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[X] Type-7 Regenerative (Prototype)

As much as I would like to not take anything here and keep the cost down, I'll vote for this to avoid getting a second Experimental component on the same ship.

I am seriously considering making the first ship of the next era a dedicated testbed sacrifice class. I'd really like to make one of these big ships relatively affordable to make, and the best way to do that while keeping quality is to get all of the prototyping out of the way first on other ships. Even the advanced for it's time Excelsior wasn't the first use for a few of its major systems IIRC.
 
MS-21H 'Hawke' said:
It's less the shift towards pacifistic actions, and using that as a flaw, and more the maliciousness that many attribute to the 'Peaceniks'/'Peace at any Pricers'.
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Oh you meant people antagonizing the people who want peace, yeah I agree, it might be a flaw; but like its understandable that they don't want to be violent.
 
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[X] Type-7 Regenerative (Prototype)

Here's my understanding: we're deciding between shielding we know will work as expected in battle v shielding that should be good in a protracted battle v shielding that should be good against burst damage + will work v might have an issue v probably have an issue
 
MS-21H 'Hawke' said:
It's less the shift towards pacifistic actions, and using that as a flaw, and more the maliciousness that many attribute to the 'Peaceniks'/'Peace at any Pricers'.
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I'll admit I'm gking though being a bit extra critical about it do to a clip of Bashir's "surrender to the Dominion" phase because my brain kept coming up with how surrendering wouldn't save nearly as many lives as he claims.
 
You know what, if this is the last one before the ENT quest, let's just do it and be legends.

[X] Type-8 Conformal (Prototype) (Experimental)
 
Silversun17 said:
I'll admit I'm gking though being a bit extra critical about it do to a clip of Bashir's "surrender to the Dominion" phase because my brain kept coming up with how surrendering wouldn't save nearly as many lives as he claims.
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I think that might have been intentional, though I don't have a big of a frame of reference as most others when it comes to DS9.

On one hand, it makes sense. From what I've seen and what I've read. I can absolutely see where the Augments are coming from. By all means, it seems the Federation CAN'T win at certain points during the war.

But it's all in the title of the Episode: 'Statistical Probabilities'.

We're being asked to accept strategic probabilities and extrapolations from those probabilities that mean our heroes are going to fail and likely die, if they don't surrender, which is worse in some eyes.

Bashir may not know it, but he's betting on the mercy of the Dominion, which we know they don't have.

There's also the fact that this is the Federation we're talking about, if anyone call pull a miracle(literal in this case) out of their navigational deflector, it's THEM.
 
MS-21H 'Hawke' said:
Bashir may not know it, but he's betting on the mercy of the Dominion, which we know they don't have.
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I wasn't even looking at the Dominion's tactics and culture. I was thinking of the numbers. The Dominion just flat out didn't have the numbers to properly occupy 900 billion people. They would be resorting to population culls and using warships to glass cities as retaliation for minor acts of rebellion within a year just from simple lack of enough infantry trained for civilian pacficiation.
 
Silversun17 said:
I wasn't even looking at the Dominion's tactics and culture. I was thinking of the numbers. The Dominion just flat out didn't have the numbers to properly occupy 900 billion people. They would be resorting to population culls and using warships to glass cities as retaliation for minor acts of rebellion within a year just from simple lack of enough infantry trained for civilian pacficiation.
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Numbers they don't really know. It's an example of statistics without adequate data.
 
... what role does the Miranda even occupy?
What kind of ship would we have to make to replace it?
 
Enthusiast#117 said:
... what role does the Miranda even occupy?
What kind of ship would we have to make to replace it?
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Something super cheap and extremely easy to mass produce, while also being a semi-decent ship. Something with no prototype or experimental components as well, which goes against SDB policy, so I feel like it might be extremely hard for us to make it.
 
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