Hmmph... this junior is a good seed [Cultivation Management Quest]

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If by some freakish chance the sheer density of Spirit Stones enables Yao to reach Mid-Nascent Soul in an appreciable time frame then that's just plusses all around frankly.
 
If by some freakish chance the sheer density of Spirit Stones enables Yao to reach Mid-Nascent Soul in an appreciable time frame then that's just plusses all around frankly.
IIRC the Flood Dragon Gang can't support a Mid-Nascent Soul so Yao is probably going to use the stones to just maintain her cultivation. They need actual land for that which they don't have and don't want the trouble of managing.
 
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Yeah, my impression is that Jingshen was going to buy another income booster at ruinous expense during this opener, but it was entirely wasted thanks to Yao doing Yao Things which drained a sizable chunk of their reserve for no gain.

No content tonight unfortunately, I just couldn't get any good ideas. Have to see how events unfold I think.
 
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Year 108 - Sucking Up To the Strong
Kleisthenes sat in the carriage thoughtfully. Journeying across the mountains to visit the Strength Purity Sect was no small matter, yet the situation had been to advantageous enough to warrant it.

Manuel had spoken to her, asking her if there wasn't a better option, an easier way. There was, but only easier or better. Not both. Plus... getting away for awhile had been nice. Seeing the devastation every day just made her resent the old man, even if she knew he was doing his best. She didn't want to hate him, everything was just too raw right now.

In any case, she could excuse it under the old canard that desperate times called for these measures. So for the first time in at least two centuries, an Elder of the Golden Devils crossed the mountains into the Green Scale Plains. Qi flush in the air, plants growing everywhere - the wealth had been unbelievable, even if she'd read the reports. The Strength Purity Sect had hosted her in a small inn, making sure not to violate any diplomatic proprieties the Righteous powers so carefully followed. In the end she'd met with their Elder of Diplomacy, a broad-chested man named Quan Yi. He'd crept in while hiding his face under a cloak, of all things, which had eye-holes cut into it.

She wasn't sure if he'd been jesting or serious half the time, but they'd come to an accord despite the man refusing to remove what she had begun to suspect was an ordinary sheet he'd pilfered from the inn's cupboards - and not a 'Three Ghost Hiding Spirit Cloak' after all.

The Strength Purity Sect would graciously accept the tributes offered by the inferior Golden Devils, and so on for a bit. That part went for eight pages, actually. It was important for Strength Purity to retain their face, and Kleisthenes didn't care one whit for face among the Righteous or Demonic powers, so she didn't mind.

The upshot was simple. Strength Purity would find themselves paying less tributes than even on a specifically-agreed volume of cargo headed into the desert for trade, and in return tariffs on both spirit stones and goods would be permitted to increase, with a portion of the increase being set aside for Strength Purity themselves. In return, they'd be patrolling the Scorpion Road for some time, ostensibly as guarantors of an agreement with a vile Demonic Clan, but in practice a place to put their lightly wounded, their talents who they wanted to save from the war, and anyone who was useless off the frontline but they didn't want to risk against the Demonic Altar. Lots of manpower was the wrong way to face Blood Path, anyway. In practical terms, it meant a significant increase in Clan income, backed by the Strength Purity Sect.

Jingshen would be unhappy, but they almost always were. The Clan's existence of levying tariffs on their Spirit Stones made them unhappy, but they wouldn't escalate. Not with the backing of another Righteous Power.

The Clan would be sending over almost an entire legion of array-engineers, though they were going to be expected to wear skin paint at all times and pretend to be barbarians from the north. Anyone 'discovered' to be from a Demonic power faced execution, so they were going to be kept in a camp by themselves, guarded by loyal Strength Purity members. They'd be reinforcing a bunch of back-line mortal cities to ensure deep raids didn't take root in the Sect's territory.

The ruse was so simple it seemed pointless, but Kleisthenes supposed the point was to be the strongest so you didn't need to follow the rules, but at least pretend to not violate them. Normally this simply didn't happen, but the War must be going worse than she knew. Not that they knew what was happening, now Nikephoros was dead.

Still. The income and goodwill would be tremendously worthwhile, and Jingshen wouldn't act against them while Strength Purity was on the road.

A balancing act. More money, though a loss of some fortification potential.

