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Adhoc vote count started by zinay on Nov 8, 2020 at 10:52 PM, finished with 354 posts and 62 votes.
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Rihaku said:
"Tsch." Letrizia sighed. "The timing couldn't be worse. Versch is nowhere near fully recovered, and even his auxiliary armor now needs repairs. Not that he would stand much of a chance while injured against a properly-maintained Procyon."
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I gotta wonder, what exactly is the difference between the Foremost made Armaments and the others? Considering how powerful even a Shard of the Arcanist is, it seems very possible that the Foremost were just stronger than most of their Armaments, which seems weird unless they have some greater potential just waiting to be unlocked. Could that be due to the difference in piloting them as a normal person versus a Cursebearer? Or were they really just intended as super construction robots? But if that was the case, why would they be imbued with such skill with combat?

Call Up might be worth taking for the Foremost lore it entails alone, even if it didn't have the ability to drastically improve our chances against Procyon.
 
[X] Call Up

There is a simple way to win this fight and crush Death Gang's hopes and dreams at the same time.

1: Generate enough picks to take fisher king (needs 2 picks and 12 arete).
2: Buy Sword in the Stone, which is unlocked at that point and does not require any picks (24 arete)

2 picks is relatively easy to generate, we may be able to get that without even waking up the Arcanist or feeding it Versch. We had "well over 30 Arete" some time ago, so 36 arete by a week or two from now seems reasonable.

Sword in the stone gives immense combat power, enough to straight up win. Possibly more than OaF III, and without any mental contamination. It also ensures the possibility of resurrection, meaning we'll have defeated Death Gang for at least a couple timeskips until our enemies level up some more.

Not only that, but it turns our kingdoms into paradise realms so we can actually fix all the problems we've caused.

I'm honestly baffled that people like Hold the Line so much. If Hunger was defending his wife or something I'd be game, but this is such a lame fight for him to go out on, and it's especially lame given a practical solution is at hand.
 
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I kinda thought the plan was to try to buy OaF II. I'm pretty sure we've met the requirements and the effects of OaF III are likely quite good.
 
JOEbob said:
Ber could damage armament-skin and we've outscaled him tremendously.
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Ber was able to damage Armament-skin because Verschlengorge was utterly crippled. Letrizia and her Robot had been completely torn apart when we met them. At the time of the fight with Ber, Verschlengorge did not have enough Rank to manifest a Shroud. The blurb in 'Meditations on the Sword' indicates that Versch's Rank was less than Five:

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[ ] Study Verschlengorge - Hunger is pretty sure he can heal Verschlengorge to Rank 5, with all the attendant consequences thereof.
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Procyon will have Rank more than double Versch's (on a hyper-exponential scale). Procyon will also have access to its full suite of weapons and Curse-based special attacks. This doesn't even mention the tactical advantage of deploying a shroud...
 
zinay said:
I kinda thought the plan was to try to buy OaF II. I'm pretty sure we've met the requirements and the effects of OaF III are likely quite good.
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Sword in the Stone is a more thematically appropriate advancement for this update, it is literally an EFB for dealing with "the unforgivable action(s) of an external aggressor".

OaF III gives mental contamination and is probably focused on military matters. Sword should give enough power to win, and also do a bunch of other stuff I won't go into because Rihaku said not to spoil people too much with info from the Patreon. But the upshot is that it's better. It's literally a power about saving your kingdom from a hostile attacker, and then turning your kingdom(s) into a better place.

You want to save these people? You want to be a hero? You want to be able to take huge risks safely? You want to make your kingdom genuinely safe for people? Sword does all these things and does them better.

People vote for what sounds cool to read about, so I'm trying to get other people as fired up as I am about reading Hunger pulling out his sword and being a Big Damn Hero.
 
[X] Call Up

@Conjured Blade, I'd like to call in my marker for you to switch to Call Up. You do have a veto as well, though I would assume it wouldn't go against your priorities considering it's the compromise option.
 
I'm currently voting for both plot options + Aggressive Research. If anyone has strong opinions then I'm open to selling my vote while the race is still pretty close.

Legacy-style Zampano Vote Marker has been called. Market operations are closed for this update cycle.
 
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I have been thinking. I thought I could walk off this thread into a normal life...but here I am, surrounded by death, arguing philosophy with death gang members. I told myself that my choices were about Synergy, protecting Hunger...but I was wrong.
I learned that trying to kill Gisena felt good, really good. The story and picks after "A Wind full of Knives"...they helped me forget the devil inside, but who am I kidding. I hate Gisena, I was born to vote to kill her. The bit about being rational and calculating? I guess I needed something to keep the Ripper in check while I was knee deep in vote debates.
But this week has been a wake-up call to what I really believe - Gisena must die.

[X] Hold the Line
 
Tyrant_Rayne said:
Hey you remember that marker I got from your bet way back? Yeah I'm calling it in. Vote Call up and nothing else.
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Thy will be done. (I feel like the activation of a Legacy-style marker deserves more fanfare, like a magical girl style transformation... but this is what you get. I hope you've enjoyed your experience with Zampano Agglomerated Municipal Polling And Neighborhood Operations. Enjoy the rest of your day!)

((Also: Burning a legacy marker to prevent me from voting for Sixth Sign is a bold play.))

[x] Call Up
 
Sharkey_smt said:
We can get Sixth sign in the Realm of Evening. We can just generate tonnes of platinium and let our cloak eat it. Way easier than sacrificing Rank.
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Sure can! I'm not mad about it, but I was surprised Tyrant thought this was worth a marker. I guess he wanted me to be contractually prohibited from pointing out that the blood-sorcery element would also involve giving our allies Ring of Blood-Tier regeneration abilities...

I'll try to put together a Call Up vs Hold the Line argument by tomorrow night. Not sure what the timeline is on this particular update cycle.
 
Hold The Line Chads, use your markers. The time of victory is at hand, let's force the cowards into the light.
@Rah13 I denounced you once because you did not force DSB to switch votes, do you want to be welcome back into the New AST times? Call the marker and let hounds of war roam the thread once again.
@Talace you have marker for the archivist who betrayed the Praxis, force him to vote for something he hates.

Now, this is it! This is the time to choose! Die and be free of pain or live and fight your sorrow!
Now is the time to shape your stories! Your fate is in your hands!
 
Sharkey_smt said:
I have been thinking. I thought I could walk off this thread into a normal life...but here I am, surrounded by death, arguing philosophy with death gang members. I told myself that my choices were about Synergy, protecting Hunger...but I was wrong.
I learned that trying to kill Gisena felt good, really good. The story and picks after "A Wind full of Knives"...they helped me forget the devil inside, but who am I kidding. I hate Gisena, I was born to vote to kill her. The bit about being rational and calculating? I guess I needed something to keep the Ripper in check while I was knee deep in vote debates.
But this week has been a wake-up call to what I really believe - Gisena must die.

[X] Hold the Line
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But she hasn't even made a +30% Attack Speed Grace yet?
 
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