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A Simple Transaction I
- Thread starter Rihaku
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- Original
- Location
- Brazil
While normally i would argue against grabbing a full potential EFB, it's likely that we can grab Total Eclipse within 2 updates. Risky, since it gives immediate power, but much safer than the ring, and both of them have comparable potential.(Total eclipse being a seemingly full potential EFB and Ruling Ring a mixed type)
We are only 6 arete away from that, 8 with Edeldross Adept. I'm...actually unsure of how viable this is, and me pushing for it will likely vary depending on the result of this update, but i think it's worth thinking about.
We can also grab it at any moment due to the hot springs, so no need to rush it.
We are only 6 arete away from that, 8 with Edeldross Adept. I'm...actually unsure of how viable this is, and me pushing for it will likely vary depending on the result of this update, but i think it's worth thinking about.
I'm pretty sure that Uttermost cancels that, unfortunately. But i'm not gonna argue against pillars, it is an incredibly powerful option, but i think it's ill suited for the temple itself.
We can also grab it at any moment due to the hot springs, so no need to rush it.
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- Location
- Omniverse #1345
I suspect within the realm of evening Pillars of Creation takes precedence. And it's not a true mitigation.
I agree we should wait until after the temple, but I don't see any other EFB for the Cloak we can get that are actually useful for it.
LordOfMurder
Bhaal
- Location
- Australia
Adept is actually less likely to need the stances since it boosts all our combat stats where Shadowlord only boosts agi. In a straight fight Adept is probably significantly stronger.
Yes and no. She probably wouldn't be very content with cash money if we drained her powers out in the middle of the Voyaging realm. Doing so somewhere she can actually benefit from the money and survive without surgecraft, sure.
I can imagine after a few life and death battles with us, she'll have a much better grasp if she wants this lifestyle as well.
It might be her true calling, but she just as well might thank us for the out.
LordOfMurder
Bhaal
- Location
- Australia
The logic of this implies that we'd be forced into taking a sword EFB to survive upon taking Adept. Given that Adept has stronger combat power than Shadowlord wouldn't this mean that we'd just die if we take it since we then wouldn't be able to afford an EFB?
And we're about to get either advanced powers over Edeldross, the energy of the Penultimate - or Shadows, which are cast by things. Convenient, no?
Which is pretty irrelevant to the actual scenarios these picks will operate in if it's even true which in most combat situations it probably isn't. When one picks whole point is avoiding a straight fight immediately comparing them in such is rather missing the point.
We have no idea if this is the case, seems unlikely though. It's seems to be quite rare, just having some of the building blocks available doesn't seem to guarantee generation.
No? When we're straight up told Shadow is the safest option we have we can naturally infer there's less chance of being forced to panic buy.
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Well, as long as we are near the Temple, we can literally just drive her back home. It would probably be unavailable if we are farther from civilization, but we are going to be making our way towards the Human Sphere one of these days, even without accounting for other settlements here, so I don't think we'll be staying in wilderness for long.
Again this isn't really how picks work, the generation of two picks needed to buy that will need further circumstances aligned with the option beyond just having her in arms reach.
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- Pindorama
Guh; what a reversal. People are seriously sleeping on how much stealth can be helpful; more powers to help you punch people on the face are not always relevant! More intrigue capabilities can help us significantly once we arrive at the Human Sphere, the place we actually want to conquer. Given how much political stuff is implied to be going on there, stealth capabilities could be quite useful.
Broadening our capabilities this way is as much of a long term investment as an EFB, and relevant in areas they may not! Especially if we go for three Blade EFBs and become incredibly swording focused! Sometimes, you'd rather not hit your problems in the face, but solve them quietly and with minimal fuss; Shadowlord gives us that.
Lastly there's some politics regarding the EFBs going around; don't know if you care about that though.
Broadening our capabilities this way is as much of a long term investment as an EFB, and relevant in areas they may not! Especially if we go for three Blade EFBs and become incredibly swording focused! Sometimes, you'd rather not hit your problems in the face, but solve them quietly and with minimal fuss; Shadowlord gives us that.
Hmm, by maths there's already 2~3 on the 120$ reward tier, do we get that Arete now or when the month ticks over? It would be useful to know.
But it also doesn't give us anything more time wouldn't except for doubled Grace development, while Shadowlord is much more relevant for the approach we have chosen for dealing with the Temple. It also brings some focus into the Evening Sky which voters have been wanting for a while.
Lastly there's some politics regarding the EFBs going around; don't know if you care about that though.
We chose Infiltration; fighting would be a failure state. Which so many people don't seem to understand. And 30% of the best combat stat plus guaranteed crit from ambush mean it doesn't lag behind Adept in combat potential either. While still benefitting from all that stealth.
Considering we need picks for this; nah. Unless we depower after a fight and agree to escort her all the way back, which she might object to anyway. The circumstance that need to align for this to be even available are quite something; we can only get it now because of the bonus, even!
The need to deploy it at a specific time's kind of annoying, but if the stars were right it'd be a real coup. Half the reason I wanted Inksky was to turn our mantle into a Reality Marble. Anyway, both the remaining options here seem good, but if the savegang's been defeated I'll go back to my first choice:
[X] +1 pick below
[X] Evening Sky: Shadowlord
As far as I can tell, as long as we have the picks, options just need a somewhat logical reason to appear. If we are in position to make her an offer like that - I.E. have money and place where she can spend it to live in luxury, why wouldn't she agree, if she can agree right now? I guess Hunger might need a reason to want stealth, but I think it's useful enough he will always like getting it, especially since we will have an example of its usefulness in our party.
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- US
[X] +1 pick below
[X] Evening Sky: Shadowlord
Well, the benefit of stealth over power is a fair point, Rihaku. I guess we can wait for an EFB.
[X] Evening Sky: Shadowlord
Well, the benefit of stealth over power is a fair point, Rihaku. I guess we can wait for an EFB.
No that's not really how it happens, we got it this time because we were able to generate picks from the surgecrafting duels here. We're going to out-scale her too hard to make that feasible again, so there will have to be some other scenario in which it becomes possible.
As an example think about Philosopher's Wreath, we can't just make it show up every time we generate two picks by having a conversation about magic with Gisena.
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