Hmmph... this junior is a good seed [Cultivation Management Quest]

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Hrrrrm.

HRRRRRRRRM.

What if I just plopped him in a horror setting? I feel like if endless torture because the setting is out to get him doesn't do the trick, I'm gonna have to shelve him and restart with a slightly less annoying character.

From what I understand, the Secret Realms we have access to have to be accessed voluntarily. I want, otoh, one of those 'and then he woke up and oh shit, a monster was trying to eat his face-' kind of openings and then just endless survival horror and maybe meeting up with other survivors that have spent years trapped in this mirror dimension.
That sounds pretty interesting.

Perhaps the 'loner outcast' is forced to work with others to survive in a death world?

Maybe you could try and work in some cosmic horror about him having to come to terms with life in an alien and unknown environment, where everything that exists is designed to kill you?

I've never really written horror, but it sounds like it could work.
 
That sounds pretty interesting.

Perhaps the 'loner outcast' is forced to work with others to survive in a death world?

Maybe you could try and work in some cosmic horror about him having to come to terms with life in an alien and unknown environment, where everything that exists is designed to kill you?

I've never really written horror, but it sounds like it could work.

If I understand the rules of the curse correctly, killing a Golden Devil actually improves the luck of someone (who isn't a Golden Devil) so there's going to be some tension there as survivors do the mental math on his continued utility and just straight up ganking him for luck points.

I think I'll start small scale, at least.

Horror isnt that easy to do, especially since youd be writing within his head @FixerUpper

Straight Horror is tough, but survival horror is like Adventure's grittier, less forgiving cousin. I think it's doable, especially as smart characters lend themselves better to problem-solving where the problems are more intense and less tractable and things not going their way are par for the course.
 
Hrrrrm.

HRRRRRRRRM.

What if I just plopped him in a horror setting? I feel like if endless torture because the setting is out to get him doesn't do the trick, I'm gonna have to shelve him and restart with a slightly less annoying character.

From what I understand, the Secret Realms we have access to have to be accessed voluntarily. I want, otoh, one of those 'and then he woke up and oh shit, a monster was trying to eat his face-' kind of openings and then just endless survival horror and maybe meeting up with other survivors that have spent years trapped in this mirror dimension.
Personally, i think the Trials will allow for something like this. After all, he just has stories about the Trials to go by, totally different from experiencing it himself. What better way for his arrogance to be crushed then by showing him that regardless of all his tricks he can't beat a Trial hunter? That he can barely survive or that he only survive because the hunter after him deemed that he isn't worth any karma?

It would be a nice contrast especially if you emphasis the horror aspect of being chased down relentlessly, of any tricks being seen through and his companions being picked off one by one until when it comes to him, he's left as just not worth it

For added drama, it can be his clan members that are picked off, including that cousin he dueled with who when the chips come in, stood up to defend his Kin
 
Personally, i think the Trials will allow for something like this. After all, he just has stories about the Trials to go by, totally different from experiencing it himself. What better way for his arrogance to be crushed then by showing him that regardless of all his tricks he can't beat a Trial hunter? That he can barely survive or that he only survive because the hunter after him deemed that he isn't worth any karma?

It would be a nice contrast especially if you emphasis the horror aspect of being chased down relentlessly, of any tricks being seen through and his companions being picked off one by one until when it comes to him, he's left as just not worth it

For added drama, it can be his clan members that are picked off, including that cousin he dueled with who when the chips come in, stood up to defend his Kin

I don't know enough about the trials to write them though. That's the main sticking point right now regarding them.
 
occi allows players to swap good seeds and to kill their old good seed off in the process. You could ask him to do so.
 
Straight Horror is tough, but survival horror is like Adventure's grittier, less forgiving cousin. I think it's doable, especially as smart characters lend themselves better to problem-solving where the problems are more intense and less tractable and things not going their way are par for the course.
You're in for a rude awakening then. It's not two genres lowering the bar of difficulty for one another, its managing to do two at the same time without sacrificing either ones strengths
 
Year 80 End - Council Meeting
Manuel pressed his fingertips against his skull. Things had not gone as he had hoped.

The problem with war boiled down to this: while he had technically won, and the Devil Bees had made no more moves, the damage to the Clan's command structure would make them far easier prey than he would've liked in the upcoming Trials.