Keeping Jingshen down, but antagonising them more. Above all else, buying a little time, a little stability, a little more money. Thirty-two years was all they had before Old Cannibal came roaring across the border, and it wasn't enough. Not even close to enough. But if they could buy time to hold, to find enough to throw Old Cannibal back, if they could hold onto their gains... she didn't think it'd work, but if Manuel were proved right, well. She didn't want her sister to have died for nothing.

There had been a few absurd clauses. Apparently one of their young masters had somehow convinced the Elder to put in a political marriage clause of all things, legalising a single marriage between the Clan and the Strength Purity Sect if it were agreed upon by both Manuel and their Patriarch. She had assented, though had wrung a few more spirit stones in trade out of the man for the trouble. No doubt some young master saw and fell in love with a girl of the Clan, and decided to use his influence to impress her. Well, it wasn't any of her business. Not that any good young girl of the Clan would be marrying a Righteous young master, not while she had any say in the matter. She'd sooner sell herself than sell any of her youngsters, and she wasn't exactly keen on the former.

So she returned in her carriage over the mountains, cultivating most of the time.

It wasn't until they trundled back into the desert that a face popped up, the harbinger of a terrifying presence that rose up beneath her, encircling her spiritual self like an ocean surrounding a soap bubble, ready to make it pop.

Snake in one eye, flowers for ears... Kleisthenes sighed.

"Lady Yao Zhihao. To what do I owe the pleasure?"

The woman bounced, grime spilling off her in spatters and spits. For a moment, Kleisthenes swore she smelled bone broth. Absurd. Even Zhihao wouldn't bathe in broth, of all things.

She paused for a moment, not wanting to take that thought any further.

"You know, I was going to tell Old Gold, but that man frightens me sometimes. So old, so much food to eat, and yet he's skinny as a stick. Explain that!"

Kleisthenes grimaced. Dealing with the woman once or twice when they had both been in Core Formation had been frustrating, but now... it was like dealing with a puppy that refused to bathe and could also kill you with an idle snap of its jaws. Frustrating and terrifying in equal measure.

"What did you wish to tell the Grand Elder? I am of course at your disposal for any message you wish to send."

Zhihao smiled, iron and gold teeth gleaming in the sun.

"So, I accidentally killed a bunch of Jingshen elders and took their stuff."

"Accidentally?"

"I didn't mean to kill them at first, you see. It just sort of happened."

"Please tell me you haven't started a war."

Zhihao grinned.

"No, no. Here, I put my memories into this jade slip. It'll detonate in a day, I don't want the old man seeing them."

Kleisthenes quickly infused her will.

It wasn't a memory of Yao Zhihao killing elders. It was a scene of Yao Zhihao dictating - in classical style, which she never would have guessed the woman knew - a poem about her victorious and righteous battle over the thieving and evil Jingshen.

"Most of those words don't rhyme", Kleisthenes said.

Shocked at her own words, she shook her head. She shouldn't be so open with a Nascent Soul!

Zhihao laughed, leapt into the air, and disappeared.

Kleisthenes found herself rubbing her skull with two fingers on each temple, grimacing even worse. The treaty was good, but what on earth was she to tell the Grand Elder about this?
 
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Aurelius Mancius 2 - Recovery
Recovery
Aurelius Mancius cuddled up with the blankets on his bed at home. His parents had insisted he rest and recover after coming so close to death so quickly. His parents were growing old, something that pained him, but they were proud of their lives and of him though they worried constantly. His mother fed him hearty soups by hand, while his father would read to him from the scrolls Aurelius had paid for with what few points he had managed to acquire. Aurelius insisted his parents still worked, kept to the rest of their lives at least enough to keep things from falling apart without them. Still he enjoyed the time spent with them, and knew it could not last. Unless he got particularly unlucky, again, he would almost assuredly outlive his parents. He had rarely really considered that, and what it meant. That if he succeeded in his goals, he might very well live on for a thousand years beyond the death of his parents. He knew what he wanted to do, he knew what he needed to do, what the clan needed him to do. But he had time yet, and he would take it to give his parents one last chance to take care of him, and for him to spend time with them, to etch the memory of them in his soul. Of course, memory could be faulty, and he had no intention of allowing such a failure. Once he had recovered enough, he would gather the points necessary to get a portrait of his parents made. In fact a series of them, he would not forget his parents that taught him so much, had helped him on his path, had loved and cherished him and even now seeing him weak and wounded were so obviously proud of him. His only regret was that he would not be able to introduce them to his wife, if and when he found her. These thoughts filled his mind as he recovered.
 
