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BigBadBob7070 said:
Did you add this in on purpose? If you just want to talk I don't know why you're burning our favor to bring them to Vannaheim just for diplomacy. Unless the plan is to use them to keep Reximus honest so he's less likely to shoot us.
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Nah, it was a copy paste error.

And there is no need to give the 10th company a Battle Barge, if you check their spoiler you will see they have 2 Strike cruisers assigned to them.

They are built to be over-strength and able to move that force around.
 
Valerian said:
Nah, it was a copy paste error.

And there is no need to give the 10th company a Battle Barge, if you check their spoiler you will see they have 2 Strike cruisers assigned to them.

They are built to be over-strength and able to move that force around.
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Actually, if you look at the winning plan for last turn:

Oshha said:
-[X] Sverd: 1st, 2nd, Jannis Hopeson, the 1st is loaned one of the 10ths Strike Cruisers and 3 escorts
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The 1st was loaned one of their Strike Cruisers so 10th only have the 1 with a few extra escorts since they're still preoccupied with the newly-minted heretics.
 
[X] Plan Let's end it
-[X] Free Actions
--[X] Have Master of the Recruits and Reconnaissance Clin Boltson contact the Ecclesiarchy on Vanaheim and ask for their support in our deposition of the governor, as well as providing a calming voice while a new sector government is formed. He is authorized to accept or decline to exchange them a favor for their support in case he needs it. (basically like the forge world odin last turn, we get to vote if we give them a favor or not, dependent on how much of a favor they ask)
--[X] Have Chief Librarian Steffen Strangeson Look into Psyker Recruitment and Training solutions
--[X] Have Chapter Master Torvald Thunderson choose some of the best administrators in the ranks of the Avenging storm to join him and set up a temporary government for sector asgarids and especially sub-sector Odin and hive world Vanaheim. While making calls and sending messages to all planets in the sub-sectors to follow the Avenging storms lead in these dark times.
-[X] Deployment
--[X] Defence of Ragna (3rd Company, 8th company using Battle barge Void Thunderer)
--[X] Home Guard (5th company using 8th comapny strike cruiser to defend our homeworld and sector with battlefleet Asgardia following us)
--[X] Battlefleet Asgardia (use the major favor to call upon the battlefleet against the Lord Sector Sigurdr Reximus and his forces)
--[X] Reximus Rising (Torvald and his Honour Guard, Battle Barge Might of Storms, Battle Barge Unyielding Defiance, Battle Barge Ardent Storm, 4th company, 7th Company, 9th Company, 10th Company) objective is to arrest the lord sector Sigurdr Reximus under charges of treason, cowardice and incompetence in the handling of his duties as sector lord, take over control of the lord sector's position in preparation to either hand it over to another highborn or place one of our own and take control both sub sector Odin or at least the hive planet Vanaheim, battlefleet Odin and all former imperial forces present. Diplomacy is to be tried with all former imperial forces doing our damndest to try and convince who we can among the Vanaheim Valkyries, the PDF, and Battlefleet Odin to stay out of the fight, specially Battlefleet Odin, and to bring into the fold under the control of the Avenging Storm . However if unsuccessful then decapitation strikes are advised to try and minimize casualties and the lord sector must be arrested and then executed.
-[X] Production
--[X] 1 Production for 5 Heavy Weapons
--[X] 24 Production for 12 rhino
--[X] 1 Strike Cruiser (Major Favor)
-[X] Chapter Organisation
--[X] Assign "Monsterslayer" to Chapter Champion Sig Stormson
--[X] Distribute as much of the newly constructed Rhinos to the forces sent against the lord sector


Changed it a bit and used one of our free actions to help prepare our takeover dk how much it helps hope @Oshha when he wakes up comments on it. if people have suggestions to change the wording and the free actions I am up for it, like for example what @Lux27Rub suggestion of involving the Ecclesiarchy would it work if I mention it only in the action blurb or should I put it as another free action Oshha?

I am not changing the core of the plan since a lot of people voted for it because of that.