Time to do what they could. The last Trials had been disastrous, losing a third of the Clan's cultivators. Still, in their current condition, they could probably hope for no better.

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There are basically four Mechanics in this quest.

(1) Choices. Your Clan Council will ask you to make a call on something. Mostly they won't do this - they're competent enough to handle things on their own, but sometimes they will. You'll see 0-2 of these per turn, on average. They're usually pretty straight-up binary choices.

(2) Focuses. You choose in general what the Clan should focus on for the next 20 years. Building up for war? Training new disciples? Carving more arrays? More trade? Focuses don't prevent you from doing everything else, it's more 'here's the one thing we should really get done'. Focuses are mainly mediated by your personal skill levels and specialities.

(3) Actions. What you, personally, do. Usually mediated by skills, but often by Cultivation level - especially when it comes to combat. You can always Write In Actions. In fact, writing in more complex and well-thought out Actions will positively increase your chances of success.

(4) Purchases. What wealth the Clan has, and what your Council want you to spend it on. They'll usually come to you with the thing they want most. No micromanagement, just 'here is the big-ticket item I want'. These will often (but not always) persist between turns. Wealth is expressed in terms of Years of Income Saved. You can take as many of these as you can pay for! Keep in mind, though, if you spend all your money, you won't have it in future for dire situations.

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Manuel walked into the now-expanded clan headquarters. Three tables, each offering new protections against mental effects and poisons. It made it a little easier to check his Elders for mental corruption and subtle poisons without potentially activating them. He had been exhausted these past twenty years, and made little enough progress in his cultivation. No chairs again, but this was due to an assassination attempt where a Jingshen Clan trader had sold them a Two Thousand Year Spirit Ironoak Branch to forge into chairs, but had secretly poisoned it with a Qi-dispersing poison at Nascent Soul level. Nothing deadly, but simply capable of weakening his upper echelons. If they'd sat on those chairs for years they might have lost an entire stage of cultivation each.

Almost certainly a move from Old Jingshen, testing the waters after his show of weakness in front of Lady Jiao. He'd responded in kind, with a Eyesocket Wasp hidden inside a lamp as a gift, which to the eye looked like a Qi-enhancing Treasure. When lit, it consumed the Qi of the cultivator and produced more wasps, each seeking to eat the eyes of cultivators. They'd survive, but be drastically weakened for decades.

This had gone poorly for Old Jingshen, who had the poor luck of having a greedy Core Formation Elder attempt to use it to boost his personal branch of the family without having it properly checked first. Last he heard almost five hundred Foundation Establishment cultivators had been blinded, eyes eaten out by voracious wasps - and the cost to heal them would be significant.

He'd sent a letter containing his condolences of course, and thanking him for the beautiful Ironoak Branch.

Hopefully the message would be sufficiently clear.

Around stood his Councillors, each a skilled and valuable piece on the gameboard. They worked poorly together, one of their number having died. Integrating so quickly was no easy task, and the new Protostrator had no time to work well with his fellows. The new Elder of War was extremely competent, but old - managing a military needed to safeguard tens of millions of people with a decimated upper command was extraordinarily difficult, especially with a conflict against a superior enemy coming up soon.

"Report."

Manuel's voice was like a hundred small wind chimes forged from brass, and groaned at the end of his word, the sharpness of the 't' like snapping swords. These Elders knew the process now, but were uneasy, wary of the war to come.

First was Euphrosyne Sarantapechos, a Great Circle Core Formation Elder. She had broken through over forty years ago, and was a valuable combat resource as well as the Clan's best hope at a new Nascent Soul. She was Stratopedarches, or in more common terms, the Elder of Administration. To her fell the duties of managing mines, herbs, cities, camps - all manner of resources flowed through her hands. In the last twenty years she had spent much time developing her medicines, preparing as many measures as might be prepared to help save her juniors. To Manuel's mind, she was the first Core Formation Elder he had seen in two centuries who had even a slight chance of breaking through to Nascent Soul. A tremendous talent.

"Archegetes. Obviously in terms of wealth things have gone reasonably well. We have twenty-one full years of income saved. I would recommend not overspending, we will require much wealth to recover after the Trials."

