LordOfMurder
Bhaal
- Location
- Australia
Exactly, our stats are much higher than our rank and Silver multiplies our stats. So it currently gives way more bang for our buck.
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A Simple Transaction I
- Thread starter Rihaku
- Start date
- Original
- Location
- Omniverse #1345
That's... not how that works.
- Location
- USA
- Pronouns
- He/Him
true; my main point is that I don't think we can use social to seize the Ring itself
ImperatorV
The Laughing One
- Location
- The Voyaging Realm
No, that's exactly how that works.
Rank is more valuable the more we have of it. We don't have a lot of rank, so further rank is less valuable.
Silver multiplies stats. It's therefore more valuable the more stats you have. We have a lot of stats.
- Location
- Pindorama
Can't replicate the effects of Rank with just more stats though; It's a conceptual effect that disdains the physical. We want tons of both, of course, but more Rank increases our effectiveness in a significant way even with tons of stats; the world can always be more in your favor.
- Location
- USA
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Progression does give us means to convert stats to higher forms of power, though, such as our Strength scaling our Power of Ruin. If we can get Silver then develop an effect like that, we'd see a serious increase in power.
- Location
- Pindorama
But we already have Rank however, so there's no need to gamble on an additional advancement.
- Location
- USA
- Pronouns
- He/Him
we also already have a ton of agility, though
- Location
- Pindorama
We don't have a way for Agility to replicate the effects of Rank nor have seen any Advancements in this vein, which is my point.
Talace
It must be raining somewhere else!
Anyone have an opinion as for who I should shift to? I was only really interested in lore about Gondar's friendship, and I awoke to his options' unfortunate demise. Alternatively, I'm also willing to swap from Gondar to an encounter of someone's choice if they flip from Evening Sky to Flare!
Aabcehmu
Confusion as a Natural State of Being
- Location
- Chicago, IL
- Pronouns
- Any/All
Finally got around to actually putting Echo Conjuration, Soteriological Conqueror, and 360 Blue Runes onto the Quester Magics sheet. We're still missing descriptions for Valiance and Unelementalism though! Plus I'm sure there are still questers who would like magic but haven't gotten one yet.
- Location
- Omniverse #1345
That's like saying it's more valuable to make a ship 50 feet longer instead of patching the gaping hole in the middle of it.
- Location
- Canada
It depends what your level of risk tolerance is. Selune spends 4 Arete but, if diplomacy fail with Avecarn, that could forces us to spend considerably more Arete. I don't think a fight with Avecarn would actually kill us, but only because we can flash-buy the Stances. We could also theoretically flash-buy Flare if we somehow got enough Arete for that before the fight but even that wouldn't be as good against that specific opponent as flash-buying the right Stances:
So the question is whether you feel like playing it safe and spending 4 Arete or you'd prefer to gamble and possibly having to spend 14 on Stances to survive. Me, I'm playing it safe.
[X] High Marshall Avecarn
[X] The Ring of Power: Crimson Flare
[X] The Ring of Power: Crimson Flare
- Location
- Pindorama
You know, there's at least the update where we meet Shadowcord and another where the negotiations could fail and we'd enter battle. It's definitely possible to generate the 8 missing Arete should things go south with Avecarn. And then by having another power EFB, we'd be much safer.
More to the point, I think the risks with Avecarn are a bit overstated. We don't want to fight, and we can say this truthfully. He doesn't either, and we need to stress that a fight would be disadvantageous for the both of us when we can just come peacefully. There's no need to complicate this, especially given his higher Rank.
More to the point, I think the risks with Avecarn are a bit overstated. We don't want to fight, and we can say this truthfully. He doesn't either, and we need to stress that a fight would be disadvantageous for the both of us when we can just come peacefully. There's no need to complicate this, especially given his higher Rank.
Pillars grind can prepare us for the contest. The only long-term EFB we have seen for the Ring is dead but Dreaming, which is ??? at this point. Getting as many progression enhancements as fast as possible is the best for our future.
TwistedJester
Tired Lurker King
- Location
- Hell
Screw it, @DkArthas you are getting a magic system, because I can't stop this plot bunny
Archetypical Classhood:
A seemingly generic magical system with a twist. Archetypes are established through societal, and systemic propagation of a set of developed abilities. The Warrior Archetype was developed from close ranged combatants developing abilities helpful to their way of waging war, for example the ability to accelerate the self at high speeds in order to impact ranged enemies, and the same general set of abilities being more or less to by other similar fighters. This all came ahead fo the Archetype being engraved into the magical system itself due to repeated use, and development of the same general abilities. A consequence of this is that similar abilities from differing warriors would instead be developed into the exact same one due to the system guiding their actions. This leads to barbarians of the far north having the same abilities as noble knights. While the abilities may be the same which ones being developed may be chosen leading to some variety within a archetype.
To initiate into a Archetype basic general knowledge of the Archetype, and development of abilities similar of those in the Archetype will cause the system to kick in aiding the newbie and causing their abilities to be more along the lines of the Archetype. In fact, this is so easy that a random farmer could become a Mage by simply willing his magical energy to become fire, and they will spontaneously create a perfect firebolt.