Also While we will have to take care of a lot of fires after the fact will it be that bad? Like wouldn't the different planet governors get the message after we dealt with lord sector Raximus our biggest rival, that you shouldn't mess with the local space marines chapter overtly and pledge loyalty to us?

Of the six sub-sectors, siff is under the control of the sisters of Battle, while Thor and Freya are under our control, so most of the problems will be taking place in the Odin, Buldur and loki sub-sectors. Buldur we already have our forces there that dealt with the jarl of Sverd and his pdf decisively and are now dealing with the situation in malmur, this can be taken as a message by the governors there and they will be wary of messing with us with a fleet and supposedly 2 space marine companies in the region, and if there is a problem I would think they would mostly be low level threat problem like what's happening with the warlords in blad something that can be taken care of with half of a company. the Odin subsector will be a problem since it's where the sector lord had consolidated his power but by that same token he would centralised most of it on Vanaheim, also it's where we have concentrated the greatest amount of ships and troops since we dealt with Galaborn, while some planet governors may be loyalists won't the rest be cowed by our show of force? as for Loki, unfortunately, it's mostly unknown since we didn't have any missions there as of yet and weren't able to send a diplomatic mission there beforehand.
 
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[x] Plan No fighting in the War Room!

I feel like people are more interested in taking over the Sector for themselves than trying to actually set things up to protect it.
 
[X] Plan Let's end it
-[X] Free Actions
--[X] Have Master of the Apothecarion Bruce Boltson look into different worlds to establish as recruiting worlds for the chapter.
--[X] Have Chief Librarian Steffen Strangeson Look into Psyker Recruitment and Training solutions
--[X] Have Torvold choose some of the best administrators in the ranks of the Avenging storm to join him and set up a temporary government for sector asgarids and especially sub-sector Odin and hive world Vanaheim. While making calls and sending messages to all planets in the sub-sectors to follow the Avenging storms lead in these dark times.
-[X] Deployment
--[X] Defence of Ragna (3rd Company, 8th company using Battle barge Void Thunderer)
--[X] Home Guard (5th company using 8th comapny strike cruiser to defend our homeworld and sector with battlefleet Asgardia following us)
--[X] Battlefleet Asgardia (use the major favor to call upon the battlefleet against the Lord Sector Sigurdr Reximus and his forces)
--[X] Reximus Rising (Torvald and his Honour Guard, Battle Barge Might of Storms, Battle Barge Unyielding Defiance, Battle Barge Ardent Storm, 4th company, 7th Company, 9th Company, 10th Company) objective is to arrest the lord sector Sigurdr Reximus under charges of treason, cowardice and incompetence in the handling of his duties as sector lord, take over control of the lord sector's position in preparation to either hand it over to another highborn or place one of our own and take control both sub sector Odin or at least the hive planet Vanaheim, battlefleet Odin and all former imperial forces present. Diplomacy is to be tried with all former imperial forces doing our damndest to try and convince who we can among the Vanaheim Valkyries, the PDF, and Battlefleet Odin to stay out of the fight, specially Battlefleet Odin, and to bring into the fold under the control of the Avenging Storm . However if unsuccessful then decapitation strikes are advised to try and minimize casualties and the lord sector must be arrested and then executed.
-[X] Production
--[X] 1 Production for 5 Heavy Weapons
--[X] 24 Production for 12 rhino
--[X] 1 Strike Cruiser (Major Favor)
-[X] Chapter Organisation
--[X] Assign "Monsterslayer" to Chapter Champion Sig Stormson
--[X] Distribute as much of the newly constructed Rhinos to the forces sent against the lord sector
 
Ragingbear21 said:
how much it helps hope @Oshha when he wakes up comments on it.
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It is something that will help, but it is more running damage control and pre-emptive preparation.
Ragingbear21 said:
it, like for example what @Lux27Rub suggestion of involving the Ecclesiarchy would it work if I mention it only in the action blurb or should I put it as another free action Oshha?
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Either works, but giving its own full action would be more effective/powerful.
 