Second was Kleisthenes Sarantapechos, a Mid Core Formation Elder. Euphrosyne's twin sister, though less talented in cultivation. She cultivated a rare Yang attribute technique, and went by a male name, and wore a male body to aid in her cultivation. For her, if she had not cultivated her Yang technique - she never would have risen into Core Formation. Such a thing was uncommon among your Clan, but not unknown. She is the Hetaireiarches, or in common terms, the Elder of Diplomacy. To her fell the duties of managing external powers and other Nascent Souls. She often complained about her lack of talent, and she and Manuel were reasonable friends. Of late she had begun to recover their old friendship, one before he had become Archegetes. They had not fallen out, but spent less time with one another - in the twenty years preceding and after the Trials there was little time for friendship.

"Archegetes. I am unsure of whether this is a good idea, but... Strength Purity Sect is offering an exchange. In return for a cessation on their tolls to the healing Oasis in Jingshen territory for sixty years, they are offering a large number of resources to the Flood Dragon Gang, and are willing to stand guard over one of their Core Formation cultivators who is looking to potentially step into Nascent Soul. Unofficially, of course. Officially we will be forced to give a little face against their strength, and afterwards they will assist their honorable Flood Dragon allies against the Demonic monsters for an unrelated reason."

[ ] Accept the Deal

Will reduce income by 1-3 Wealth per turn for 3 turns (amount depends on the War). 20% chance of a Flood Dragon Gang Early Nascent Soul emerging next turn.

[ ] Reject the Deal

No change.


"Firstly, the Demonic Altar attacked and looted the core strength of the Gemstone Justice Sect, seizing massive wealth. After this, however, Strength Purity Sect has won a significant series of battles against the Demonic Altar, but has a great many wounded. While this is usually the case in these wars and we expect Strength Purity Sect to win the vast majority of the battles, they have done better than expected. Demonic Altar Sect has been retreating on all fronts after their assault on Gemstone Justice, though the war is a very long way from over. It is hard to know how their newfound wealth will impact things. Noble Knowledge Sect tried to break the Poison-Crushing Siege, but this was a trick. They slew over a hundred thousand cultivators from the Poison-Crushing Siege, mostly from the Bear Enslavement Sect. The reinforcements for Strength Purity Sect are growing less."

Third was Nikephoros Theophylaktos, a Great Circle Core Formation Elder. He is a simple man to all appearances, speaking little. He is the Parakoimomenos, or in common terms, the Elder of Intrigue. You had trained him personally, and found his skills acceptable. Previously you held his position, but he is now quite experienced at the task. Though he had been your assistant for almost a century, he has begun to assert his own way of doing things. To him falls the duties of espionage, sabotage, and assassination. While he was your apprentice, you are building a new friendship where a master and disciple relationship once existed.

"Archegetes. Incredibly productive. The Devil Bees are in a civil war, as the returning cultivators are set upon by the majority faction who remain, those bloodied by war fighting the fatter and lazier cultivators in higher positions. Two Nascent Souls oversee the war, but they permit it within certain bounds. Already fifty thousand are dead, and that number might go as high as three hundred thousand before order is restored. Normally such wars last for forty to eighty years, which is to our advantage. However, once they fight and consolidate I expect a more unified Devil Bee Sect to begin raids en masse, though more likely in the south than to us. I have news on Lady Jiao, as well. She has negotiated to use a Core Formation Elder from the Saber Palace as a cultivation cauldron - a non-Blood Path form where she merely drains Qi and he survives - but it should enhance her progress considerably, due to immense compatibility in their bloodlines. I believe I can have him killed if you desire as he passes through our lands."

[ ] Kill Him

Almost certain to succeed given your information, though even with your Dao of Darkness bent upon the matter to hide it you may be found out. Only a ~20% chance, you estimate, but if you are discovered Lady Jiao will wreak vengeance upon your lands proportionally. You can expect to lose fifty or sixty thousand cultivators before she is satiated in such a case - or have to pay perhaps twenty or so years of Clan income as reparations.

[ ] Let Him Live

More dangerous in the long-term, as it strengthens Jingshen Clan, but no risk of massive retaliation now.