Now that the Jingshen clan has been largely blocked from messing with us, I think now would be a good time to repair relations with them in preparation for joint operations against the Blood Cannibals.
 
The Clan would be sending over almost an entire legion of array-engineers, though they were going to be expected to wear skin paint at all times and pretend to be barbarians from the north. Anyone 'discovered' to be from a Demonic power faced execution, so they were going to be kept in a camp by themselves, guarded by loyal Strength Purity members. They'd be reinforcing a bunch of back-line mortal cities to ensure deep raids didn't take root in the Sect's territory.
I'm pretty hyped about this. Feels like the start to us being able to gradually help out more as kind of Mercs for the Clan. Earning resources in this fashion? I won't mind it at all.
 
Now that the Jingshen clan has been largely blocked from messing with us, I think now would be a good time to repair relations with them in preparation for joint operations against the Blood Cannibals.
Id really rather not, considering how things went the last time we did.

Which was to take territory, and then salt what they didnt intend on keeping. Like it absolutely helped in a specific sense, but the fact that it turned out that the Blood Cannibals were turbo screwed as it was and the Jiangshen then leveraged that into taking the Desert Oasis and turning it into a massive source of wealth from the Righteous Powers during the Demon Annihilating War leaves a sour taste in my mouth.

We aren't trying to take territory from the Cannibals here.

We're trying to force a stalemate so we can recover in peace.

If we have resources to bribe the Jiangshen with, we're better off spending them on fortifying and recovering.
 
Id really rather not, considering how things went the last time we did.

Which was to take territory, and then salt what they didnt intend on keeping. Like it absolutely helped in a specific sense, but the fact that it turned out that the Blood Cannibals were turbo screwed as it was and the Jiangshen then leveraged that into taking the Desert Oasis and turning it into a massive source of wealth from the Righteous Powers during the Demon Annihilating War leaves a sour taste in my mouth.

We aren't trying to take territory from the Cannibals here.

We're trying to force a stalemate so we can recover in peace.

If we have resources to bribe the Jiangshen with, we're better off spending them on fortifying and recovering.
That was a deal originated by the Jiangshen clan, for the benefit of the Jiangshen clan.

A deal originated by us (and especially now that we have lost the malus to our rolls) is likely to be much more in our longterm favor. And we've already seen that diplomatic arrangements can be mutually profitable thanks to our deal with the Strength Sect.

That said, it could very well be more worthwhile to take other actions in preparation for the feud of the Blood Cannibals Clan.

As I see it, we have a couple other options of immediate use:
-Fortification
--Very long border
--we currently have much less fortification ability than normal
--Currently suffering from reoranization malus
--Useful as both a deterrent and in actual combat

-Train disciples
--Good use of Manuel's time

-Prepare for War
--Not so useful as a deterrent, but is useful in combat

-Intrigue
--Good use of Manuel's time
--Useful as both a deterrent and in actual combat
--Currently suffering from a reorganization malus
--Going against an elderly nascent soul counterintrigue specialist

-Diplomacy with the Blood Cannibals
--Hahaha, no.
 
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That was a deal originated by the Jiangshen clan, for the benefit of the Jiangshen clan.

A deal originated by us (and especially now that we have lost the malus to our rolls) is likely to be much more in our longterm favor. And we've already seen that diplomatic arrangements can be mutually profitable thanks to our deal with the Strength Sect
That's not how negotiations work

To get them to agree to anything we'd still have to bribe them, and the last time we did that they received a permanent income increase from a Nascent Soul level treasure

That's the kind of scale we would be better served investing in the Clan itself.

We've already served the long term in acquiring the Technique Palace and expending the luck malus. This is short term time.

Going against an elderly nascent soul counterintrigue specialist
And who would that be?
 
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That's not how negotiations work

To get them to agree to anything we'd still have to bribe them, and the last time we did that they received a permanent income increase from a Nascent Soul level treasure

That's the kind of scale we would be better served investing in the Clan itself.

We've already served the long term in acquiring the Technique Palace and expending the luck malus. This is short term time.


