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LordEdric said:
-[X] Coalition: Name: Glory of the Omnissiah Goals: Build up our Forge world to create wonders
--[X] Invited to Join: Holy Machine Faction, United,Sect of Holy Lighting Inspiration, Society of the Living Alloy,Humanists,Luminen of the Forsaken Calculus
--[X] Not: Seekers of the Omnissiah
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"United" don't seem to have a platform this election.
Could we (Illuminated Mechanicus) get their place in the "Glor of the Omnissiah" coaltion?
KingCrimson1081 said:
[X] Plan: The Living Machine
-[X] Party Name: Society of the Living Alloy
-[X] Coalition: Yes: Humanists, Warriors of the Machine god, Sect of the holy lightning inspiration, Faithfull of the Omnissiah. No: TBD
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Same here with "Faithfull of the Omnissiah", no plan in the tally. Could we (Illuminated Mechanicus) get their yes slot?
 
NSchwerte said:
I trust the already existing law enforcement organisations to be perfectly sufficient for their job and I doubt you don't, seeing as the entire reason to create a law and order party was to repress a rival ideology instead of truly worrying about a state of lawlessness.
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One of the reasons, other is possibility of any party ordering something that might cause System-wide riots. Also the fact that any leading party can introduce new laws without any sort of restrictions, which I will adress next turn, don't worry I plan to use democratic solution here.

Also I'm not the only one worried about this, since my Plan is tied for the first place with Seekers.

NSchwerte said:
Indeed, our analysis show that Selenia has no reported special outliers when it comes to crime, which means that I can only view your efforts as taking away valuable resources from the essential task of safeguarding the system
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We just started colonization efforts, of course such things wouldn't show up on first turn.

As for the other point, the results (good or bad) will come out in the long term. Right now neither of us can see if my efforts are a waste of time and material or something that will save our us in the future.
 
Dezron said:
Also I'm not the only one worried about this, since my Plan is tied for the first place with Seekers
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??? I don't see how the Seekers plan is monofocused on ensuring the population is repressed as much as possible?


Dezron said:
We just started colonization efforts, of course such things wouldn't show up on first turn
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It seems strange that you worry about lawlessness instead of ensuring adequate medical care, housing, education, industry or one of the various bullet points raised at the end of the update, nevermind the essential task of strengthening our military and defending against our enemies.

No, I can say that your efforts to build up a system of repression to stop and repress democratically elected parties is a massive waste of effort
 
NSchwerte said:
??? I don't see how the Seekers plan is monofocused on ensuring the population is repressed as much as possible?
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How I am repressing population?

Point anything in my plan that represses population.

NSchwerte said:
It seems strange that you worry about lawlessness instead of ensuring adequate medical care, housing, education, industry or one of the various bullet points raised at the end of the update, nevermind the essential task of strengthening our military and defending against our enemies.
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I'm not the only party here and almost every other party is tackling atleast one of those issues.

NSchwerte said:
waste of effort
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Becouse trying to prevent issues from rising in the first place is waste of effort compared to being just reactive to currently present issues.

In the same vein I can say that investing into military is waste of time and resources since currently we aren't threatened by anything.
 
Dezron said:
How I am repressing population?

Point anything in my plan that represses population
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You literally talked about how the point of the plan is to make sure the population can be better repressed

Dezron said:
One of the reasons, other is possibility of any party ordering something that might cause System-wide riots
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Dezron said:
In the same vein I can say that investing into military is waste of time and resources since currently we aren't threatened by anything.
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Are you a sabotour of the Dark Mechanicus? It is an explicit issue that our subjects are getting killed by foul Xenos Beasts on Saria and noone cares about the threat!

How are we supposed to trust you on being able to address the tricky internal threats to the Cult when you are not even aware of the external ones?
 
NSchwerte said:
You literally talked about how the point of the plan is to make sure the population can be better repressed
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Because preventing riots is a bad thing? That's repression?

NSchwerte said:
How are we supposed to trust you on being able to address the tricky internal threats to the Cult when you are not even aware of the external ones?
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I'm fucking aware of external threats, I just (badly) pointed out how your reasoning is awful.

Aslo I'm letting military handle external threats. I ain't touching anything political related to military.

NSchwerte said:
foul Xenos Beasts on Saria and noone cares about the threat!
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Would you look at that:
Dezron said:
-[X] 5: Commit part of Skitarii forces to protect Workforce on the Siaria from hostile native elements.
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Dezron said:
Because preventing riots is a bad thing? That's repression?
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Yes? If the entire system is rioting we should be addressing the problem at the source of that instead of sending in the tanks to crush our fellow acylotes of the Machine God.

Dezron said:
I'm fucking aware of external threats, I just (badly) pointed out how your reasoning is awful.

Aslo I'm letting military handle external threats. I ain't touching anything political related to military
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My reasoning, which is that we do not need expanded law enforcement because our law enforcements is already more than sufficient(ooc we know that its even way too opresssive!) Is bad, because I advocate for a stronger military when we are aware of a direct threat against us that must be fought and that makes me hypocritical?

You will have to explain the logic behind that statement to me, as I do not see how it works if you understand the great threat and essential importance of a strengthened military.


If you are part of the governing coalition you will be in charge of the military... our Legions answer to the parliament of Selenia after all.