Fourth came Staurakios Palaiologos, a Late Core Formation Elder. He is Chartoularios Tou Kanikleiou, or in simpler terms, the Master of Disciples. He picks out good seeds, gives training and assistance, and manages the core of the Clan Contribution Board for Qi Condensation and Foundation Building disciples in times of peace. Lately, he has been complaining about the foolishness of all the new disciples, though you can tell he is happier than he has been in decades.

"Archegetes. Numbers on track to reach full capacity by the Trials. Little more to say."

Lastly was Heraclius Staurakius, a Great Circle Core Formation Elder. He is Protostrator, leader of your armies. One of your precious Core Formation cultivators in the Great Circle, Heraclius has stalled cultivation-wise. He is an exceptional commander, but he is old. At 900, he will only be capable of command for another 80 years or so. He is the best commander available by a significant margin, and the most experienced, but taking him on as a commander will mean replacing him before too long - discontinuity of command is where the Legions are the weakest. In the short-term, though, he is the best available to you - a little more skilled than Aikaterine was, even.

Heraclius speaks, a gravelled voice coming from a throat that had been cut more than once.

"Archegetes. I am coming to terms with military command of the Clan. I cannot possibly allow any operations beyond preparing for the Trials unless the matter is desperate. I could conduct them, but the weakness..."

You run your tongue over your teeth and think.

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Currently the Clan has 21 Wealth.
The Clan saves 7 Wealth per turn (+2 from last turn. +1 from new tariffs for wounded cultivators travelling to the Jingshen Oasis, +1 from new territories being developed).

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What should the Clan focus on?

[ ] Building Bridges (Write-in target) - You should make more allies. Choose a target on the map and aim to have their relations with you increased. Give gifts, exchange assistance, aim for strategic marriages.

[ ] Intrigue (Write-in target) - You should learn about another clan entirely. Spend Spirit Stones like water in the plains and find out everything you can. Strengths. Weaknesses, places to strike, rebels, and so on and so forth.

[ ] Raiding (Write-in target) - Better to weaken an enemy. Send teams of cultivators to go raid an enemy for resources and to kill them where possible. Minor conflicts, with minor rewards. At best, you can seize minor territorial gains. This will worsen your relations, of course. Gains widely variable Wealth (0-10, excluding crits). May seize territory and gain Income in extreme cases. Loses Cultivators - around 5,000 Qi Condensation cultivators, 50 Foundation Establishment cultivators, and potentially 1 Core Formation Elder.

[ ] War (Write-in target) - Simply invade. Strike with all your might and seize territory. Kill cultivators. Requires your personal attention to prevent Nascent Souls simply obliterating your forces. Uses your personal Action for the turn. War will open a set of new sub-turns.

[ ] Increasing Wealth - More trade, more mines, more growth. Aim to find more Spirit Stones, tax more from traders, whatever works to increase your Clan Wealth. Increases Wealth by an average of 5.

[ ] Training Soldiers - Raising Disciples to higher Realms is all well and good, but training them to be perfect members of Formations is better. Ensure your Clan is trained and ready for war. Your readiness to go to war will increase significantly, though this fades over time.

[ ] Fortifying (Write-in territory, ally or vassal) - Spend Clan manpower and soldiers to build new fortifications against outside enemies. New Arrays, help train new cultivators in lesser Formations to defend their lands, and so on. Will also strengthen a vassal or ally if chosen, and increase relations with them. Increases defenses in the chosen territory, ally, or vassal.

[ ] Write-in

What will you do?

[ ] Hunt An Enemy (Write-In) - Why not? Hunt down enemies, see if you can kill someone. Usually used against an opposing Nascent Soul. Potentially very dangerous.

[ ] Weaken An Enemy (Write-In Faction) - Choose a faction, and use your Nascent Soul strength to simply sneak in and do damage. A little underhanded and shameful, but what do you care for the views of the Righteous Path? Potentially dangerous.

[ ] Assist A Faction (Write-in Faction) - Use your personal strength to assist an ally of some kind. Potentially dangerous.

[ ] Economic Activity - Carve arrays, scribe useful cultivation techniques onto scrolls, hunt down useful opportunities that might be dangerous to a Core Formation Elder. Make some money for the Clan.

[ ] Lecturing - You can simply lecture your many juniors on cultivation. Spend your time helping them grow, using less resources and ensuring better growth for the Clan.