And who would that be?
We just literally got a semi-permanent income increase from our agreement with the Strength Sect. Trade agreements make both participating parties more powerful relative to non-participating parties. Now that we have made the Jiangshen Clan suffer several setbacks, and neutered their ability to use that strength against us, now is a good time to make an arrangement with them against our much more immediate enemy the Blood Cannibals.

As to your question:
Old Cannibal, who has specialized in foiling the plans of our elderly Nascent Sould intrigue specialist Old Gold.
 
So if Jingshen will be hurting from the loss of the stolen resources and this new Nascent Soul up and leaving (as ruminated in in her PoV) plus this higher tax, where would they most likely spend their effort on?

i believe they'd first be trying to fortify their gains instead. Hopefully they would wait for the Cannibals to attack and be a vulture again. We need the time.
 
We just literally got a semi-permanent income increase from our agreement with the Strength Sect. Trade agreements make both participating parties more powerful relative to non-participating parties. Now that we have made the Jiangshen Clan suffer several setbacks, and neutered their ability to use that strength against us, now is a good time to make an arrangement with them against our much more immediate enemy the Blood Cannibals.
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We haven't neutered anything nor is the situation with the Strength Purity Sect permanent. Until we have them listed under "trade partners" all income boosts we receive from another polity should be considered to be temporary.

And we dont want the Jingshen getting more powerful. They already have more Nascent Souls than we do.


As to your question:
Old Cannibal, who has specialized in foiling the plans of our elderly Nascent Sould intrigue specialist Old Gold.
Since when?
 
Magnus Centenius 15- It's Finally Done, but There is Still Work to be Done
Magnus Pt. 15- It's Finally Done, but There is Still Work to be Done

It took far longer than it should, but it was finally done. Magnus had yet again branched out to another business, and build a restaurant/inn/tea house on a decently large piece of land. His brother was at the grand opening and teasing him about being adopted from a merchant clan. Magnus responded that they were twins and if he was adopted then so was his brother. That shut his brother up.

Magnus looked that the 10 story building that was an investment of most of his money. The first basement floor was his personal wine brewing room and the floor beneath that was his storage room. The ground floor was set up as a reception for all the businesses in the building. The second and third floors were set up as an upscale tea house with fine decorations and many windows for a wonderful view. The next five floors were rooms for guests. Each standard guest area would have their own room, bathroom, living room, and meditation room. The top 2 floors and roof, had the new restaurant Dark Gold.

He had invited a few spirit chef journeymen to work at his restaurant. They were his follow apprentices and had trained together before Magnus left to learn wine brewing. They had stayed with it and now made such delicacies like Thunder Lion Head Meatball Stew and Flying Pig Pork Buns. One of them, Mei, had gained some inspiration from Magnus and branched out to tea brewing. She had great talent for it, and it was because of her, Magnus had changed his idea of making a bar to a tea house. It took him an extra year to wait for the Feng Shui master to adjust everything to the new design.

Magnus was not happy with just one building and business, he was preparing to build 13 more buildings. One to represent each of the members of the thirteen and one building to serve as sales and an auction house. His second Building had already begun construction. It will be his poison tower. Magnus will practice his most dangerous work here and possible teach students one day.

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I finally truly understand all the author complaints about writers block

@occipitallobe @Alectai @BungieONI so short this time, but I just want to have this out before the next turn
 
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We haven't neutered anything nor is the situation with the Strength Purity Sect permanent. Until we have them listed under "trade partners" all income boosts we receive from another polity should be considered to be temporary.

And we dont want the Jingshen getting more powerful. They already have more Nascent Souls than we do.



Since when?
The income will likely last until the end of the current conflict, which currently has no signs of abating. If we want to make a more permanent arrangement, we could send another delegation to the Strength Sect. That probably isn't a good idea though, when we are making turn to turn decisions.

The Jiangshen are our rivals, yes. They are dangerous, yes. Their defeat, and eventual subjugation by us is a necessity. But their danger is in the far future, with just this last turn weakening their forces and significantly reducing their wealth thanks to our alliance with the Flood Dragons, and our agreement with the Strength Sect preventing them from taking advantage of us in our weakened state.

We need to keep in mind that they are our rivals, not our enemies. Our enemies are: the Abyssal Bees, the Blood Cannibal Sect, and the Divine Saber Palace. Our enemies make seeking our destruction an end in and of itself, whereas our rivals will 'merely' seek our destruction when it results in their material gain.

