Taking no personal power here seems pretty horrible. That just leaves even more vulnerable to the backlash of giving up the killing blow that's inherent in the choice. Rank or Vigor seem like the picks for Foment.
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Taking no personal power here seems pretty horrible. That just leaves even more vulnerable to the backlash of giving up the killing blow that's inherent in the choice. Rank or Vigor seem like the picks for Foment.
I thought Fomenting Rebellion was about finding allies to shore up our position? Getting more personal power seems more up Cut's alley.
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[X] Foment Rebellion
[X] Vigor Incarnate
[X] Feat: Shameless
I'm torn between which of these two as the safest options. I'll probably conform to whichever formalAI picks, but for now i am sleepy & also I don't want to miss out on the opportunity to provoke an avalanche of Vigor Votes
[X] Vigor Incarnate
[X] Feat: Shameless
I'm torn between which of these two as the safest options. I'll probably conform to whichever formalAI picks, but for now i am sleepy & also I don't want to miss out on the opportunity to provoke an avalanche of Vigor Votes
We could have an Immortal strike team inbound within the hour as they get their house in order. We don't really have any sort of guarantee there's a big window for us to leisurely rally up support. We need personal power as a hedge so we live long enough to peel off defectors.
They don't get to go back would be my position, once you're on team Hunger it's to the bitter end. We're not just going to sit around here while they consider their options. There's a chance to get on the winning team and you better take it now because it's not coming round again should be the approach I think.
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Strange9
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I can't believe we threw the poor dude's arm at his own energy blast as a defense...
Really got to... hand it... to Hunger.
Really got to... hand it... to Hunger.
I may be wrong, but couldn't we pass our blood buffs off as evidence of ennobling capacity? Many of the latter's benefits are only evident over long periods of time anyway. This seems similar to what you were suggesting (short term inferior ennobling) while enabling other picks.
Been lazy today, all i have is this WIP for Hunger
can't cut through cleanly without more arete
more, more, MORE
can't cut through cleanly without more arete
more, more, MORE
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I think Rank is better not only becuase it still help our recriutment effeorts, but it make the very circumstances align in our favor! All that with more combat power. Remember, Rank is the godstat.
We are going to attacking everywhere though and we can get Gisena and Aeira to contribute too; It's slower but it won't be slow. I don't think they would wait much on a Immortal counter attack anyway. Besides, their civilization is built on the exploitation of a Ring; they don't need to be convinced it's good.
More power=better results.
Projectile
Thinking of Rabbits
- Location
- USA
Cut Through the shell of the Inner Temple and leave a huge hole in it symbolically while buffing people in a huge radius. While flying because why not. At this point I'm more thinking of cool ways to flex, but that's like 40% of the job anyway.
Evening Sky-based propaganda? You've been dimming my stars and I'm not at all pleased by it. We're not strong enough to pull off a proper "you have angered the gods" lol, but basically that.
Let a few attacks bounce off of our Protection? Nah, that's asking for trouble.
Oh! Fuck me, we have some of their classified documents, surely we can take more by force or Aeira, spread all around all the information the higher ups want to keep secret. Information wants to be free, you totalitarian jerkwads! An actually good idea maybe! (Edit: Not at the same time of the lulzy lie plans, obviously)
Evening Sky-based propaganda? You've been dimming my stars and I'm not at all pleased by it. We're not strong enough to pull off a proper "you have angered the gods" lol, but basically that.
Let a few attacks bounce off of our Protection? Nah, that's asking for trouble.
Oh! Fuck me, we have some of their classified documents, surely we can take more by force or Aeira, spread all around all the information the higher ups want to keep secret. Information wants to be free, you totalitarian jerkwads! An actually good idea maybe! (Edit: Not at the same time of the lulzy lie plans, obviously)
LordOfMurder
Bhaal
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Depends on the range and the time scale we're working on. I assumed the option was to go around rabblerousing bringing our recruits with us to gather more recruits until we snowball into success. Then we can just keep the buffs up as we go.
My favourite part is his eye.
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I swear i had deleted that part of my post. Why the hell did i post that?
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Maybe we can win against the immortal if we just pick quickening three times?
I mean we almost one hit kill the marshall with even more agility then even immortal get higher rank then we can cut them down quickly.
Speed is what we need in cut and finish one immortal before other immortal join them.
I mean we almost one hit kill the marshall with even more agility then even immortal get higher rank then we can cut them down quickly.
Speed is what we need in cut and finish one immortal before other immortal join them.