Oshha said:
Either works, but giving its own full action would be more effective/powerful.
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does this work?

--[] Have Master of the Recruits and Reconnaissance Clin Boltson contact the Ecclesiarchy on Vanaheim and ask for their support in our deposition of the governor, as well as providing a calming voice while a new sector government is formed. He is authorized to accept or decline to exchange them a favor for their support in case he needs it. (basically like the forge world odin last turn, we get to vote if we give them a favor or not, dependent on how much of a favor they ask)
 
Ragingbear21 said:
does this work?

--[] Have Master of the Recruits and Reconnaissance Clin Boltson contact the Ecclesiarchy on Vanaheim and ask for their support in our deposition of the governor, as well as providing a calming voice while a new sector government is formed. He is authorized to accept or decline to exchange them a favor for their support in case he needs it. (basically like the forge world odin last turn, we get to vote if we give them a favor or not, dependent on how much of a favor they ask)
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Yes.
 
Adhoc vote count started by thefoolswriter on Jun 24, 2023 at 11:33 AM, finished with 100 posts and 27 votes.
  • [X] Plan Let's end it
    -[X] Free Actions
    --[X] Have Master of the Recruits and Reconnaissance Clin Boltson contact the Ecclesiarchy on Vanaheim and ask for their support in our deposition of the governor, as well as providing a calming voice while a new sector government is formed. He is authorized to accept or decline to exchange them a favor for their support in case he needs it. (basically like the forge world odin last turn, we get to vote if we give them a favor or not, dependent on how much of a favor they ask)
    --[X] Have Chief Librarian Steffen Strangeson Look into Psyker Recruitment and Training solutions
    --[X] Have Chapter Master Torvald Thunderson choose some of the best administrators in the ranks of the Avenging storm to join him and set up a temporary government for sector asgarids and especially sub-sector Odin and hive world Vanaheim. While making calls and sending messages to all planets in the sub-sectors to follow the Avenging storms lead in these dark times.
    -[X] Deployment
    --[X] Defence of Ragna (3rd Company, 8th company using Battle barge Void Thunderer)
    --[X] Home Guard (5th company using 8th comapny strike cruiser to defend our homeworld and sector with battlefleet Asgardia following us)
    --[X] Battlefleet Asgardia (use the major favor to call upon the battlefleet against the Lord Sector Sigurdr Reximus and his forces)
    --[X] Reximus Rising (Torvald and his Honour Guard, Battle Barge Might of Storms, Battle Barge Unyielding Defiance, Battle Barge Ardent Storm, 4th company, 7th Company, 9th Company, 10th Company) objective is to arrest the lord sector Sigurdr Reximus under charges of treason, cowardice and incompetence in the handling of his duties as sector lord, take over control of the lord sector's position in preparation to either hand it over to another highborn or place one of our own and take control both sub sector Odin or at least the hive planet Vanaheim, battlefleet Odin and all former imperial forces present. Diplomacy is to be tried with all former imperial forces doing our damndest to try and convince who we can among the Vanaheim Valkyries, the PDF, and Battlefleet Odin to stay out of the fight, specially Battlefleet Odin, and to bring into the fold under the control of the Avenging Storm . However if unsuccessful then decapitation strikes are advised to try and minimize casualties and the lord sector must be arrested and then executed.
    -[X] Production
    --[X] 1 Production for 5 Heavy Weapons
    --[X] 24 Production for 12 rhino
    --[X] 1 Strike Cruiser (Major Favor)
    -[X] Chapter Organisation
    --[X] Assign "Monsterslayer" to Chapter Champion Sig Stormson
    --[X] Distribute as much of the newly constructed Rhinos to the forces sent against the lord sector
    [x] Plan No fighting in the War Room!