[ ] Write-in

Purchases:

We have twenty-one full years of income (21 Wealth) saved. The Clan cannot go into debt - you can only spend what you have!

Euphrosyne Sarantapechos
wants to...

[ ] Invest in Lifesaving Pills (7 Wealth)

"
Archegetes, buy Spirit Herbs, forge pills. Give every disciple we can a pill of healing, of concealment, what we can. Improve their chances of surviving the Trials uncrippled. It won't help our weakest, but is likely to preserve our stronger disciples."'

Kleisthenes Sarantapechos wants to...

[ ] Build up the Scorpion Road (5 Wealth)

"Archegetes, with another Demon-Annihilating War beginning, we are well off to make friends with the Righteous powers who do not overmuch hate us. Making the Scorpion Road more accessible will increase our income in future, but will also allow us to facilitate trade with a grateful Strength Purity Sect. Given they are the ones who must approve any Righteous expedition through the mountains against us, their goodwill is most valuable. Despite the war coming, I believe this is still a useful longterm strategy and will win us immense goodwill if we assist the Strength Purity Sect with their request in regards to tariffs.'

Nikephoros Theophylaktos wants to...

[ ] Stir up the Devil Bees (5 Wealth)

"With money, hired Blood Path cultivators, and cleverness in picking the right targets, we can extend the Devil Bee civil war. Moreover, if we pay for attacks on hives and bee swarms, we can reduce their ability to tame bees and maintain their mount numbers even if they kill one another. It is of no use to the upcoming trials, but will win us room afterwards."

Staurakios Palaiologos wants to...

[ ] Purchase Broken Eight-Hundred and Eighty-Hundred Technique Cultivation Palace (20 Wealth)

"Archegetes, a rare opportunity has arisen. The Demonic Altar Sect seized a Cultivation Palace from Gemstone Justice Sect, selling to Gao Clan who sold to Yuan Clan. Yuan Clan have no use for it, apparently. Such a Palace can find techniques suited to almost every disciple, helping them forward. This palace is broken, and can only assist Qi Condensation juniors. However, this will offer them new techniques to practice alongside their Formation arts, and will improve their combat power by no insignificant amount. I would wager this would improve the strength of our Qi Condensation juniors outside of mass combat to equal other Sects and Clans, though it would not impact those above that level. Such a permanent increase in our power, however small, is difficult to come by."

Heraclius Staurakius wants to...

[ ] Purchase Formation Plates (5 Wealth)

"Archegetes, I aim to purchase many formation plates and arrays, fortifying key locations more strongly - within the bounds of the Trials. Such fortifications have proven useful in delaying our hunters before, and while they will likely not save the lives of our brave sacrifices in those cities, they will buy time for more disciples to live."
 
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Next up is the new omake reward system for Good Seeds, but I'm doing everything tiny bit by bit to ensure my hands are fine, so it'll likely be 24-48 hours before that post comes up.

tl;dr - Spreadsheet will now be mandatory, come with explicit instructions on how to fill out.
 
"Archegetes. I am unsure of we, but... Strength Purity Sect is offering an exchange. In return for a cessation on their tolls to the healing Oasis in Jingshen territory for sixty years, they are offering a large number of resources to the Flood Dragon Gang, and are willing to stand guard over one of their Core Formation cultivators who is looking to potentially step into Nascent Soul. Unofficially, of course. Officially we will be forced to give a little face against their strength, and afterwards they will assist their honorable Flood Dragon allies against the Demonic monsters for an unrelated reason."

[ ] Accept the Deal

Will reduce income by 1-3 Wealth per turn for 3 turns (amount depends on the War). 20% chance of a Flood Dragon Gang Early Nascent Soul emerging next turn.

[ ] Reject the Deal
Hm, risky. However, it may be worthwhile. After all, these Bees have been a stinger in our side for a longer time than I anticipated. I suppose I underestimated them.
Staurakios Palaiologos wants to...

