Hunger is not the only one with curses to mitigate: there is also Verchengorge who is slowly killing Letritzia with Decimation. Other Armaments that we bring into our service later will probably also have curses. While A-DS can help with Hunger's own curses, Renaissance Woman will let Gisena help anyone (who serves us).
A Simple Transaction I
- Thread starter Rihaku
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- Original
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- The Surface Of A Hostile Planet
I see it's time to pull out the big guns if I want Renaissance Woman to win.
Here, have a chibi Letrizia.
Here, have a chibi Letrizia.
Some people are selfish. Instead of posting the drama here as well, so we can
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Not to mention other Graces she could develop to further help Mitigate Curses. If I remember correctly there were potential Graces that could be developed that would help mitigate the curses Seram had.
- Location
- The savanna.
Also, if Gisena gets Total Eclipse then we're not going to. Which means the 1 Arete discount from Edeldross is completely wasted.
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The Laughing One
- Location
- The Voyaging Realm
Huh, guess I'm bad at interpreting posts. And I guess I'll endeavor to be worthy of your trust? Usually the mage builds seem obvious to me...
Not necessary, but I have to say your signature made me smile.
I guess I'll take that, although I'm not sure we vote against each other very often anyways...
I appreciate the offer, but I don't want to change the side I'm on after accepting someone's deal. That seems like it could invite all kinds of chaos and hard feelings.
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Confusion as a Natural State of Being
- Location
- Chicago, IL
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- Any/All
On the contrary, there are some pretty large potential research benefit we could reap if both of us have True Quintessence. Picking up Total Eclipse would not be a waste at all.
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There's a quote where someone talks about operating at a solar-system level and Rihaku says something to the effect of "what kind of weak boss fights do you expect that will be safe with only Solar System level power"
I suspect that the power-level of the Voyaging Realms wildly outscales anything we've even considered in Hunger's first month of time spent as a Cursebearer. Recall that we're at 1e-29% completion of the Geas. The Accursed operates on a timescale that makes a month relatively much shorter than the blink of an eye.
- Location
- Brazil
It's more on the spirit of the thing.
Seram was cursed with being Seram before he ever met the Accursed.
Rihaku
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Hardly the sloppiest we've ever seen!
I think if Ennobling had been equal cost to Vigor Spam, it would have done well. But some short-term bias is both understandable and possibly optimal considering how dangerously Hunger likes to live...
Her enemies would call her a mass murderer! Such is the life of a superweapon pilot.
Catherine was substantially Ranked, yeah. She was the heiress to the Tyrant's crown so she was naturally famous, plus to be worthy of being heir one must be exceptionally talented, diligent and perspicacious. By endgame she was probably in the mid-7s of Rank, only modestly below the Hero / Tyrant.
So far I only checked out updates and had a very occasional look at discussion when I happened to be a tad bored. But now stuff is apparently super close right when I happen to be here so I guess I will cast my first vote.
[X] Renaissance Woman
Hunger himself getting two and a half huge power-ups from a relaxed stay at a hot springs town is just way too ill-fitting.
Any higher entity paying attention to the group is going to move heaven and earth to prevent Hunger from ever reaching one again. Can we really be this cruel to this poor protagonist.
[X] Renaissance Woman
Hunger himself getting two and a half huge power-ups from a relaxed stay at a hot springs town is just way too ill-fitting.
Any higher entity paying attention to the group is going to move heaven and earth to prevent Hunger from ever reaching one again. Can we really be this cruel to this poor protagonist.
I don't really expect to fight solar system scale fights until we have solar system scale power, I can't really see how sprinting that on a completely unprepared hunger and voter base would work.
Saying we need to take pure power right now because of some vague threat we have yet to encounter, when we have already outscaled the next hit of the apocryphal is pretty unconvincing. Especially when flare gives us a significant boost both before and after resuming the azure ring, that in total is pretty equivalent to all defeating.
