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Hmmph... this junior is a good seed [Cultivation Management Quest]

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    • Jingshen profits each turn from their three southern territories. Let's stop that.

    [X] Plan Speed over Precision: Area Denial & Olympiodora
    -[X] Within the Grand Scorpion Sect territories, Manuel is to remove quislings, lecture and empower the sect and deniably disrupt trade between the northern and southern Jingshen territories. All spoils are to be used to strengthen the Scorpions and develop good relations.
    -[X] Clan Focus: Fortifying (Heavenly Bandit Kingdoms) The clan is to assist the Heavenly Bandits in their rebellion against their Jingshen masters, deniably disrupting trade between the northern and southern Jingshen territories, and leaving the Bandits stronger and more favorably inclined to us.
    -[X] Send the Clan's best Array-Engineers as well as several Legions to the Great Battlefield.
    -[X] Refound the Flood Dragon Gang (20 Wealth)
    -[X] Repay the Hong Xuan (10 Wealth)
    -[X] Olympiodora Rhangabe
     
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    It's called the SCORPION road...

    I frankly don't think that waiting a turn to pay the Hong is a big deal. They know we just suffered our trials and we already made good on part of our agreement by ceding the land. If we go for an economic action I think we can afford to get the Scorpions (limited time offer) which would reinforce our border against Jingshen AND free up legions. We'll still have a decent amount of wealth to pay back the Hong next time.

    Plus, I don't want the window to close on more scorpion options next turn.

    [X] Plan: Proving a Defensive Point with Scorpions
    -[X] Defer payments to the Hong
    -[X] Send the Clan's best Array-Engineers as well as several Legions to the Great Battlefield.
    -[X] Olympiodora Rhangabe
    -[X] Clan focus: Intrigue Jingshen
    -[X] Manuel focus: Economic Activity
    -[X] Refound the Flood Dragon Gang (20 Wealth)
    -[X] The Scorpion Wagons (5 Wealth)


    [X] Plan: Proving a Point with Scorpions
    -[X] Defer payments to the Hong
    -[X] Send the Clan's best Array-Engineers as well as several Legions to the Great Battlefield.
    -[X] Sheng Yu
    -[X] Clan focus: Intrigue Jingshen
    -[X] Manuel focus: Economic Activity
    -[X] Refound the Flood Dragon Gang (20 Wealth)
    -[X] The Scorpion Wagons (5 Wealth)
     
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    Just caught up to main story, love the quest so far! I'm definitely considering making a Good Seed for my first foray into actually writing.

    I haven't caught up to omake though (maybe never will), so I do have a quick question - did the Ninth Prince permanently die, or does he have some means of resurrection? I read the part where he died and there were definitely some flags.
     
    GlassOlive said:
    Just caught up to main story, love the quest so far! I'm definitely considering making a Good Seed for my first foray into actually writing.

    I haven't caught up to omake though (maybe never will), so I do have a quick question - did the Ninth Prince permanently die, or does he have some means of resurrection? I read the part where he died and there were definitely some flags.
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    He definitely has some means of ressurection, his author been planning this arc for a while.
     
    [X] Plan: Proving a Defensive Point with Scorpions
    -[X] Defer payments to the Hong
    -[X] Send the Clan's best Array-Engineers as well as several Legions to the Great Battlefield.
    -[X] Olympiodora Rhangabe
    -[X] Clan focus: Intrigue Jingshen
    -[X] Manuel focus: Economic Activity
    -[X] Refound the Flood Dragon Gang (20 Wealth)
    -[X] The Scorpion Wagons (5 Wealth)
     
    TehChron said:
    [X] Plan: Proving a Point

    Kinda hoping you'll update your post with the adjustments that Alectai and I were discussing via DM when he gets back on, @Resonant
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    Will do so, just ping me here or on Discord to let me know.

    Anders said:
    [X] Plan: Proving a Point
    -[X] Repay the Hong Xuan (10 Wealth)
    -[X] Send the Clan's best Array-Engineers as well as several Legions to the Great Battlefield.
    -[X] Sheng Yu
    -[X] Intrigue/Scouting the Jingshen (Clan)
    -[X] Economic Activity (Manuel)
    -[X] Refound the Flood Dragon Gang (20 Wealth)
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    @Anders Could I request that you kindly remove the extra sub-votes listed under [X] Plan: Proving a Point?

    There are some pending edits to add extra descriptions to the actions, and your vote will unintentionally create an "old version" of the plan if that happens.
    However, voting only for the Plan Name solves this potential issue. Thanks in advance.
     