[ ] Purchase Broken Eight-Hundred and Eighty-Hundred Technique Cultivation Palace (20 Wealth)

"Archegetes, a rare opportunity has arisen. The Demonic Altar Sect seized a Cultivation Palace from Gemstone Justice Sect, selling to Gao Clan who sold to Yuan Clan. Yuan Clan have no use for it, apparently. Such a Palace can find techniques suited to almost every disciple, helping them forward. This palace is broken, and can only assist Qi Condensation juniors. However, this will offer them new techniques to practice alongside their Formation arts, and will improve their combat power by no insignificant amount. I would wager this would improve the strength of our Qi Condensation juniors outside of mass combat to equal other Sects and Clans, though it would not impact those above that level. Such a permanent increase in our power, however small, is difficult to come by."
Buying this right now would be utter foolishness, considering the Trials are at our door and this would wipe out the majority of our savings.

That being said, the benefits that we'd pass up in the process are so good that I could cry, tbh. This sort of improvement is absolutely critical for our Clan, who has difficulty with raising new strong members.
Lastly was Heraclius Staurakius, a Great Circle Core Formation Elder. She is Protostrator, leader of your armies. One of your precious Core Formation cultivators in the Great Circle, Heraclius has stalled cultivation-wise. He is an exceptional commander, but he is old. At 900, he will only be capable of command for another 80 years or so. He is the best commander available by a significant margin, and the most experienced, but taking him on as a commander will mean replacing him before too long - discontinuity of command is where the Legions are the weakest. In the short-term, though, he is the best available to you - a little more skilled than Aikaterine was, even.
Typo. I think that might have been a hold-out from Aikaterine's version.
 
Buying this right now would be utter foolishness
I mean, making our combatants stronger within their realms is one of the ways to cheese the trials, right?
Though, I'm not sure if it would be worth the cost. We would have more Qi Condesers's survive the trials, but we would also lack the funds to recover once they end.
[ ] Kill Him

Almost certain to succeed given your information, though even with your Dao of Darkness bent upon the matter to hide it you may be found out. Only a ~20% chance, you estimate, but if you are discovered Lady Jiao will wreak vengeance upon your lands proportionally. You can expect to lose fifty or sixty thousand cultivators before she is satiated in such a case - or have to pay perhaps twenty or so years of Clan income as reparations.

[ ] Let Him Live

More dangerous in the long-term, as it strengthens Jingshen Clan, but no risk of massive retaliation now.
This one is tough.

We can't afford to let Jingshen clan grow unhindered, but we also can't really afford a big attack or loss of wealth right now.
 
Here we go!

So, my feeling is that we definitely, positively want to take the Strength Purity Sect's bargain here--putting aside the good terms we're establishing, getting our allies back to Great Power status is critical to keeping them from being wiped out.

Secondly, we positively need to take the gamble to fuck up Lady Jiao's scheme. Because the Jingshen has been having too much go right for them lately, and them getting two Mid Nascent Souls equals Game Over for us. If we don't take this gamble, we're conceding another advantage to them when they've already taken a couple.

I think we should also build up the Scorpion Road, combined with our tariff reduction. The two of these should pay off while we're weak from the Trials.

Beyond that? Not sure.
 
Almost certainly a move from Old Jingshen, testing the waters after his show of weakness in front of Lady Jiao. He'd responded in kind, with a Eyesocket Wasp hidden inside a lamp as a gift, which to the eye looked like a Qi-enhancing Treasure. When lit, it consumed the Qi of the cultivator and produced more wasps, each seeking to eat the eyes of cultivators. They'd survive, but be drastically weakened for decades.

This had gone poorly for Old Jingshen, who had the poor luck of having a greedy Core Formation Elder attempt to use it to boost his personal branch of the family without having it properly checked first. Last he heard almost five hundred Foundation Establishment cultivators had been blinded, eyes eaten out by voracious wasps - and the cost to heal them would be significant.

HA! Literally IN THEIR FACE (via their eyes!)
"Archegetes. I am unsure of we, but... Strength Purity Sect is offering an exchange. In return for a cessation on their tolls to the healing Oasis in Jingshen territory for sixty years, they are offering a large number of resources to the Flood Dragon Gang, and are willing to stand guard over one of their Core Formation cultivators who is looking to potentially step into Nascent Soul. Unofficially, of course. Officially we will be forced to give a little face against their strength, and afterwards they will assist their honorable Flood Dragon allies against the Demonic monsters for an unrelated reason."