Until our enemies are defeated, we will have to work with our rivals (just as we worked with the Righteous Strength Sect against the Jiangshen) against others if we want to survive. In the desert, any two clans working together can easily defeat the third. We could not have forced Old Blood into such a favorable agreement if he hasn't just suffered significant losses against the Jianshen.

The Blood Cannibals are an immense and immediate threat, and the cultivator and territory losses that they would force on us pales against the threat of a strengthened Jiangshen clan. If nothing else, we have multiple turns to deal with the Jiangshen, and only one to deal with the Blood Cannibals.

As to Old Blood:

Just about single time that Old Blood is mentioned, it talks about the steps that has taken to foil Old Gold and the sheer amount of hatred that he has for him. @occipitallobe was talking about Old Cannibal's information security practices on discord yesterday.
 
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The income will likely last until the end of the current conflict, which currently has no signs of abating. If we want to make a more permanent arrangement, we could send another delegation to the Strength Sect. That probably isn't a good idea though, when we are making turn to turn decisions.

The Jiangshen are our rivals, yes. They are dangerous, yes. Their defeat, and eventual subjugation by us is a necessity. But their danger is in the far future, with just this last turn weakening their forces and significantly reducing their wealth thanks to our alliance with the Flood Dragons, and our agreement with the Strength Sect preventing them from taking advantage of us in our weakened state.

We need to keep in mind that they are our rivals, not our enemies. Our enemies are: the Abyssal Bees, the Blood Cannibal Sect, and the Divine Saber Palace. Our enemies make seeking our destruction an end in and of itself, whereas our rivals will 'merely' seek our destruction when it results in their material gain.

Until our enemies are defeated, we will have to work with our rivals (just as we worked with the Righteous Strength Sect against the Jiangshen) against others if we want to survive. In the desert, any two clans working together can easily defeat the third. We could not have forced Old Blood into such a favorable agreement if he hasn't just suffered significant losses against the Jianshen.

The Blood Cannibals are an immense and immediate threat, and the cultivator and territory losses that they would force on us pales against the threat of a strengthened Jiangshen clan. If nothing else, we have multiple turns to deal with the Jiangshen, and only one to deal with the Blood Cannibals.

As to Old Blood:

Just about single time that Old Blood is mentioned, it talks about the steps that has taken to foil Old Gold and the sheer amount of hatred that he has for him. @occipitallobe was talking about Old Cannibal's information security practices on discord yesterday.
Your analysis of Jingshen as rivals is incorrect. Their long run has desert hegemony (removing us from the field) as a goal. When it is in their long-term interest to sabotage and undermine at every step, we cannot afford any ground. They have every right to do so, according to the Laws of Heaven.

It's existential.
 
The income will likely last until the end of the current conflict, which currently has no signs of abating. If we want to make a more permanent arrangement, we could send another delegation to the Strength Sect. That probably isn't a good idea though, when we are making turn to turn decisions.

The Jiangshen are our rivals, yes. They are dangerous, yes. Their defeat, and eventual subjugation by us is a necessity. But their danger is in the far future, with just this last turn weakening their forces and significantly reducing their wealth thanks to our alliance with the Flood Dragons, and our agreement with the Strength Sect preventing them from taking advantage of us in our weakened state.
That second Paragraph has genuinely no basis in reality...?

We dont know how much the Jingshens wealth was reduced by, and for that matter the power gap between us is an immediate concern, as is the threat of Old Cannibal gunning for us.

The Jingshens danger is as immediate as us showing enough vulnerability for them to push Jiao to mid Nascent Soul or for them to pop out a third Nascent Soul entirely. Those arent far in the future. They're relatively soon.


We need to keep in mind that they are our rivals, not our enemies. Our enemies are: the Abyssal Bees, the Blood Cannibal Sect, and the Divine Saber Palace. Our enemies make seeking our destruction an end in and of itself, whereas our rivals will 'merely' seek our destruction when it results in their material gain.
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The difference between Rivals and Enemies is a willingness to negotiate, not so much a lack of enmity. They're going to try and purge us regardless to take control of the Scorpion Road. The reason why doesnt matter when all sides are gunning for your throat all the same.