The advantages that come from this sort of system leads to faster learning speeds due to working with the system, standardized magical abilities, less of a need for talent, and the inability to lose magical knowledge due to it being engraved into the system itself. The disadvantages come from being so limited by the archetype, and the system favoring pre existing techniques leading to less of a need to innovate.
The archetypes themselves last til a threshold of power which the previous pinnacle carrier of that archetype was stuck on, a new legend could very easily at that point create his own abilities to be engraved into that archetype, and thus the Archetypes advanced nigh endlessly from new trailblazers.
While new abilities may be developed into new Archetypes those tend to be less popular due to slower rate of learning and need to create on your own while the cultures of the world, and magical system itself incentivizes usage of preexisting Archetypes and stunting innovation from the average person leading to only the truly passionate, and talented willing to develop their own Archetypes from scratch.
There are new developments however, of people developing what's been referred to as sub Archetypes where the people in a Archetype take similar abilities to advance in extensively creating a miniature Archetype in that existing Archetype.
There are also rumors of a man who by sheer force of will irrevocably broke off a piece of the engraving of the Paladin Archetype to create one based around death. But, those are merely rumors, after all such a feat would require someone pushed to the very limits of their Archetype to grasp it themselves in a state of extreme mental turmoil, and warp it with outside aid.
I'm still feeling that drive, anyone else want one?
Archetypical Classhood:
A seemingly generic magical system with a twist. Archetypes are established through societal, and systemic propagation of a set of developed abilities. The Warrior Archetype was developed from close ranged combatants developing abilities helpful to their way of waging war, for example the ability to accelerate the self at high speeds in order to impact ranged enemies, and the same general set of abilities being more or less to by other similar fighters. This all came ahead fo the Archetype being engraved into the magical system itself due to repeated use, and development of the same general abilities. A consequence of this is that similar abilities from differing warriors would instead be developed into the exact same one due to the system guiding their actions. This leads to barbarians of the far north having the same abilities as noble knights. While the abilities may be the same which ones being developed may be chosen leading to some variety within a archetype.
To initiate into a Archetype basic general knowledge of the Archetype, and development of abilities similar of those in the Archetype will cause the system to kick in aiding the newbie and causing their abilities to be more along the lines of the Archetype. In fact, this is so easy that a random farmer could become a Mage by simply willing his magical energy to become fire, and they will spontaneously create a perfect firebolt.
The advantages that come from this sort of system leads to faster learning speeds due to working with the system, standardized magical abilities, less of a need for talent, and the inability to lose magical knowledge due to it being engraved into the system itself. The disadvantages come from being so limited by the archetype, and the system favoring pre existing techniques leading to less of a need to innovate.
The archetypes themselves last til a threshold of power which the previous pinnacle carrier of that archetype was stuck on, a new legend could very easily at that point create his own abilities to be engraved into that archetype, and thus the Archetypes advanced nigh endlessly from new trailblazers.
While new abilities may be developed into new Archetypes those tend to be less popular due to slower rate of learning and need to create on your own while the cultures of the world, and magical system itself incentivizes usage of preexisting Archetypes and stunting innovation from the average person leading to only the truly passionate, and talented willing to develop their own Archetypes from scratch.
There are new developments however, of people developing what's been referred to as sub Archetypes where the people in a Archetype take similar abilities to advance in extensively creating a miniature Archetype in that existing Archetype.
There are also rumors of a man who by sheer force of will irrevocably broke off a piece of the engraving of the Paladin Archetype to create one based around death. But, those are merely rumors, after all such a feat would require someone pushed to the very limits of their Archetype to grasp it themselves in a state of extreme mental turmoil, and warp it with outside aid.
I'm still feeling that drive, anyone else want one?
- Location
- Pindorama
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Enohthree
Hypersane
For tactics regarding Avecarn, maybe we can play up the fact that we just left recently?
"So I figured I was throwing my life into jeopardy without consummate reward, but when I left to try less lethal things there's this Moon Call thing? Basically, can you reward me for putting my life at risk in a way that doesn't subject me to this Moon Call? It's very annoying and nerfs my Rank, which is something I've worked quite hard on and risked a lot to get to where I have it."
"So I figured I was throwing my life into jeopardy without consummate reward, but when I left to try less lethal things there's this Moon Call thing? Basically, can you reward me for putting my life at risk in a way that doesn't subject me to this Moon Call? It's very annoying and nerfs my Rank, which is something I've worked quite hard on and risked a lot to get to where I have it."
Projectile
Thinking of Rabbits
- Location
- USA
If you're offering, it would make me really happy!
Honestly I went to bed with expectation that Gondar would win but Selune was gaining some traction. I wake up 7 hours later and I see Selune in the lead and the salt just skyrocketed. People complain that we have to buy a stance if Avecarn fail but at least we will have it with us for the rest of the story. If Selune social fails we just wasted 4 Arete. This is UNACCEPTABRU