[ ] Accept the Deal

Will reduce income by 1-3 Wealth per turn for 3 turns (amount depends on the War). 20% chance of a Flood Dragon Gang Early Nascent Soul emerging next turn.

[ ] Reject the Deal

No change.
I will go for Accept. Stronger ties is always good and the fact that they're the ones to initiate means they treating us with respect.
"Firstly, the Demonic Altar attacked and looted the core strength of the Gemstone Justice Sect, seizing massive wealth. After this, however, Strength Purity Sect has won a significant series of battles against the Demonic Altar, but has a great many wounded. While this is usually the case in these wars and we expect Strength Purity Sect to win the vast majority of the battles, they have done better than expected. Demonic Altar Sect has been retreating on all fronts after their assault on Gemstone Justice, though the war is a very long way from over. It is hard to know how their newfound wealth will impact things. Noble Knowledge Sect tried to break the Poison-Crushing Siege, but this was a trick. They slew over a hundred thousand cultivators from the Poison-Crushing Siege, mostly from the Bear Enslavement Sect. The reinforcements for Strength Purity Sect are growing less."
And here we learn why. The Righteous side seemed to have gotten a real bad roll here. But all the more they would want our help.
"Archegetes. Incredibly productive. The Devil Bees are in a civil war, as the returning cultivators are set upon by the majority faction who remain, those bloodied by war fighting the fatter and lazier cultivators in higher positions. Two Nascent Souls oversee the war, but they permit it within certain bounds. Already fifty thousand are dead, and that number might go as high as three hundred thousand before order is restored. Normally such wars last for forty to eighty years, which is to our advantage. However, once they fight and consolidate I expect a more unified Devil Bee Sect to begin raids en masse, though more likely in the south than to us. I have news on Lady Jiao, as well. She has negotiated to use a Core Formation Elder from the Saber Palace as a cultivation cauldron - a non-Blood Path form where she merely drains Qi and he survives - but it should enhance her progress considerably, due to immense compatibility in their bloodlines. I believe I can have him killed if you desire as he passes through our lands."

[ ] Kill Him

Almost certain to succeed given your information, though even with your Dao of Darkness bent upon the matter to hide it you may be found out. Only a ~20% chance, you estimate, but if you are discovered Lady Jiao will wreak vengeance upon your lands proportionally. You can expect to lose fifty or sixty thousand cultivators before she is satiated in such a case - or have to pay perhaps twenty or so years of Clan income as reparations.

[ ] Let Him Live

More dangerous in the long-term, as it strengthens Jingshen Clan, but no risk of massive retaliation now.
I really want to do this.... I mean i know the trials are coming up, but letting the Jingshen continue to grow is really bad and the dude is from Saber Place. So our enemy anyway

[ ] Build up the Scorpion Road (5 Wealth)

"Archegetes, with another Demon-Annihilating War beginning, we are well off to make friends with the Righteous powers who do not overmuch hate us. Making the Scorpion Road more accessible will increase our income in future, but will also allow us to facilitate trade with a grateful Strength Purity Sect. Given they are the ones who must approve any Righteous expedition through the mountains against us, their goodwill is most valuable. Despite the war coming, I believe this is still a useful longterm strategy and will win us immense goodwill if we assist the Strength Purity Sect with their request in regards to tariffs.'
Hmm, i would want to do this. Continue building that rapport with the Strength Purity group/
[ ] Purchase Broken Eight-Hundred and Eighty-Hundred Technique Cultivation Palace (20 Wealth)

"Archegetes, a rare opportunity has arisen. The Demonic Altar Sect seized a Cultivation Palace from Gemstone Justice Sect, selling to Gao Clan who sold to Yuan Clan. Yuan Clan have no use for it, apparently. Such a Palace can find techniques suited to almost every disciple, helping them forward. This palace is broken, and can only assist Qi Condensation juniors. However, this will offer them new techniques to practice alongside their Formation arts, and will improve their combat power by no insignificant amount. I would wager this would improve the strength of our Qi Condensation juniors outside of mass combat to equal other Sects and Clans, though it would not impact those above that level. Such a permanent increase in our power, however small, is difficult to come by."
I really really want this. I rather roll the dice on the current Trial that forego this because it's a qualitative improvement for future trials. Who knows if we ever get the wealth to purchase this again, or even if it will come up next turn consider it's a Rare Opportunity. My guess is that if we pass this up it's gone because other groups will snap it up for the power increase.