Dezron said:
Would you look at that:
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I hope no one really harbors the delusion that the 5th plank is more than an empty promise. Servants of the Machine-Gods are dying to Xenos abomninations while you are paranoid about ideological disagreements and an uprising out of nowhere.

KingCrimson1081 said:
I'd like to point out that my plan also has a few well armed survey teams going out to collect samples. Know your enemy and all that good stuff.
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Our fellow Acylotes are dying and you are sending our survey teams? I assure you, there will be more than enough Xenos Beasts to study after we have ensured they cannot threathen our forges again!
 
Dezron said:
Let's agree to disagree and let our plans results speak for our intentions.

May your woes be few and your plans wise.
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I will continue to advocate in favour of ensuring Selenia, its democratic parliament and Venerable Magus Explorator Dei Etul Theta`s legacy continues to be untainted.

Neglecting the Skitarii, our essential protectors will always remain a great folly
 
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Dezron said:
I'll try to handle internal security as much as possible.

I recommend building ammunition factories and underground storage for them. You can never have too much ammo.
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The Steel Cult is always at the forefront of mass producing war equipment and ensuring the defensibility of this critical industry. Unfortunately as of now we lack much of the resources needed to start this project.
We also want to reassure our colleagues of the law enforcement organizations that they have our complete cooperation and that if needed the menial workers under the Steel Union are always available to assist.
 
Polenta said:
We also want to reassure our colleagues of the law enforcement organizations that they have our complete cooperation and that if needed the menial workers under the Steel Union are always available to assist.
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Nah, don't worry, just make sure that we have enough of... everything to win if anything comes to us.
 
I will vote for whatever plan is most likely to beat the no-fun allowed tech-cop people.
Let not some made up nonsense such as "law enforcement" prevent the true children of the omnissiah from fulfilling their holy work of inventing weird gizmos!
(For the glory of the omnissiah of course)
 
Jane Dough said:
I will vote for whatever plan is most likely to beat the no-fun allowed tech-cop people.
Let not some made up nonsense such as "law enforcement" prevent the true children of the omnissiah from fulfilling their holy work of inventing weird gizmos!
(For the glory of the omnissiah of course)
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For the "bend the rules imposed on us to circumvent the stupid bans while keeping bans on 'likely to get us killed' stuff" approach, that would be the party "Illuminated Mechanicus", this turns plan being "Plan: Illuminated beginnings". (This turn focusing more on education & infrastructure than bending the rules)
For the approach described by actions like "Heavily reduce restrictions on various forms of "tech heresy" and xenotech so as to lead to a greater understanding of the Omnissiah's works" that would be the party "Seekers of the Omnissiah" with their plan this turn being "Plan: The Work Continues"
 
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[X] Plan: Lead the Faithful, Enlighten the Ignorant
-[X] Party Name: Faithful of the Omnissiah
-[X] Party Represents: Logi, Artisans, Chaff
-[X] Coalition: Yes: Holy Machine Faction, Society of the Living Alloy, The Steel Cult, Cogs of Justice. No: Any Radicals
-[X] 1: Create further places of learning for the higher classes, we must ensure that the next generation of the higher functions follows the True Path.
-[X] 2: Send out Faithful delegations towards not only the nearby Forgeworlds of our Sector, but also Mars itself. May we make friends and create connections among fellow Orthodox.
-[X] 3: Erect a great Temple-Factory for the Omnissiah-Blessed Las weapons together with the Holy Machine Faction.
-[X] 4: Assist the Cogs of Justice in their duty by assembling ever vigilant watches of the community. May they not be stopped by Mutant nor Xeno!
-[X] 5: Build Hab Complexes around new Temples and Shrines. May the flock live in a Fortress of true Faith!
-[X] Outreach: Gift the Logi sacred mathematical challenges that prove the Holy Synchronity/Duality of the Omnissiah and the Emperor on Terra, convincing them of our Holy Mission.

Apologies for the rather late posting, went for a synergistic approach with aligned Factions.
 
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[X] Plan: The Work Continues
- [X] Party: Seekers of the Omnissiah
- [X] Party represents: Chaff and radical tech priests, especially among the Magi
- [X] Coalition: anyone willing to coalition with us
- [X] 1: Construct housing for the chaff, these housing units shall not be shoddy base things, but truly livable and a place where people will be glad to live
- [X] 2: Massively invest in education both for low level new members of the machine cult and for the Chaff and menials. Try and make sure the new educational programs have a more radical outlook, or failing that at least not a traditional one
- [X] 3: Construct infrastructure across the system, both for extracting resources and for more civilian applications. Make sure that the chaff and menials are treated well in the work
- [X] 4: Either eliminate or reduce laws against abhumans and mutants. Genetic variance is to be studied not purged
- [X] 5: Heavily reduce restrictions on various forms of "tech heresy" and xenotech so as to lead to a greater understanding of the Omnissiah's works
- [X] 6: Continue to push for greater social mobility, making it easier for low level mechanicus to rise and for the chaff and menials to become members of the cult
- [X] Outreach: Our more learned members shall work to give sermons and lectures to teach the chaff and low level cult members. This shall both promote us as a party seeking to give education, and the "classes" will both have useful, practical aid and advice, pushes and advocacy of more radical thinking, and heavy reminders to vote for us
 
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