    --[X] Have Master of the Apothecarion Bruce Boltson look into different worlds to establish as recruiting worlds for the chapter.
    --[X] Have Chief Librarian Steffen Strangeson Look into Psyker Recruitment and Training solutions
    --[X] Have master of Sanctity Jannis Hopeson cleanse any remaining chaos taint on Malmur and establish a loyal government after the fight is over.
    -[X] Deployment
    --[X] Defence of Ragna (3rd Company, 8th company using Battle barge Void Thunderer, Battle Barge Unyielding Defiance)
    --[X] Home Guard (5th company using 8th company strike cruiser to defend our homeworld and sector with battlefleet Asgardia following us)
    --[X] Reximus Rising (Torvald and his Honour Guard, Battle Barge Might of Storms)
    ---[x] Objective: Open Diplomatic negotiations
    ----[x] Main points: Assert Chapter Independence, set up channels of communication, discuss threats to the Sector, discuss ways the Chapter can support increasing Sector resilience in the long term, discuss plans for retaking lost Sub-sectors.
    -----[x] If the Sector Lord ignores our request for audience, attempt to do the same thing with the leadership of the assembled Imperial Guard and Battlefleet instead.
    --[x]Sentinels of Sif (7th Company)
    ---[x] Discuss similar diplomatic concerns as with the Sector Lord.
    --[x] Forge World Loki (9th Company)
    --[x] Black Market of Kjede (4th company)
    --[x] Patrolling Odin Sub-Sector (10th Company and Battle Barge Ardent Storm)
    -[X] Production
    --[X] 1 Production for 5 Heavy Weapons
    --[X] 24 Production for 12 rhino
    --[X] 1 Strike Cruiser (Major Favor)
    -[X] Chapter Organisation
    --[X] Assign "Monsterslayer" to Chapter Champion Sig Stormson
    [X] Plan Gunboat Diplomacy
    -[X] Free Actions
    --[X] Have Master of the Apothecarion Bruce Boltson look into different worlds to establish as recruiting worlds for the chapter.
    --[X] Have Chief Librarian Steffen Strangeson Look into Psyker Recruitment and Training solutions
    --[X] Have master of Sanctity Jannis Hopeson cleanse any remaining chaos taint on Malmur and establish a loyal government after the fight is over.
    -[X] Deployment
    --[X] Oligarch Warlords (Greater Half of 10th Company)
    --[X] Defence of Ragna (3rd Company, 8th company using Battle barge Void Thunderer, Lesser half of 10th Company)
    --[X] Home Guard (5th company using 8th company strike cruiser to defend our homeworld and sector with battlefleet Asgardia following us)
    --[X] Battlefleet Asgardia (use the major favor to call upon the battlefleet against the Lord Sector Sigurdr Reximus and his forces)
    --[X] Reximus Rising (Torvald and his Honour Guard, Battle Barge Might of Storms, Battle Barge Unyielding Defiance, Battle Barge Ardent Storm, 4th company, 7th Company, 9th Company)
    ---[X] First we will attempt to speak and negotiate with Reximus, our demands being that neither he, nor any successor of his, shall ever attempt to subjugate or attack the Storm Avengers, Battlefleet Asgardia, the Forge Worlds Odin, Loki, Thor or any future Forge World of the Sector or The Order of the Sacred Storm. He will stay in his lane as Lord Sector as he did under Imperial Rule. He will return the ships he suborned from Battlefleet Asgardia immediately, though he may keep the new ships he commissioned from Forge World Odin for his Battle Fleet Odin and may in the future commission further ships from them or other Forge Worlds without issue from us. He will also, lastly, cease his attempts to mar our reputation within the Sector and turning worlds against us.
    ----[X] Our Concessions: We will also never attempt to subjugate nor attack said factions nor his to our own authority, we will continue to do our Duty to the Sector just as we have been for the past 8 millennia, and we won't kill him here and now.
    ----[X] We will both sign multiple copies of this treaty, triplicate for each faction listed to be delivered to them for their own safe keeping and to make sure the whole Sector is well aware of the terms of it