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    Resonant said:
    [X] Plan: Proving a Point
    -[X] Repay the Hong Xuan (10 Wealth)
    -[X] Send the Clan's best Array-Engineers as well as several Legions to the Great Battlefield.
    -[X] Sheng Yu
    -[X] Intrigue/Scouting the Jingshen (Clan)
    -[X] Economic Activity (Manuel)
    -[X] Refound the Flood Dragon Gang (20 Wealth)
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    Looking at plan I have to wonder doesn't it make more sense to have the clan focus on making money and have Manuel do Intrigue/Scouting the Jingshen (Clan)? I mean it fits Manuel's Dao quite nicely can I am not sure how he would go about making money.
     
    [X] Plan: Proving a Point

    I think this is a good spread of actions, and that we'd miss out more from not having a aggressive Protostrator one than we would form having one who isn't as good on defensive to start with. Also seeing interlude man again is fun.
     
    the plan is to have manuel hunt in turtle bone for stuff to barter for trib treasure(s), iirc, it just wasnt edited yet.
    and we would need most of the cores for that probably, where with intrigue we can spend QC juniors in a tidal wave.
     
    Resonant said:
    Reposting @Alectai's Plan as a placeholder vote to bring it to attention, will edit it later if someone creates fluff descriptions or further details for the actions:

    [X] Plan: Proving a Point
    -[X] Repay the Hong Xuan (10 Wealth)
    -[X] Send the Clan's best Array-Engineers as well as several Legions to the Great Battlefield.
    -[X] Sheng Yu
    -[X] Intrigue/Scouting the Jingshen (Clan)
    -[X] Economic Activity (Manuel)
    -[X] Refound the Flood Dragon Gang (20 Wealth)

    No fancy lore or flavor for this at the moment, but the key point here is establishing how we're a much better ally than Jingshen could ever be while steadily accumulating power. Clan focus is on investigating Jingshen so we can get an idea what the doomclock is at, while Manuel starts poking and prodding around for an economic edge--full recovery from the Trials should happen passively over the course of the turn given how low our casualties were after all.

    And 'Why are you paying Hong Xuan? They can afford to wait!'. And I tell you "Yes, they can, but the key point is that it sets an example to all of our vassals--including the brand new ones that are still a bit uncomfortable but produce valuable Life Extension methods and Luck Supply." These are critical assets that we have no reliable source for outside of them, and it behooves us to make an example of honoring our debts to our vassals. Especially after the Trials--because it is a show of strength to be able to drop something like this right after a time where we should be bleeding out.

    More importantly, we have a short window here where our neighbours expect us to turn inward, so won't be expecting us to be acting outward. This should aid our intrigue attempts on Jingshen and limit the possibility that someone sets up a trap for Manuel.

    Finally, refounding the Flood Dragons is another step towards accumulating a great deal of soft power. They're a known Righteous Sect who have been left to die on the vine until the other powers are good and ready. Bringing them back into play on our own dime is a gigantic diplomatic flex, doubly so as we may be able to get Yao to promise support if Jingshen starts shit. This is extra profound because Jingshen just fucked up their own diplomatic efforts, so we can roll in and take advantage.

    Now, some possibilities include a diplo push instead of intrigue while having Manuel intrigue Jingshen--which is an exciting if risky prospect, but this is just my off the cuff assessment of the whole setup. I'll leave it for other minds to pick things over and add suitable fluff.
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    Thanks mate, here's the fluff additions.

