms grew with time until the very Volkite you carry with you is of your lineage's make.
Yet this is not enough. Reputation in arms making is that of the common craftsman in Franc, and the Imperium. Your family will not settle, never concede to that most wretched of fates: mediocrity.
Your family has its sights set on that which many others say should never come to them, something that should be as the old saying goes, 'beyond their stars'...Nobility.
And so, after the conquest of Franc into the wider Imperium of Terra, your family has cast its lots. Scions of both sexes by the dozens to serve as officers and soldiers and quartermasters and pursers, fortunes traded and enough weapons to arm continents provided to the Imperium's efforts. Even to the point of your own brother being selected to serve with the Third legion, lost to your family in the rigors of becoming a transhuman, the Sallas family will serve.
Enter one Herrand Sallas, the man to bring your family to glory, you trained, studied, and fought your way to the position you now hold. Even though others of your family got cushier jobs, or more prestigious posts, it does not matter to you. You will take this motlley band of misfits and troublemakers and forge a weapon to crush any horror or threat that you are sent against.
After all, with a good weapon in hand, so much is possible.
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Logic to follow
Name is french and Occitan/Gascon in particular which is Old High German hari "army" combined with Old High German rant "edge (of a shield)" and meaning "broad, wide, large, tall". respectively.
Ambitious New Rich is the best origin for me as it gives you good logistic and trade connections which is vital for the early style expedition wars of the Great Crusades especially once we get a body guard.
Kin among the Astartes so that we have that connection as well as potentially setting up a chapter world when we get our own planet which has a lot of benefits if leveraged right.
Groomed for command as I mentioned in the review is a lot easier to work with in terms of earning the men's respect vs dealing with the nobility deciding you are not 'good enough' like IRL Percy Hobart.
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Sir_Travelsalot
Never wakes up tired.
- Location
- At Home
[X] Plan: Fraternité ou la Mort
-[X] [NAME] Rhadegund Roux
-[X] [SEX] Female
-[X] [UPBRINGING] Ambitious Nouveau Rich:
-[X] [ASTARTES] Kin among the Astartes:
-[X] [OFFICER] Rose from the common soldiery:
With this plan, the character concept I have in mind is of a daughter that was furious about her brother being taken for the Legions, and viewed her family accepting the compensation paid as an insult, running off to join the common soldiery as an act of protest. Only, now she's ended up as an officer, and now her family's trying to get her to advance their own gains again (from her perspective).
-[X] [NAME] Rhadegund Roux
-[X] [SEX] Female
-[X] [UPBRINGING] Ambitious Nouveau Rich:
-[X] [ASTARTES] Kin among the Astartes:
-[X] [OFFICER] Rose from the common soldiery:
With this plan, the character concept I have in mind is of a daughter that was furious about her brother being taken for the Legions, and viewed her family accepting the compensation paid as an insult, running off to join the common soldiery as an act of protest. Only, now she's ended up as an officer, and now her family's trying to get her to advance their own gains again (from her perspective).
[X]Plan Terra's Shield
[X]Plan: A Legend Begins Anew
-[X] Jeanne d'Arc
-[X][SEX] Female
-[X] [UPBRINGING] From the gutter
-[X] [ASTARTES] Kin among the Astartes
-[X] [OFFICER] Rose from the common soldiery
-[X] Jeanne d'Arc
-[X][SEX] Female
-[X] [UPBRINGING] From the gutter
-[X] [ASTARTES] Kin among the Astartes
-[X] [OFFICER] Rose from the common soldiery
Pretty much, you either adapted and grew in the warp storms or were subsumed and even then, could still grow and become something that would spread in time.
And then there's the orks, dark eldar, craftworlders, and more also adding in. As you say, a honking big thunderdome now that the vacuum of power that was made after the Eldar Empire fell is ready to be filled.
Because you had groups like the Black Judges that didn't expand but were content to keep their power, or ones that needed time to expand.
[X]Plan: A Legend Begins Anew
[X] Plan: The Rose of Versaille
-[X] Name: Oscar "François" de Jarjayes
-[X] [Sex]: Female
-[X] [ASTARTES] Kin among the Astartes
-[X] [OFFICER] You were groomed for command
-[X] [UPBRINGING] Ambitious Nouveau Rich
[X] Plan: The Wild Goose
-[X] Name: Philip "Pip" Bernadotte
-[X] [Sex]: Male
-[X] [ASTARTES] Kin among the Astartes
-[X] [OFFICER] Rose from the common soldiery
-[X] [UPBRINGING] Ambitious Nouveau Rich
[X] Plan: The Rose of Versaille
-[X] Name: Oscar "François" de Jarjayes
-[X] [Sex]: Female
-[X] [ASTARTES] Kin among the Astartes
-[X] [OFFICER] You were groomed for command
-[X] [UPBRINGING] Ambitious Nouveau Rich
[X] Plan: The Wild Goose
-[X] Name: Philip "Pip" Bernadotte
-[X] [Sex]: Male
-[X] [ASTARTES] Kin among the Astartes
-[X] [OFFICER] Rose from the common soldiery
-[X] [UPBRINGING] Ambitious Nouveau Rich
Highborn is asking for trouble with the two officer options we have. Either we don't have men that respect us and a rival that is willing to pretzel the rules in order to kill us...or we are the Percy Hobart with that same rival, which means that, unless he gets caught too obviously to ignore, the other officers will do just that: Ignore any and all attempts by the person with issues to remove 'the upstart with delusions of grandeur'.
And I do not trust SV with the republic origin, straight up. Not to mention it really doesn't have much to offer that will actually help in war. It is, at best, being able to call daddy for political favors which in the Great Crusades expeditionary fleets where the fleets were often isolated for years at a time until logistics were set up, is a very dubious advantage.
Sir_Travelsalot
Never wakes up tired.
- Location
- At Home
On the other hand, who today remembers the Cavalry Club as anything but a collective hindrance to Percy Hobart? The best stories are those forged in adversity, and some of the most famous soldiers of the past century were those humble in bearing, regardless of their origins.
- Pronouns
- He/Him
[X]Plan Terra's Shield
The ideals of the republic appeal to me but I don't trust myself to have the mental fortitude to handle the hammering of our psyche and condition. And I like the background Argenten made.
The ideals of the republic appeal to me but I don't trust myself to have the mental fortitude to handle the hammering of our psyche and condition. And I like the background Argenten made.