    —--[X] If he refuses our terms we will invade Vanaheim to end him, doing our damndest to try and convince who we can among the Vanaheim Valkyries, the PDF, and Battlefleet Odin to stay out of the fight for we have no wish to bring harm upon them, only their greedy and arrogant master who would try to make slaves of us, and for those who don't to deal as few casualties and as little damage as possible.
    -[X] Production
    —[X] 5 Rhinos (10 Production)
    —[X] Stormraven (10 Production)
    —[X] 5 Specialist weapons (1 Production)
    —[X] 10 Power Weapons (2 Production)
    —[X] 10 Heavy Weapons (2 Production)
    —[X] 1 Strike Cruiser (Major Favor)
    [X] Plan Soft Words and Big Sticks
    -[X] Free Actions
    --[X] Have Master of the Apothecarion Bruce Boltson look into different worlds to establish as recruiting worlds for the chapter.
    --[X] Have Chief Librarian Steffen Strangeson Look into Psyker Recruitment and Training solutions
    --[X] Have master of Sanctity Jannis Hopeson cleanse any remaining chaos taint on Malmur and establish a loyal government after the fight is over.
    -[X] Deployment
    --[X] Defence of Ragna (3rd, 4th, 8th, Ardent Storm, Void Thunderer, Might of Storms)
    --[X] Home Guard (5th Company)
    --[X] The Titan War (10th Company) Are to undertake sabotage and assassination missions to prevent any one side from gaining the upper hand.
    --[X] Patrolling (Asgardia Sector) (9th Company)
    --[X] Diplomatic Meeting (Torvald and his Honour Guard, 7th Company, Unyielding Defiance, Sentinel of Asgardia) Sail to Vanaheim and request a meeting with Lord Sector Reximus to discuss concerns of the Titan War and the subsequent invasion of Ragna. If meeting is refused, redirect to join defence of Ragna.
    -[X] Production
    --[X] 7 Rhinos (14 Points)
    --[X] 3 Whirlwinds (9 Points)
    --[X] 4 Bikes (2 Points)
    [X] Plan Let's end it
    -[X] Free Actions
    --[X] Have Master of the Apothecarion Bruce Boltson look into different worlds to establish as recruiting worlds for the chapter.
    --[X] Have Chief Librarian Steffen Strangeson Look into Psyker Recruitment and Training solutions
    --[X] Have Torvold choose some of the best administrators in the ranks of the Avenging storm to join him and set up a temporary government for sector asgarids and especially sub-sector Odin and hive world Vanaheim. While making calls and sending messages to all planets in the sub-sectors to follow the Avenging storms lead in these dark times.
    -[X] Deployment
    --[X] Defence of Ragna (3rd Company, 8th company using Battle barge Void Thunderer)
    --[X] Home Guard (5th company using 8th comapny strike cruiser to defend our homeworld and sector with battlefleet Asgardia following us)
    --[X] Battlefleet Asgardia (use the major favor to call upon the battlefleet against the Lord Sector Sigurdr Reximus and his forces)
    --[X] Reximus Rising (Torvald and his Honour Guard, Battle Barge Might of Storms, Battle Barge Unyielding Defiance, Battle Barge Ardent Storm, 4th company, 7th Company, 9th Company, 10th Company) objective is to arrest the lord sector Sigurdr Reximus under charges of treason, cowardice and incompetence in the handling of his duties as sector lord, take over control of the lord sector's position in preparation to either hand it over to another highborn or place one of our own and take control both sub sector Odin or at least the hive planet Vanaheim, battlefleet Odin and all former imperial forces present. Diplomacy is to be tried with all former imperial forces doing our damndest to try and convince who we can among the Vanaheim Valkyries, the PDF, and Battlefleet Odin to stay out of the fight, specially Battlefleet Odin, and to bring into the fold under the control of the Avenging Storm . However if unsuccessful then decapitation strikes are advised to try and minimize casualties and the lord sector must be arrested and then executed.
    -[X] Production
    --[X] 1 Production for 5 Heavy Weapons
    --[X] 24 Production for 12 rhino
    --[X] 1 Strike Cruiser (Major Favor)
    -[X] Chapter Organisation
    --[X] Assign "Monsterslayer" to Chapter Champion Sig Stormson
    --[X] Distribute as much of the newly constructed Rhinos to the forces sent against the lord sector
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[X] Plan Let's end it