    [X] Plan: Proving a Point
    -[] Repay the Hong Xuan (10 Wealth)
    --[ ] As convenient as deferral would be, much of our reputation--such as it is--relies on our uncompromising commitment to the bargains made. So long as our subordinates know that cooperation will be rewarded in due course and without significant delay, they will continue to cooperate--and not begin shopping around to invite another Power to meddle
    -[] Send the Clan's best Array-Engineers as well as several Legions to the Great Battlefield.
    --[ ] The time to show the Clan's strength is now--with the Great Battlefield approaching the next act of the Ninth Demon Annihilating War, we have a rare opportunity to show how our current generation is not to be trifled with. Not merely as engineers, but the march of our Legions--hardened by the Trials and empowered by new discoveries. A reminder to those who might think to meddle with the Desert's affairs, that the Golden Devil Clan is peerless in the art of War.
    -[] Sheng Yu
    --[ ] The Clan does not lack for experts in fortification, nor does it suffer in coordination, or the skill of our Engineers. But even with our new lands and new strength, without the ability to attack at times of need, we may find ourselves passing off key opportunities in the Great Era. Sheng Yu has proven himself the great strike on Jingshen--give him the support and backing needed to repeat this feat as further opportunities arise.
    -[] Intrigue/Scouting the Jingshen (Clan)
    --[ ] With Sun Diaxiang unable to make a move on the Optimatoi for some time yet, the Jingshen Clan is the most immediate threat to our survival. Should they muster a third Nascent Soul before we can raise a second of our own, calamity will surely follow. Send forth our eyes and ears, pay off who we must, discover what weaknesses we may. And above all else? Get us a timeline about how long we have to work before this rivalry comes to a head.
    -[] Economic Activity (Manuel)
    --[ ] With the Trials leaving the Clan in good condition, there is time to see to the affairs of the future--and our most key concern is raising a second Nascent Soul. This will require a degree of wealth--yes--but more importantly, it will require the necessary tools and treasures to tilt the scales in the Clan's favor in the inevitable Tribulation. And for treasures capable of influencing a Nascent Soul's rise? Who better to seek them than the Archgetes himself?
    -[] Refound the Flood Dragon Gang (20 Wealth)
    --[ ] The Flood Dragon Gang are stalwart allies--as Lady Yao aided us in our time of need, so will we return the favor. This is proper behavior. That we can make use of the opening of our vaults to re-establish a middle-power in time to contribute further to the Demon Annihilating War--while shaming our more self-centered rivals? Well, nobody ever said doing the right thing couldn't also join hands with self-interest, did they?
     
    Alectai said:
    Thanks mate, here's the fluff additions.

    [X] Plan: Proving a Point
    -[] Repay the Hong Xuan (10 Wealth)
    --[ ] As convenient as deferral would be, much of our reputation--such as it is--relies on our uncompromising commitment to the bargains made. So long as our subordinates know that cooperation will be rewarded in due course and without significant delay, they will continue to cooperate--and not begin shopping around to invite another Power to meddle
    -[] Send the Clan's best Array-Engineers as well as several Legions to the Great Battlefield.
    --[ ] The time to show the Clan's strength is now--with the Great Battlefield approaching the next act of the Ninth Demon Annihilating War, we have a rare opportunity to show how our current generation is not to be trifled with. Not merely as engineers, but the march of our Legions--hardened by the Trials and empowered by new discoveries. A reminder to those who might think to meddle with the Desert's affairs, that the Golden Devil Clan is peerless in the art of War.
    -[] Sheng Yu
    --[ ] The Clan does not lack for experts in fortification, nor does it suffer in coordination, or the skill of our Engineers. But even with our new lands and new strength, without the ability to attack at times of need, we may find ourselves passing off key opportunities in the Great Era. Sheng Yu has proven himself the great strike on Jingshen--give him the support and backing needed to repeat this feat as further opportunities arise.
    -[] Intrigue/Scouting the Jingshen (Clan)
    --[ ] With Sun Diaxiang unable to make a move on the Optimatoi for some time yet, the Jingshen Clan is the most immediate threat to our survival. Should they muster a third Nascent Soul before we can raise a second of our own, calamity will surely follow. Send forth our eyes and ears, pay off who we must, discover what weaknesses we may. And above all else? Get us a timeline about how long we have to work before this rivalry comes to a head.
    -[] Economic Activity (Manuel)
    --[ ] With the Trials leaving the Clan in good condition, there is time to see to the affairs of the future--and our most key concern is raising a second Nascent Soul. This will require a degree of wealth--yes--but more importantly, it will require the necessary tools and treasures to tilt the scales in the Clan's favor in the inevitable Tribulation. And for treasures capable of influencing a Nascent Soul's rise? Who better to seek them than the Archgetes himself?
    -[] Refound the Flood Dragon Gang (20 Wealth)
    --[ ] The Flood Dragon Gang are stalwart allies--as Lady Yao aided us in our time of need, so will we return the favor. This is proper behavior. That we can make use of the opening of our vaults to re-establish a middle-power in time to contribute further to the Demon Annihilating War--while shaming our more self-centered rivals? Well, nobody ever said doing the right thing couldn't also join hands with self-interest, did they?
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    Do you think it is worth including a reference in the fluff about the Nascent Owls in Turtlebone mountain. They're of the quality we're looking for in tradeable material and useful even within the Clan. We have prior experience in our favor which should boost the rolls and there are two of them and possibly nestlings.
     
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