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Kingdom of God: A Quest of Holy Revolution

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[X] We must spread the word of God to the world with vigor but with peace, so that the world will hear our message clearly! [Amalist Position].
 
[X] We must spread the word of God to the world with vigor but with peace, so that the world will hear our message clearly! [Amalist Position].
 
Also I'm curious about Vaspukaran and the oceans. It seems like the western ones have the easier routes to Firanhj and Landalusaj, but how hard are the eastern routes, especially with modern tech? Does Vaspukaran have any east-sailing trade of note?
 
Potato Anarchy said:
Also I'm curious about Vaspukaran and the oceans. It seems like the western ones have the easier routes to Firanhj and Landalusaj, but how hard are the eastern routes, especially with modern tech? Does Vaspukaran have any east-sailing trade of note?
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There is absolutely a worldwide trade which comes to Vaspukaran from the east. Mandala Andolesi controls a lot of the westward trade to Vaspukaran.
 
[X] We must spread the word of God to the world with vigor but with peace, so that the world will hear our message clearly! [Amalist Position].
 
[X] We must bring up the fallen, and break down the walls of iniquity wherever we may see it, for evil resides not just in Vaspukaran! [Iconoclast and Confessor position].

M*re Delenda Est, etc.
 
Given the prevalence of "got absolutely ruined in the war against the Mare, the Standard is now at a tenth of its size and everyone has PTSD" among sympathetic Juries across the nation I'm not sure it's the right time to plan a rematch against the guys who ate us for lunch last week, tbh.
 
[X] We must spread the word of God to the world with vigor but with peace, so that the world will hear our message clearly! [Amalist Position].

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The Sunset Circle [Patranesia]. Sometimes referred to as the 'fifth eye', it is undeniable that Patranesia is a great power, with the third largest navy in the world, after the Collegium and the Mare.
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Wow our Navy sucks
 
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[x] We must bring up the fallen, and break down the walls of iniquity wherever we may see it, for evil resides not just in Vaspukaran! [Iconoclast and Confessor position].

Workers of the world unite.
 
[X] We must spread the word of God to the world with vigor but with peace, so that the world will hear our message clearly! [Amalist Position].
 
[X] We must bring up the fallen, and break down the walls of iniquity wherever we may see it, for evil resides not just in Vaspukaran! [Iconoclast and Confessor position].
 
[X] We must be a beacon unto the nations, set an exemplar for all to follow, and not be entangled in outside schemes! [Traditional Pugilist Position].
 
[X] We must spread the word of God to the world with vigor but with peace, so that the world will hear our message clearly! [Amalist Position].
 
[X] We must bring up the fallen, and break down the walls of iniquity wherever we may see it, for evil resides not just in Vaspukaran! [Iconoclast and Confessor position].
 
[X] We must bring up the fallen, and break down the walls of iniquity wherever we may see it, for evil resides not just in Vaspukaran! [Iconoclast and Confessor position].
 
[X] We must bring up the fallen, and break down the walls of iniquity wherever we may see it, for evil resides not just in Vaspukaran! [Iconoclast and Confessor position].
 
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Finally there is the accursed continent, Antipodea. When the time comes for the spire to be completed God will destroy this place and melt its ice into the sea. Amen.
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So...global warming is the sign of human coming closer to God?

Cetashwayo said:
Samangan's Notes: Vadati, a southron scholar to the last, never did much like the cold.
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This is a lie, as a person who live near equator, I always long for cold place to escape from heat, even if I can't tolerate anywhere lower than 20 Celsius.

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Great Western Coven [Collegium].

But still, God shall one day blind this eye, and fittingly end its despicable existence which threatens the stability of students of theopolitics everywhere, especially when we discuss 'floating chambers'.

Samangan's Notes: "The Coven is the eternal loser of the Four Eyes of the Earth, and yet by some demonic form continues to survive being inflicted losses on every front. Even now it is tied into a war it will surely lose with the Mare, [...] God should save us from this place which was created by beings not of this earth to torment us. [...] we hold no risk from the Coven save that it will lose successfully should we fight it."
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What did they ever done to us that make us hate them this much? Is it just because they have weird government structure and our priests hate studies about it? Seriously, we hate them even more than the Mare!

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The Sunset Circle [Patranesia].
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Oh hey, a fantasy Indonesia, not something we see often, or at all for that matter.

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Dreamland [Ginnugarap].
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Fantasy aboriginal Australia. Glad to see Confessor are not the only one who are weirdly obsessed with time. Also, they manage to "battled off attempts by the Mare to open it", which is literally a better record than us.

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Blackland [Maganya].
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Why Blackland's map colour is not black?

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Ummat Timar.
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Oh no, it's the fantasy US. They even have manifest destiny.

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The warning left by Kanguedoc is that an overreach of kingship combined with over-mighty vassals can be exploited by foreign enemies to completely destroy the country.
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Of course, High Confessor would also wholeheartedly agree with this, it's just that they think it's meant the vassals must be dissolved so that all-encompassing kingship patriarchate can be established

Edit: I just realise I actually haven't vote yet

[X] We must spread the word of God to the world with vigor but with peace, so that the world will hear our message clearly! [Amalist Position].
 
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[X] We must spread the word of God to the world with vigor but with peace, so that the world will hear our message clearly! [Amalist Position].
 
[X] We must bring up the fallen, and break down the walls of iniquity wherever we may see it, for evil resides not just in Vaspukaran! [Iconoclast and Confessor position].
 
[X] We must bring up the fallen, and break down the walls of iniquity wherever we may see it, for evil resides not just in Vaspukaran! [Iconoclast and Confessor position].
 
[X] We must be a beacon unto the nations, set an exemplar for all to follow, and not be entangled in outside schemes! [Traditional Pugilist Position].

edit: cause I don't want to go to war everywhere
[X] We must spread the word of God to the world with vigor but with peace, so that the world will hear our message clearly! [Amalist Position].
 
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Brothers and sisters, may I offer another caution against voting to attempt to export righteousness by force? In fact, there are two I would note.

The first is the problem of the flaws in Vaspukaran's ability to discern what is evil abroad. In our time in the Mission of Kutan, we found much common feeling and cause with the oppressed natives of the region. But to those unfamiliar with them, the very strangeness of their misguided modes of worship made them appear wicked. To plan to impose righteousness on the world by force relies on an unproven and untrustworthy assumption of infallibility in Vaspukaran's ability to distinguish what is wicked from what is merely strange. But God alone is infallible, and no soul here on the Spiral can be.

And when this is misdiagnosed - and over a sufficient span of time I believe this to become an inevitability, given the inescapable truth of human fallibility - we would become not the liberators but the oppressors ourselves. Surely this is an evil to be avoided.

The second is the problem of perception within the targets of our intervention. I have spoken before of how easily the foreign and the strange may attract aversion due to the very fact of its strangeness. Let us remember that abroad, WE would be the foreign and the strange. If, say, the Mare had sent their warships into our harbors to demand the end of even some manifest injustice within Vaspukaran - the end of penitence, say - do you truly believe this would have aided the cause of reform? Or would it have only triggered national outrage at the hubris and high-handedness of the outsiders, and tarred the reformers of Vaspukaran with the brush of implicit collaboration with an external enemy whether we wished it or not?

For us to intervene in another realm by force would be to make us the Mare in this analogy. Would we even truly be aiding reform, then, or only tainting it with the colors of an imperialist imposition?
 
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