@occipitallobe just to check, is this only possible this turn ?
 
[ ] Hunt An Enemy (Write-In) - Why not? Hunt down enemies, see if you can kill someone. Usually used against an opposing Nascent Soul. Potentially very dangerous.
is this (Targeting the Cultivator in question) redundant with

[ ] Kill Him

Almost certain to succeed given your information, though even with your Dao of Darkness bent upon the matter to hide it you may be found out. Only a ~20% chance, you estimate, but if you are discovered Lady Jiao will wreak vengeance upon your lands proportionally. You can expect to lose fifty or sixty thousand cultivators before she is satiated in such a case - or have to pay perhaps twenty or so years of Clan income as reparations.
Incidentally?

How this goes will help determine a lot of things going forward.
 
I mean, making our combatants stronger within their realms is one of the ways to cheese the trials, right?
Though, I'm not sure if it would be worth the cost. We would have more Qi Condesers's survive the trials, but we would also lack the funds to recover once they end.
Like i posted, i would go for it. The one thing we have to remember is that the Trials will come again and the next time they do we might not have the same amount of resources as this turn.

For me it's the same reason i had Xiao Yi give Ferenike in @BungieONI Omake. Taking a loss this turn for the chance to improve the odds in all future turns strikes me as more worthwhile. I doubt that the Clan will be utterly wiped out this Trial no matter how bad it goes, so i rather focus on beginning to build up the Clan for future trials.

Essentially throwing everything on this trial itself feels like a waste since we won't know if we can amass the same amount of resources before other trials, so i would rather aim for the longer term improvement

Thinking further, it may synergize with the lecture option because i'm sure Manuel can break it down into terms and ideas our clan can more easily absorb

Incidentally?

How this goes will help determine a lot of things going forward.
Honestly, i wonder if we can stunt the assassination by making it seemed as if the Saber Palace guy was killed for vengeance. If we can somehow spread the news about how they're were behind the Devil Bees, we can maybe divert suspicion by making people think he was killed by someone who lost kin during the wall.
 
Honestly, i wonder if we can stunt the assassination by making it seemed as if the Saber Palace guy was killed for vengeance. If we can somehow spread the news about how they're were behind the Devil Bees, we can maybe divert suspicion by making people think he was killed by someone who lost kin during the wall.
We can figure that out once we figure out the mechanical elements of it.

if we can stack the deck with manuel acting personally then this stuff just becomes all kinds of potentially hilarious
 
However, this will offer them new techniques to practice alongside their Formation arts, and will improve their combat power by no insignificant amount. I would wager this would improve the strength of our Qi Condensation juniors outside of mass combat to equal other Sects and Clans, though it would not impact those above that level.

Some that stood out to me on rereading. This basically covers the disadvantage our QI condensation cultivators had when compared to other groups in individuals.

[ ] Combat Formations - Organising masses of cultivators into powerful combat formations is hard, but is one of the few ways to strike across realms. A Sect that can use many lesser cultivators to fight greater ones is a threat to many. Of course, in situations where you or your disciples are caught alone, you will be vastly weaker.

That actually strikes me as all the more worthwhile because if they can stand a even chance without being in Formations, they won't be as vulnerable when a formation breaks. That will also rollover when they advance so that at higher stages even if they don't have the Foundation establilshment arts, they would be at a even level with other Foundation Establishement cultivators at the early stage.

EDIT: I mean mechnically speaking, it might be a boost to cultivation rolls for our Qi condensation good seeds. And considering the major consensus for the Good Seeds is at least 10th heavenstage, this might help in reducing the time needed to get there
 
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To be fair, techniques valuable for Qi Condensation tend to be basically nothing in Foundation Establishment, and entirely useless by Core Formation.

It's nice for our weakest to get a boost (Which means more will survive to Foundation Establishment), but in the sense that it strengthens our elites, no, it doesn't/
 
Can't techniques from Qi Condensation be built upon and expanded in new realms?

I also think that we should take both 20% risks, but I also think we should pounce on the palace. If not that, then what Alectai said about the Scorpion Road. Diplomacy is our weak point that will pay off immensely in shoring up.
 
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