Pretty much my thoughts. She has a sympathetic reason for doing what she did, so she's a lot less likely to die horribly or something. It'd be different if she were some one note villainous snake who gets killed the moment the bandits show up, but this seems like the sort of plot where we save her daughter and she apologizes her guts out offering her support for something important later.
Fire Emblem: Last of the Manakete
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[X] Plan Grab and Go
Barondoctor
The things I chase come to me.
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[X] Plan Grab and Go
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Bit of a red flag that the countess put Ryza in a "guest room" that locks from the outside, no?
Then again, this is the first human room Ryza's slept in, so it's hardly surprising that her instincts are duller than usual.
...I'd say this is also a red flag, but that seems like an understatement. Is there a color more danger-ey than red?
Well, at least she's not selling us out for cash or something. But either the countess is super reckless with her daughter or there's something up with these "bandits". They feel more like an army than a bunch of robbers, but an army that never seems to worry about things like logistics or national borders...
Reminder that "easiest" and "best" are rarely synonymous.
Or we turn dragon and everyone starts trying to murder the monster before it can eat the countess (or open hostage negotiations). So yeah, I don't see that working great without support.
This idea seems like a pretty workable one, aside from step 1.
Assuming, of course, that the Duke finds out. If everything goes as planned, it'll look like the bandits that killed 90% of Artemis's entourage caught up with and recaptured her and the other 10%. And how would he find out? The only people in the castle inclined to tell him are the prisoner, her three mundane bodyguards, and a preteen girl with a mysterious backstory and magical powers.
It would be out of character for Ryza to recognize this, but the whole institution of nobility is pretty ignoble from an ethical perspective.
[X] Go grab your bag: Something's wrong, and you don't want to leave anything behind if you have to do something drastic.
[X] "No! There's got to be another way I'm not going to leave you here! I'll think of something…"
I wish someone had written a write-in that articulated "Plan Save the Countess's Daughter," but I guess I can do that.
[X] Write-in: "Wait. If we save the countess's daughter, she won't want to give you to the bandits any more!"
And also upvote the next closest thing, because approval voting.
[X] Write-In "She just wants her daughter back, right? So after they give her back they won't be able to take you, because they'll be surprised by a dragon!"
Plan Grab And Go seems to be in the lead, followed by Plan Hulk Out, but I hope the winds shift so we decide on something that doesn't basically abandon our non-Artemis friends to the countess's mercy and/or future plans.
TaliesinSkye
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I strongly suspect Artemis and her father will be back. I would like everything to work out neatly too, but I just can't see a way to convince the countess, reliably pull it off, and keep Ryza's secret.
Yes, I should have clarified. I was trying to explain why the Countess can't let Artemis survive this.
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TaliesinSkye
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I'm not sure if you saw it above, but there's a write in option going for taking Artemis with us if that interests you.
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I voted to go full aggro and break everyone out, obviously, but Grab and Go is also not bad. We're gambling with the lives of everyone else, but since they aren't the daughter of high-ranking nobility there should be much less risk for them in confinement. The bandits aren't likely to want them, and Mantrae has little to gain from hurting them, especially since she has to know that Artemis is likely to be back at the head of an army soon. Better to keep them in good shape to try to negotiate later. Of course it's also possible that she'll decide to get vindictive and try to take revenge via hurting or killing them, but them's the breaks. You either go balls to the wall and dragon up to try to get everyone out or accept that risk.
So in other words Grab and Go is more like, "Do a daring nighttime escape mission, and then later in the campaign mount a rescue mission for the others."
So I'll support both I guess:
[X] Plan Grab and Go
[X] "You underestimate my power." Rage flows through you.
So in other words Grab and Go is more like, "Do a daring nighttime escape mission, and then later in the campaign mount a rescue mission for the others."
So I'll support both I guess:
[X] Plan Grab and Go
[X] "You underestimate my power." Rage flows through you.
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[X] Plan Grab and Go
If there's one thing Ryza loves doing, it's flying. This also likely keeps our secret safe from anyone who wasn't already on the lookout for dragons and knew about Ryza. Wyvern rider breaking Artemis out at night makes a lot more sense than dragon. I think we'll also have enough time to stage a rescue of our companions in the future, as the countess will have little reason to kill them if the secret's already out.
For the rage plan, I don't think going rage is really worth it as Artemis is the only one who knows about our dragon form and would be the only one who could plan around us. Our other allies may even attack us, especially if our control is lacking and they have no idea that it is us.
As for convincing the countess... revealing ourself as a dragon to the countess may be enough to change her plan. However, I don't really trust her for obvious reasons and don't really have a good enough read of her to say if she'd be convinced even if we did that.
If there's one thing Ryza loves doing, it's flying. This also likely keeps our secret safe from anyone who wasn't already on the lookout for dragons and knew about Ryza. Wyvern rider breaking Artemis out at night makes a lot more sense than dragon. I think we'll also have enough time to stage a rescue of our companions in the future, as the countess will have little reason to kill them if the secret's already out.
For the rage plan, I don't think going rage is really worth it as Artemis is the only one who knows about our dragon form and would be the only one who could plan around us. Our other allies may even attack us, especially if our control is lacking and they have no idea that it is us.
As for convincing the countess... revealing ourself as a dragon to the countess may be enough to change her plan. However, I don't really trust her for obvious reasons and don't really have a good enough read of her to say if she'd be convinced even if we did that.
TaliesinSkye
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The Anakin Skywalker quote in the Rage option is also kind of concerning, IMHO. Especially given the context of the quote.
