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Attempting to Fulfil The Plan: ISOT Edition

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[X]Amber Garza
[X]Approve Widespread Rebar Use

My main worry with Butler is that he's going to push our agricultural policy too hard and too fast when we've already got all our state capacity tied up in preparing for war with the Air Force. Trying to crash modernize the countryside could fuck up our food security and piss off our conscription base right when we need the peasants quiet and compliant.

I think that he might actually be better off as a deputy? So we can still get his experience in a high level leadership position, and let him apply genuine uptime professional knowledge within a controlled environment/advise his superior, but not let him be the final decision maker so he doesn't accidentally start a bunch of peasant uprisings over land enclosure or whatever right when we're already having to worry about conscription riots.
 
In term of efficiency Butler or Kim are I think the best options (the key obstacle to good yields is fertilizer, not mechanization); but Amber is a maoist.
[X]Amber Garza
[X]Approve Widespread Rebar Use
 
[X]Amber Garza
[X]Approve Widespread Rebar Use

I'll go with Garza over Butler for the political support. We took some hits here and limiting the losses going into the upcoming war in case the war goes badly in some way seems reasonable.

We have one more turn before the war starts, our trade incomes just tanked due to the civil war in Egypt and we are still training conscripts at a very low rate. We could still pull off a smashing victory here, but I would rather not burn an extra 10 support if we don't need to lose that cushion.

I could be convinced that the short term gains in agriculture are worth that though (especially that extra dice!), if someone wants to make that case with math and we have a solid shot at leveraging those increases into more support on turns 17 and 18.
 
[X]Benjamin Kim
[X]Approve Widespread Rebar Use
Will switch to Amber if noone votes Benjamin and Cornelius is still in the lead.

agree wholeheartedly with this post, but also following that logic, i prefer Benjamin, he has experience in the field, has knowledge about high and low tech agriculture, most critically of all, he keeps that fertillizer focus. That focus balanced by above understandings will catch us up on agriculture without the risk.
Lastly, Amber's +5 is nice, but I think the real mechanical thing we miss out on by snubbing Cornelius, is his extra dice.
Crazycryodude said:
[X]Amber Garza
[X]Approve Widespread Rebar Use

My main worry with Butler is that he's going to push our agricultural policy too hard and too fast when we've already got all our state capacity tied up in preparing for war with the Air Force. Trying to crash modernize the countryside could fuck up our food security and piss off our conscription base right when we need the peasants quiet and compliant.

I think that he might actually be better off as a deputy? So we can still get his experience in a high level leadership position, and let him apply genuine uptime professional knowledge within a controlled environment/advise his superior, but not let him be the final decision maker so he doesn't accidentally start a bunch of peasant uprisings over land enclosure or whatever right when we're already having to worry about conscription riots.
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is there any reason at all stockpiling steel would be better than using rebar?
 
Magus Zanin said:
[X]Amber Garza
[X]Approve Widespread Rebar Use

I'll go with Garza over Butler for the political support. We took some hits here and limiting the losses going into the upcoming war in case the war goes badly in some way seems reasonable.

We have one more turn before the war starts, our trade incomes just tanked due to the civil war in Egypt and we are still training conscripts at a very low rate. We could still pull off a smashing victory here, but I would rather not burn an extra 10 support if we don't need to lose that cushion.

I could be convinced that the short term gains in agriculture are worth that though (especially that extra dice!), if someone wants to make that case with math and we have a solid shot at leveraging those increases into more support on turns 17 and 18.
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I mean we're probably not using a huge amount of our military against the Zeroth Reich since they don't exactly have the manpower for slave catchers, an expansive pirate fleet and a large standing army. So things being slowish on the military side is fine. The loss of trade income is not that bad and distinctly temporary since Egypt Crushed the rebellion before it gained steam, and we have multiple projects that are incredibly close to being finished that will make up for much of the support Butler will cost us.
 
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Crazycryodude said:
[X]Amber Garza
[X]Approve Widespread Rebar Use

My main worry with Butler is that he's going to push our agricultural policy too hard and too fast when we've already got all our state capacity tied up in preparing for war with the Air Force. Trying to crash modernize the countryside could fuck up our food security and piss off our conscription base right when we need the peasants quiet and compliant.

I think that he might actually be better off as a deputy? So we can still get his experience in a high level leadership position, and let him apply genuine uptime professional knowledge within a controlled environment/advise his superior, but not let him be the final decision maker so he doesn't accidentally start a bunch of peasant uprisings over land enclosure or whatever right when we're already having to worry about conscription riots.
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I agree, the combination of wanting to push farther than we'll be able to afford and not being political reliable is likely to be quite explosive.

Considering his age, I think him having a role in the ministry as a source of expertise and knowledge transfer is probably the best we can offer him.

[X]Amber Garza
[X]Approve Widespread Rebar Use
 
[X]Cornelius Butler
[X]Approve Widespread Rebar Use

I want Cornelius specifically because I'm hoping he'll die / get removed politically after pushing too hard, and then we can get someone with a more comprehensive viewpoint who will give us a variety of projects - fertilizers, pesticides, and mechanization, yes, but also stuff like:

Distributed water infrastructure (Multiple Stages): Check dams, roof water catchment and storage tanks, swales and contour trenches, catchment ponds, and a variety of other measures to help store water high in the watershed, make it readily available to even the most remote of rural villages, and reduce erosion and sediment build up at our dams downstream. Inspiration.

Coppicing and Pollarding (Multiple Stages): Sending teachers to help teach rural villages how to set up, expand, and improve coppice and pollard systems to help provide rural wood for building and fuel.

Composting and Biochar (Multiple Stages): Send out teachers to help rural villages set up, expand, and improve compost and biochar systems for soil improvement. Inspiration

Perennial Food Systems (Multiple Stages): Send out teachers and seeds to help villages set up, expand, and improve perennial food systems in places less suitable for field agriculture.

Which none of the people on offer seems likely to offer, so, we'll need to get someone else in for them - and if we're gonna do that, we might as well pick the person who's got a built in death timer and is likely to make themselves unpopular and easily removed from their position if they outlive their usefulness. XD
 
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