Making an argument on the basis of threat that is not right in front of us fall pretty flat. Especially when all defeating a effects do not immediately bring us even to solar system level unless I am misinterpreting how strong we are and it's defensive effects are contingent of the strength of our power of ruin which yes it does enhance.
- Location
- USA
- Pronouns
- He/Him
that was planetary scale, not solar, for the record.
Oh yeah, the development of Graces depends on research and development. Gisena could develop a lot of things.
Furthermore, we have an example of two people with True Quintessence.
The Maiden and the Hero of the Manifest Realm.
We could even unlock the version of Graces that the Hero had.
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- Simping for DSB
Your stated concern was
I merely pointed out that we are not in danger of solving everything right this instant. Given the Apocryphal Curse, we are constantly in danger of catastrophe. Grabbing a powerful defensive measure that combines well with other attractive options (like Stranglethorn) makes it so that the thread can finally make votes about what looks interesting instead of trying to Not Die.
If you're unmoved by the fact that picking ten fights with 10% death chance gives us a 1 in 3 chance* of the quest ending then there's nothing else I can say that will reach you.
*It's actually worse than 1 in 3 because tough fights lead to a death-spiral of major complications.
- Location
- Pindorama
That only works if the interesting times stay combat-based, which we know is not the case. A supernatural social operator who has True Quintessence covers much more problems that can be caused by Apocryphal than mere pure power!
- Location
- USA
- Pronouns
- He/Him
On the other hand, securing Gisena's Curse Mitigation will make us face 10% death chance from the Apocryphal Curse less often.
A supernatural social operator who has True Quintessence also offers total 20% Apo mitigation before she starts powering it up; and she'll be powering it up, thanks to her own progression being really goddamn great.
Pick up a Magic-Defeating after that, a combat-relevant pick that does folds into a future EFB, and voila, 25% mitigation.
Pick up a Magic-Defeating after that, a combat-relevant pick that does folds into a future EFB, and voila, 25% mitigation.
Flare build is pretty good for that tho; it has Pillars as next planned EFB, after which is explodes in power at pretty hilarious rate.
.. man, it's way too good.
[X] The Ring of Power: Crimson Flare
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- Simping for DSB
Tru, but Zfglx is a Crimson voter, which has a greater death chance than even the 2 stances from Maximum Safety.
Renaissance Woman is my second choice; I'll be jumping to RW if it becomes clear that ADS will be eliminated.
In terms of solving everything I was referring to the temple, and I do not find it likely for us to die here so why vote not die? Though I suspect you disagree and that is fair. Unfortunately, good as your points are I don't really believe it we take this not dying option now we won't need to take things later particularly if the quest scales up as you suggest it will. It is likely even in light of our propensity for risk taking. Not to mention doing this locks us out of trinity which is very displeasing since that is currently the most interesting thing for me. Also I am not convinced that people won't just follow the synergy all the way down the sword rabbit hole.
I believe that we will be fine if we take flare now and ADS later, he'll we may be able to buy flare and then a stance which would be safer than last votes maximum safety option. All I am saying is ADS is not a necessity at this moment in time and thus we should lock in trinity with the still very good flare and get a stance ore something and were likely all good. I feel very much the same about this as I did about uttermost namely that as good as it is we can stand to wait on it till it will not actively hurt our other plans to take it and it will not co-op the effort we have put to other options.
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- Location
- The Surface Of A Hostile Planet
you know what has more anime power than one chibi?
two chibis
behold, Aeria
put it all on Renaissance Woman, baybeeeeeeeee
two chibis
behold, Aeria
put it all on Renaissance Woman, baybeeeeeeeee
If we continue to aim for EFB we need ways to stockpile Arete to make the purchases. Apocryphal Curse means that we will regularly be facing foes that would provide a challenge for us and will inevitably require purchases of options that would require a great deal of Arete to keep up.
Having a stage 2 mitigation would be wonderful for such situations.
Having a stage 2 mitigation would be wonderful for such situations.