Ryza can throw lightning, going full Sith madness would be kind of easy.
Ryza can throw lightning, going full Sith madness would be kind of easy.
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Ryumancer
Dragons Are Romance
Ok, so... Hmm. We don't actually have to break Artemis out immediately. We have time. An unknown amount of time, but at least it's unlikely for anything to happen until morning, so... we should probably take the time to check in on our buddies, see if they're aware of the betrayal, and make them aware if they weren't already, and see if we can get them plotting their own escape, maybe see if they can take advantage of the chaos caused by us going dragon to rip out a window.
[X] Go grab your bag: Something's wrong, and you don't want to leave anything behind if you have to do something drastic.
[X] Plan: Coordinate the group, THEN Grab and Go.
-[X] See if Artemis knows where the rest of our group are.
-[X] Attempt to contact each of them if practical, inform them of the situation.
-[X] If we're noticed, aim to blind with bright flashes of magic, but conserve power when possible. Can't rescue Artemis if you're exhausted.
-[X] We can only reasonably evacuate Artemis, but the countess has no particular reason to harm the rest, so leave it to their discretion whether to stage a breakout, or await rescue.
-[X] Return to Artemis's location, become dargon, rescue Artemis, escape like your life depends on it (it probably does).
[X] Go grab your bag: Something's wrong, and you don't want to leave anything behind if you have to do something drastic.
[X] Plan: Coordinate the group, THEN Grab and Go.
-[X] See if Artemis knows where the rest of our group are.
-[X] Attempt to contact each of them if practical, inform them of the situation.
-[X] If we're noticed, aim to blind with bright flashes of magic, but conserve power when possible. Can't rescue Artemis if you're exhausted.
-[X] We can only reasonably evacuate Artemis, but the countess has no particular reason to harm the rest, so leave it to their discretion whether to stage a breakout, or await rescue.
-[X] Return to Artemis's location, become dargon, rescue Artemis, escape like your life depends on it (it probably does).
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TaliesinSkye
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It's a good thought, but I don't think it's viable. Without flight escape from a garrisoned castle isn't practical. Even if they got out of the walls riders could ride them down. There's a good chance they'd be killed trying, too. And we add to the risk of Ryza being sighted while flying.
[X] "You underestimate my power." Rage flows through you.
Solarstream
It's all in the cards
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[X] Plan Grab and Go
[X] "You underestimate my power." Rage flows through you.
[X] "You underestimate my power." Rage flows through you.
That would be telling
I will tell you is that there is a Sacae counterpart. There are actually a lot of counterparts to different places from various Fire Emblem games, though I've worked to give them all their own unique twists as well.
Dopplerdee
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[X] Plan Grab and Go
I think getting out is a good plan. We can move quite fast flying and my be able to get help from her father really fast. But leaving her here seems like a bad idea.
I think getting out is a good plan. We can move quite fast flying and my be able to get help from her father really fast. But leaving her here seems like a bad idea.
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Personally, I suspect they're patsies or a convenient front for some bigger-picture antagonist, rather than a political bloc in their own right. (My greatest suspicions for that big-picture antagonist are the Empire and that one evil manakete whose name I can't remember.)
Given how much of the Fire Emblem series's storytelling is riffing on a common set of (often quite specific) tropes, I can't imagine a Fire Emblem forum game doing anything different. Unless it does something completely different like that Konosuba-ey FEF campaign.
[X] Plan Grab and Go
-[x] Go grab your bag: Something's wrong, and you don't want to leave anything behind if you have to do something drastic.
-[x] Write in: "No, I'm taking you with me." Shift, smash the window, rip out the mesh, help Artemis jump on your back, hand her your bag, and fly like the wind. Hopefully in the darkness no one will see exactly what happened. Get as far northeast as you can before putting down somewhere horses can't go, away from people. You can make the trip in hops as often as you're able at night, and walk or hide when you need a rest or you'd risk being seen by people below.
-[x] Go grab your bag: Something's wrong, and you don't want to leave anything behind if you have to do something drastic.
-[x] Write in: "No, I'm taking you with me." Shift, smash the window, rip out the mesh, help Artemis jump on your back, hand her your bag, and fly like the wind. Hopefully in the darkness no one will see exactly what happened. Get as far northeast as you can before putting down somewhere horses can't go, away from people. You can make the trip in hops as often as you're able at night, and walk or hide when you need a rest or you'd risk being seen by people below.
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- scrabbling
[X] Plan: Coordinate the group, THEN Grab and Go.
[X] Plan Grab and Go
[X] Plan Grab and Go
WanderingTwix
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While I'm not saying going dragon is the worst option, I feel a bit doubtful that going dragon will let us get away with just not fighting anyone when the given option for it literally has the word "RAGE" in it? Do we fly away angrily? Ragequitting? 
I don't know, feels off to me. We haven't actually fully read the dragon form scroll thing, and it's first-time dragon, and we're pretty young which probably means something.
Well, it's not like I have a better idea. I'm also a big sceptic so who knows, maybe I'm being cynical. I'm just waxing melodramatic over this. I do agree that we should rescue Artemis, though.
I don't know, feels off to me. We haven't actually fully read the dragon form scroll thing, and it's first-time dragon, and we're pretty young which probably means something.Well, it's not like I have a better idea. I'm also a big sceptic so who knows, maybe I'm being cynical. I'm just waxing melodramatic over this. I do agree that we should rescue Artemis, though.
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