Sector lord hates us last we saw, he is spreading lies and slander about us, I have wanted to introduce him to our bolters for awhile now. So let's do it
 
Just an FYI, In Gunboat Diplomacy I have added another concession guaranteeing that if he accepts we'll come to his aid if seriously threatened by Xenos or Chaos and I am considering allowing him to keep the Overlord battlecruiser so the deal could be more palatable for him thus more likely to accept instead of leaving him with hardly much. But I'm not willing to commit to that last part just yet.

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thatguy99998 said:
[X] Plan Let's end it


Sector lord hates us last we saw, he is spreading lies and slander about us, I have wanted to introduce him to our bolters for awhile now. So let's do it
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I do like everyone else here, but we haven't really took steps towards how to handle the fallout and seem to just be winging it. The GM already told us that if we just go ahead and do it without taking steps to ensure a smooth transition there's going to be more fires just when the Titan War seems like it's wrapping up unless the Steel Hunger makes a surprise comeback.
 
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BigBadBob7070 said:
I do like everyone else here, but we haven't really took steps towards how to handle the fallout and seem to just be winging it. The GM already told us that if we just go ahead and do it without taking steps to ensure a smooth transition there's going to be more fires just when the Titan War seems like it's wrapping up unless the Steel Hunger makes a surprise comeback.
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I understand your concern, but I'd rather have open flames than a slow poison to deal with. Especially since we have been having poor luck with rolls, and diplomacy and intrigue is what Reximus was trained for and experienced in.
 
Ternasta said:
I understand your concern, but I'd rather have open flames than a slow poison to deal with. Especially since we have been having poor luck with rolls, and diplomacy and intrigue is what Reximus was trained for and experienced in.
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I'd say our luck has been mixed. We got bad rolls at Gallaborn, Gunnerkrieg and Sverd, but we've got some pretty good rolls elsewhere like Jotunheim, Akar and even during our negotiations with FW Odin in order to get the deal for them to stay neutral.

And I'm not sure I agree with your sentiment since we can deal with him down the line or even just wait for him to die from natural causes. And we can still do stuff to counteract his efforts, he's been having success b/c we've done hardly much for diplomacy as much as it's been his own skills. And trust me, we do NOT want there to be several brushfires when the Titan War ends otherwise we're going to see entire worlds fall. I'd much rather deal with with this guy playing fuck-fuck games for a few decades instead of having the entire sector get plunged into Chaos b/c of a personal grudge.

Also, you say you don't want to take risk b/c of some bad rolls, when the whole thing with making Battlefleet Odin and the Vannaheim Valkyries stand down without a fight is going to entirely come down to luck and we've already had experience with people being too fanatically loyal to stand down against overwhelming odds. And even if we can crush them, there likely will be casualties which we can't really tolerate when shit is just about to hit the fan. The GM has been giving us some pretty big hints that this is going to cause problems if we just barge in swinging our dicks without any prep work. Arguably more than if we just tolerated the bastard.
 
BigBadBob7070 said:
Also, you say you don't want to take risk b/c of some bad rolls, when the whole thing with making Battlefleet Odin and the Vannaheim Valkyries stand down without a fight is going to entirely come down to luck and we've already had experience with people being too fanatically loyal to stand down against overwhelming odds. And even if we can crush them, there likely will be casualties which we can't really tolerate when shit is just about to hit the fan. The GM has been giving us some pretty big hints that this is going to cause problems if we just barge in swinging our dicks without any prep work. Arguably more than if we just tolerated the bastard.
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Ok, not sure how you got that from my post. I said I don't want to risk playing to his strong suits, rather than ours. Please pay attention. And I'll grant you I was wrong about our rolls, they are mixed rather than poor, but that does not reassure me.
As to the rest, it's clear we are in complete disagreement about this so I'll just leave it at that.
 
The vote is pretty close and it involves a fairly major event in the quest so I'm not going to close the vote tonight. I'll let it run until sometime tomorrow.
 
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