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I'm going back to extreme defense
[X] Cut
[X] Vigor Incarnate
[X] Opalescence
[X] Cut
[X] Vigor Incarnate
[X] Opalescence
Hmm, well, I guess we can just feed them promises for now, that's how most revolutions work anyway.
In that case, can't quite decide between Shameless and Vigor Incarnate. Vigor is lots of useful STATS for the plan ahead, but I'm tickled by the Feat we'd just gotten and what it says about Hunger. It even rhymes with Nameless! Wonder what kind of amazing Advancements it would open up.
Age&Treachery + Apex + Shameless = ???
[X] Foment Rebellion
[X] Vigor Incarnate
[J] Feat: Shameless
In that case, can't quite decide between Shameless and Vigor Incarnate. Vigor is lots of useful STATS for the plan ahead, but I'm tickled by the Feat we'd just gotten and what it says about Hunger. It even rhymes with Nameless! Wonder what kind of amazing Advancements it would open up.
Age&Treachery + Apex + Shameless = ???
[X] Foment Rebellion
[X] Vigor Incarnate
Now you're just making it personal.
[J] Feat: Shameless
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How much time left before the Temple Ring dies? Shatters? Loses everything outside of the power it gave to Hunger? Or any rough equivalent to it being dead.
How long will this rebellion last? Will it be in time? Will there be enough worthwhile dissenters to open up a usable path for Hunger?
Are we going into full trauma mode? Some Tyrant analogue to fight against before we can free the ring?
Just some stuff I don't think I've been able to process so far just yet.
How long will this rebellion last? Will it be in time? Will there be enough worthwhile dissenters to open up a usable path for Hunger?
Are we going into full trauma mode? Some Tyrant analogue to fight against before we can free the ring?
Just some stuff I don't think I've been able to process so far just yet.
I am not sure whether ++Charisma will be better for Rebellion than +0.325 Rank, which does help with social. But, in my eyes more importantly, we really need to start picking +Rank options. They come from Feats, which means they are always pick now or never. They will always compete with more permanent options, but if we always pick those, Hunger will remain a Ranklet until suicidal feats. Alternative means of earning Rank seem rather in the future.
- Location
- US
[X] Foment Rebellion
[X] Vigor Incarnate
[X] Vigor Incarnate
OctarineShrike
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It's tempting but we already have 1 Fierce Quickening. So can only take 2. Maybe 2 Fierce Quickenings and Dominion(War) would work for Cut, I have no idea at this point.
LordOfMurder
Bhaal
- Location
- Australia
Vigor gives CHA for scamming peasants into the rebellion, MIGHT for swording and Protecc for not dying! Such value. Plus synergy with Edeldross Adept! Plus it completely clashes with our build!
[X] Foment Rebellion
[X] Vigor Incarnate
Going with this for now, it would be nice for Hunger to be able to bring something good to this whole situation and if done properly and openly he will be remembered a long time. While their society was paradisiacal in amenities and quality of life, the documents And observations of it we have imply it was rotting in spirit and quite rigid. It was a thing built on both the suffering of the ring and the bloodshed of those drawn by it, and while what we are doing is not unambiguously a good thing perhaps something good can be made of it considering the serious costs their way of life imposed upon others. Maybe we can leave behind a society that while not possessed of the same quality of life and power, is one that is more dynamic and alive than it has ever been since it's founding. It might not have the same advantages as cutting through but I think it is worth it, both for the sake of Hunger and to spread our fame for more rank.
[X] Vigor Incarnate
Going with this for now, it would be nice for Hunger to be able to bring something good to this whole situation and if done properly and openly he will be remembered a long time. While their society was paradisiacal in amenities and quality of life, the documents And observations of it we have imply it was rotting in spirit and quite rigid. It was a thing built on both the suffering of the ring and the bloodshed of those drawn by it, and while what we are doing is not unambiguously a good thing perhaps something good can be made of it considering the serious costs their way of life imposed upon others. Maybe we can leave behind a society that while not possessed of the same quality of life and power, is one that is more dynamic and alive than it has ever been since it's founding. It might not have the same advantages as cutting through but I think it is worth it, both for the sake of Hunger and to spread our fame for more rank.
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Also, Vigor can be gotten at any 2-pick spend points, while Feats are dependent on having worthy enemies! You can't even say it would be worse at the rebellion than Vigor, because Rank is amazing and does literally everything! We are finally at 5 Rank now, don't you all want to put that Uttermost bonus to use? We far more opportunities to get picks than opportunities to get Rank!
Rank does all that and more! Incredible; how could we have passed up on so many of these things!?
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