Until our enemies are defeated, we will have to work with our rivals (just as we worked with the Righteous Strength Sect against the Jiangshen) against others if we want to survive. In the desert, any two clans working together can easily defeat the third. We could not have forced Old Blood into such a favorable agreement if he hasn't just suffered significant losses against the Jianshen.
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No that was entirely due to Corpse Gulper threatening his life though?


Just about single time that Old Blood is mentioned, it talks about the steps that has taken to foil Old Gold and the sheer amount of hatred that he has for him. @occipitallobe was talking about Old Cannibal's information security practices on discord yesterday
Can you cite some examples?
 
Well, no.

The fact is that Old Cannibal has to willingly accept a hit on his already shitty cohesion to successfully hide what he's doing from Manuel. And in doing so it also exposes him to being discovered by less rarified assets.

It's not some genius play, the only reason it works is because the Blood Cannibals are pretty much immune to attrition even when they should be subject to it. So they can afford to fuck up eight times to get two minor wins. He has to pit his greatest weakness against our greatest strength and hope we miss a spot to win in a conventional fight with us, even setting aside possible Nascentbowl provocations.

It's precisely why he has to go All In right away, because we've already had an uncomfortably long period of time to sink our teeth into our new holdings, if we get a chance to develop them to maximum, he'll never take them back.

The real nightmare scenario would be him cutting a deal with the Devil Bees for a two pronged invasion. Which is why it was so important for us to get our intelligence apparatus back online ASAP, even at risk of conventional defeat. And also why it's so important for Manuel to be doing a counterintelligence sweep next turn.
 
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The real nightmare scenario would be him cutting a deal with the Devil Bees for a two pronged invasion. Which is why it was so important for us to get our intelligence apparatus back online ASAP, even at risk of conventional defeat. And also why it's so important for Manuel to be doing a counterintelligence sweep next turn.
I do doubt this particular horror scenario is going to occur though, thankfully, because there is very very little indication of a connect between the two factions that I can recall and the Devil Bees are currently busy ripping eachother's guts out so he'd have to convince one of the Nascents overseeing the civil war to back him when he doesn't have a lot to give to them that'd be worth that Nascent taking their attention off the civil war and the potential supremacy of their side.
 
I do doubt this particular horror scenario is going to occur though, thankfully, because there is very very little indication of a connect between the two factions that I can recall and the Devil Bees are currently busy ripping eachother's guts out so he'd have to convince one of the Nascents overseeing the civil war to back him when he doesn't have a lot to give to them that'd be worth that Nascent taking their attention off the civil war and the potential supremacy of their side.

Yeah, which is why the risk hits when the Devil Bees sort things out as opposed to right now, hence why we need to get ready to cut that off.
 
@occipitallobe I was looking at the spreadsheet before going to write this turn omake (which will be done either today or tomorrow) and I noticed two things. One: Yan had two lifesaving treasures going into the trials and he only used one (I don't know if he should have used two) and you have his lifesaving treasures marked at zero. Two: he doesn't have an impact score (I don't know If this is intentional and you were going to do so another time as a lot of other people don't have one).
 
@occipitallobe I was looking at the spreadsheet before going to write this turn omake (which will be done either today or tomorrow) and I noticed two things. One: Yan had two lifesaving treasures going into the trials and he only used one (I don't know if he should have used two) and you have his lifesaving treasures marked at zero. Two: he doesn't have an impact score (I don't know If this is intentional and you were going to do so another time as a lot of other people don't have one).
Don't worry, Impact is still being worked out.

As for the LSTs, you are absolutely correct. I'll fix it up. (I'm a collaborator, by the way.)
 
@occipitallobe I was looking at the spreadsheet before going to write this turn omake (which will be done either today or tomorrow) and I noticed two things. One: Yan had two lifesaving treasures going into the trials and he only used one (I don't know if he should have used two) and you have his lifesaving treasures marked at zero. Two: he doesn't have an impact score (I don't know If this is intentional and you were going to do so another time as a lot of other people don't have one).
Brief addon as well. Impact is being worked on in the Discord. And while those in there can work it out for those that aren't, it's still better if the actual author suggests a Impact value because they themselves know the worth of their Character. (In the Discord i mean)
 
Brief addon as well. Impact is being worked on in the Discord. And while those in there can work it out for those that aren't, it's still better if the actual author suggests a Impact value because they themselves know the worth of their Character. (In the Discord i mean)
Then I suppose I should go and join it.
 
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