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I still feel like that plan is very inefficient.

Your plan has odds of 63% for runes, 34% for CoMC (assuming average results from the breakthrough), and 77% for one of arithmancy and divination, 93% for the other assuming full success in runes, 67% for one of arithmancy and divination, 87% for the other if runes falls short by a milestone

As a potential followup to the charms and astronomy plan

4x breakthrough 1x divination

2x divination 2x arithmancy 1x CoMC

This gives us 46% CoMC 92% divination and 56% arithmncy. It cuts our runes, but we can't get anything further from that after this summer until we can train electives normally.

The odds for this are only very slightly worse, and the slightly better odds don't really seem like they are worth losing out on a full turn of actions for.
 
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The one you calculated was:

June: Breakthrough x5
July: Runes x2 (around 500 points), Malus Runes x1 (80/160), Malus CoMC x2 (300)
August: Divination x2 (700), Arithmancy x2 (700), Malus Whatever x1 based on numbers

As you can see, my plans are based on averages rather than simulated rolls, so I rely on you for precise numbers on that front. If some odds are low, there are other possible combinations. For example, to up that 63% for Runes, we could go Runes x3 (instead of 2 + 1 with malus) or Runes x2 and Malus Runes x2. It also depends on how much overflow we get for CoMC.

Worst case scenario, we play it safe and we get everything but one elective to its cap.
 
Also, just so we're on the same page, since the pools are more complicated than on normal turns, after a June breakthrough:

Each Runes, CoMC, Divination and Arithmancy action is 7d22 DC15 at +50.
With the Malus, each of the above actions is 5d20 DC15 at +30.
With 1-2-3 Runes milestones, each Divination and Arithmancy action is 7d22 DC 14-13-12 at +50.
With 1-2-3 Runes milestones, each Divination and Arithmancy action with the Malus is 5d20 DC 15-15-14 at +30.
 
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I'm undecided on the Plan currently, but let me make the case for Thunderous Cut Technique.

Thunderous Cut Technique is pretty clearly a gate to Lightning techniques. I think this for three reasons:
1) It's literally called Thunderous Cut
2) Lightning in Xianxia is heavily associated with Metal Qi - it's basically the Metal Elemental attack (like Ice is Water's) - and this is Metal/Metal
3) Lightning in nature is generated by rubbing lots of very small things together (like water molecules in clouds). It makes sense that the technique to create lots of very small things is the first step to teaching someone to grasp Lightning Qi

I see a lot of people going for Searing Blade Technique because it could lead to lightsabers eventually. But, I ask you - what is cooler: a lightsaber, or the ability to cast Sith Lightning?
 
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Also, just so we're on the same page, since the pools are more complicated than on normal turns, after a June breakthrough:

Each Runes, CoMC, Divination and Arithmancy action is 7d22 DC15 at +50.
With the Malus, each of the above actions is 5d20 DC15 at +30.
With 1-2-3 Runes milestones, each Divination and Arithmancy action is 7d22 DC 14-13-12 at +50.
With 1-2-3 Runes milestones, each Divination and Arithmancy action with the Malus is 5d20 DC 15-15-14 at +30.
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I forgot to apply the malls to the runes skill, but I got everything else.
 
[X][Plan] Plan The Most Electives
-[X][Training] Breakthrough attempt x5
[X][Social] Contrary to the rumors, Harry Potter is nothing more than a polite twelve year old boy. You sincerely doubt that he's taken Gryffindor's loss of the quidditch cup to heart, but you'd still best make sure that that is the case.
[X][Social] The Ravenclaw first year study club is becoming more active as the year draws to a close. Although you might not say so out loud, you know you're quite highly advanced in your chosen fields, and helping your peers cram in some last minute study seems like the right thing to do.
[X][Social] Although you estimate that the odds are slim, this could be your last chance to confront Daphne Greengrass about your family connection.
 
[X][Quidditch] The Beacon
[X][SVP] Searing Blade Technique

[X][Plan] Plan The Most Electives
-[X][Training] Breakthrough attempt x5

[X][Social] Contrary to the rumors, Harry Potter is nothing more than a polite twelve year old boy. You sincerely doubt that he's taken Gryffindor's loss of the quidditch cup to heart, but you'd still best make sure that that is the case.
[X][Social] The Ravenclaw first year study club is becoming more active as the year draws to a close. Although you might not say so out loud, you know you're quite highly advanced in your chosen fields, and helping your peers cram in some last minute study seems like the right thing to do.
[X][Social] Although you estimate that the odds are slim, this could be your last chance to confront Daphne Greengrass about your family connection.
 
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[X][Plan] Plan The Most Electives

It might not be effiecient, But I like the narative of breaking through before we leave for summer.

[X][SVP] Searing Blade Technique

I want this, Because I could see this comboing eventually with our illusions (from the Light bringer law) to Be able to Cut anything. (Cut organic, Cut inorganic, Cut Illusions, Cut All)

[X][Social] Rather than facing exams at the end of the schoolyear, the fourth year disciples compete against each other in a year-long tourney. The finals are a public spectacle, and you have no intention of missing out on the show.
[X][Social] Contrary to the rumors, Harry Potter is nothing more than a polite twelve year old boy. You sincerely doubt that he's taken Gryffindor's loss of the quidditch cup to heart, but you'd still best make sure that that is the case.
[X][Social] The Ravenclaw first year study club is becoming more active as the year draws to a close. Although you might not say so out loud, you know you're quite highly advanced in your chosen fields, and helping your peers cram in some last minute study seems like the right thing to do.
 
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[X][Plan] Finishing up (no points)

[X][Quidditch] The Beacon
[X][SVP] Horizon Slicing Technique

[X][Social] Contrary to the rumors, Harry Potter is nothing more than a polite twelve year old boy. You sincerely doubt that he's taken Gryffindor's loss of the quidditch cup to heart, but you'd still best make sure that that is the case.
[X][Social] The Ravenclaw first year study club is becoming more active as the year draws to a close. Although you might not say so out loud, you know you're quite highly advanced in your chosen fields, and helping your peers cram in some last minute study seems like the right thing to do.
[X][Social] Rather than facing exams at the end of the schoolyear, the fourth year disciples compete against each other in a year-long tourney. The finals are a public spectacle, and you have no intention of missing out on the show.
[X][Social] You've managed to bring a doodle or two off the page - literally, in some cases - but you'd like to strive for more. Find a model and really put your skills to the test, both artistically and in the realm of Qi animation.
 
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[X][Plan] Finishing up (no points)
-[X][Training] Astronomy x3
-[X][Training] Charms x2
--[X] The Rainbow Brush

[X][Quidditch] The Beacon
[X][SVP] Searing Blade Technique

[X][Social] Contrary to the rumors, Harry Potter is nothing more than a polite twelve year old boy. You sincerely doubt that he's taken Gryffindor's loss of the quidditch cup to heart, but you'd still best make sure that that is the case.
[X][Social] The Ravenclaw first year study club is becoming more active as the year draws to a close. Although you might not say so out loud, you know you're quite highly advanced in your chosen fields, and helping your peers cram in some last minute study seems like the right thing to do.
[X][Social] You've managed to bring a doodle or two off the page - literally, in some cases - but you'd like to strive for more. Find a model and really put your skills to the test, both artistically and in the realm of Qi animation.
 
FriedIce said:
This is potentially a big deal. I don't think I'd want to use it to Master Humble Light Bringer, as IMO Masteries should be personal, but we could use it to get Whip Shear to the third Meridian which could really boost our combat potential.
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Yeah, the jade chits are awesome. It'll get harder and harder to learn techniques, brew potions or charms eventually above 1000 points needed vs 200 points in the beginner stage.
Imagine the leg up the average Slytherin graduate has over the others. The person could know 12 more techniques at their basic level or potentially have a few techniques fully developed.

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Also, we should def. save all 8 points who knows how many points Dumbledore is gonna give Harry!
 
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Edkose said:
Yeah, the jade chits are awesome. It'll get harder and harder to learn techniques, brew potions or charms eventually above 1000 points needed vs 200 points in the beginner stage.
Imagine the leg up the average Slytherin graduate has over the others. The person could know 12 more techniques at their basic level or potentially have a few techniques fully developed.
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I think it could be even better to use them on whatever the electives offer, potentially, although that's limited to stuff already known to us in some capacity, so only CoMC (a spirit companion?) in July (if we get its milestone through breakthrough overflow in June) and probably either Runes or CoMC in August.
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Also, we should def. save all 8 points who knows how many points Dumbledore is gonna give Harry!
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Holy... I totally forgot about that part of the Philosopher's Stone book... A part of me would feel totally cheated if something similar happened in this quest (not unlike the Slytherin characters in canon, I imagine), but on the other hand, it would make sense.

I'm scared. :o
 
[X][Plan] Finishing up (no points)
-[X][Training] Astronomy x3
-[X][Training] Charms x2
--[X] The Rainbow Brush

[X][Quidditch] The Beacon
[X][SVP] Horizon Slicing Technique

[X][Social] Contrary to the rumors, Harry Potter is nothing more than a polite twelve year old boy. You sincerely doubt that he's taken Gryffindor's loss of the quidditch cup to heart, but you'd still best make sure that that is the case.
[X][Social] The Ravenclaw first year study club is becoming more active as the year draws to a close. Although you might not say so out loud, you know you're quite highly advanced in your chosen fields, and helping your peers cram in some last minute study seems like the right thing to do.
[X][Social] You've managed to bring a doodle or two off the page - literally, in some cases - but you'd like to strive for more. Find a model and really put your skills to the test, both artistically and in the realm of Qi animation.

I prefer this plan over the Breakthrough one, as Astronomy has fascinated me since it's introduction in the first couple chapters with it's depiction of the Astronomy tower. This has the benefit of being more efficient dice wise, unlocks a hopefully very fun skill, introducing us to another key part of cultivator society and what shapes it both in a micro and macro scale (control and/or access to certain sites).

Astronomy also has an additional bonus if you win the House Cup, as you still have access to the various Hogwarts cultivation sites which you can use to enhance your learning where you otherwise wouldn't during summer. Well, for non-magical students at least. Students with magical relatives may have other alternatives.
 
FriedIce said:
I'm undecided on the Plan currently, but let me make the case for Thunderous Cut Technique.

Thunderous Cut Technique is pretty clearly a gate to Lightning techniques. I think this for three reasons:
1) It's literally called Thunderous Cut
2) Lightning in Xianxia is heavily associated with Metal Qi - it's basically the Metal Elemental attack (like Ice is Water's) - and this is Metal/Metal
3) Lightning in nature is generated by rubbing lots of very small things together (like water molecules in clouds). It makes sense that the technique to create lots of very small things is the first step to teaching someone to grasp Lightning Qi

I see a lot of people going for Searing Blade Technique because it could lead to lightsabers eventually. But, I ask you - what is cooler: a lightsaber, or the ability to cast Sith Lightning?
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This interpretation is based pretty solely on the last scene of the quidditch match, but I could see the thunderous technique lead to sound, with our multitude of cuts being accompanied by a shockwave of sound. Thunderous can also mean loud after all
 
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From a mechanics standpoint, all we know is that going up a stage will unlock the benefits of its milestones, meaning that if we don't break through, no matter how many points of progress we make by training physical/spiritual cultivation, we would gain nothing from them.

From a narrative standpoint, we know that breaking through will open (or equates to opening) our third eye, a mystical sense for Qi that reveals more about the world and ourselves.

For anything else, your guess is as good as mine.
 
I guess the reason I'm asking is that it may actually be more efficient to do it early (aside from narrative reasons) because our actions may become more effective after we break through.
 
This thing about the immediate breakthrough plan being less efficient is short sighted, in my opinion. The attempts themselves are less efficient, sure, compared to if we make them after Astronomy x3/Charms x2, but on the other hand, we gain more through the summer months and the House Cup benefits. And that's without mentioning their consequences later on, as snowballing is a thing which the immediate breakthrough plan takes the maximum advantage of. So, yeah, more inefficient in the short term and more efficient after.
 
That's the thing. There's only a difference of a milestone or two at most from the electives, if any at all. Compared to the snowball from being able to rush, say, spiritual cultivation a turn earlier it's really not much.
 
From a character perspective, I want to pass our test. I want to prove we are capable. The numbers in both plans are decent enough, so like the narrative is I think is what really pushes me to choose [] Plan The Most Electives.

It just feels weird being one of the best students and not passing our end of year exam at first.

[X][Plan] Plan The Most Electives
-[X][Training] Breakthrough attempt x5
[X][Social] Contrary to the rumors, Harry Potter is nothing more than a polite twelve year old boy. You sincerely doubt that he's taken Gryffindor's loss of the quidditch cup to heart, but you'd still best make sure that that is the case.
[X][Social] The Ravenclaw first year study club is becoming more active as the year draws to a close. Although you might not say so out loud, you know you're quite highly advanced in your chosen fields, and helping your peers cram in some last minute study seems like the right thing to do.
[X][Social] Although you estimate that the odds are slim, this could be your last chance to confront Daphne Greengrass about your family connection.
 
The Most Electives plan gives:
-worse breakthrough odds.
-breakthrough overflow split 6 ways (hard to say if better or worse).
-better odds of reaching Beginner 2 in Arithmancy, Divination and CoMC.
-Beginner 2 in Ancient Runes, or alternatively, much better odds of the three skills above.

The Finishing up plan gives:
-better breakthrough odds
-breakthrough overflow split either seven or nine ways (hard to say if better or worse).
-worse odds of reaching Beginner 2 in Arithmancy, Divination and CoMC, or alternatively, good odds for only two of them.
-Charms at Apprentice and good odds for Astronomy at Apprentice.

That's how I see it, at least, from a mechanics standpoint. The key difference is that we can't train the electives until third year, while we can bring Charms and Astronomy to Apprentice whenever we want. On the other hand, if there's a snowballing difference, it's probably in favor of the Astronomy/Charms plan, actually, so I misspoke on that front.

From a narrative standpoint, it makes more sense to breakthrough now and pass the first exam, though personally, I don't think it makes much of a difference in-story.

All in all, I wouldn't be mad if either of them won, and I'm now voting for both because I can't quite decide.
 
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[X][Plan] Plan The Most Electives
-[X][Training] Breakthrough attempt x5

[X][Quidditch] The Omen

[X][Social] Sue and Mandy both seem to be the outdoors types, and your visit to the Forbidden Forest wasn't all that bad. Try to get your friends to be each other's friends and take a trek through the woods together.
[X][Social] The Ravenclaw first year study club is becoming more active as the year draws to a close. Although you might not say so out loud, you know you're quite highly advanced in your chosen fields, and helping your peers cram in some last minute study seems like the right thing to do.
[X][Social] Although you estimate that the odds are slim, this could be your last chance to confront Daphne Greengrass about your family connection.
 
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