Which one is that? I don't think it being a one time thing as I posited would be that bad because then the mental effects would also be permanent.

It just seems like a stretch to pick something named Conclusion and expect it to be repeatable. Usually only ends once.
 
Fisher King
Fisher King

There were no prey for Gisena's blast-fishing experiment in the river, but scarce hours later they encountered a picturesque lake, freshwater glittering in the sun and spanning very nearly to the horizon. Lilies bobbed across its expansive surface as birds and bugs circled lazily about, the halcyon chorus of life uninterrupted.

"Well, this is downright idyllic!" Gisena exclaimed, spinning around to face the water. She skipped happily down to the shore, humming as she went.

"It's downright suspicious." He followed, keeping his eyes peeled. They'd spoken of fishing, and a fishing spot appeared. It could be benign, the world yielding to his whims on this small matter - a faint echo of the causality-bending influence he'd once exerted by sheer power of spirit.

Long seconds passed. Nothing struck at them, from ambush or otherwise; he settled into a watchful wariness.

Letrizia had Verschlengorge extend a hand over the water, acting as a makeshift pier. He carved a rudimentary fishing rod from a branch and some wire, while Gisena tinkered with one of the Armament's dumb-fire munitions, its fuses safely set aside.

"You go first," he handed Letrizia the rod, and some processed meat for bait. "It's simple. Flick the rod to cast the line and wait."

"A-alright." Letrizia took the rod from him and cast the line with a determined expression. "How long does it usually take?"

"Depends," he shrugged. "Could be minutes, could be hours."

"That long?" She asked petulantly. "Couldn't you hunt the fish with your physical power? You slew an Astral beast the size of a giant!"

"I'd rather rest for a time," he replied, settling in. "That bandit leader was well-equipped and skilled. I exerted myself more than I'd like. The well of my power has thinned."

"Hmph," She tossed her hair primly. "So, we're to await your pleasure while you rest? You could just as easily sleep while Verschlengorge is moving."

"Yes, you're to wait," he said dryly. "And fish."

"A-ah."

They sat in silence for a bit.

"W-well, that's just totally unreasonable!" She finally said, turning to glare at him.

"I never told you I was going to be reasonable."

"That's true... Wait, I-I mean, you shouldn't have to tell people that! Reasonableness is the expected order of things!"

"Do as you like. I'm resting here."

"Mmh..." Letrizia slouched unhappily.

He chewed on a stalk of grass. "Hey. What do you think our chances of getting out of here are? Eight out of ten? Nine?"

"At least nine, I'd hope! Both you and Miss Gisena are strong... maybe ninety-five out of a hundred times we should escape? As long as we don't have too many encounters like today."

"I tend to attract trouble. So does this guy." He gestured towards the Armament with his head.

"Hmph! True enough. Maybe if you were a bit more reasonable, that wouldn't be the case."

"Fire me if you like. I'll retire and become a fisherman."

She laughed. "I'd like to see that!"

"Point is, we don't know exactly what the future will bring, or if we're all going to make it. It's worthwhile to look around and enjoy this place every once in a while. Steal what joy you can."

Letrizia looked down, her expression conflicted. "You're right. You're right, of course, but..."

He closed his eyes, letting his instincts guide him. "You feel like you don't have time for that. That people are depending on you. That if you don't achieve what you've set out to achieve, it will all have been for nothing."

She gasped. "H-how did you-"

"I felt the same, once." He paused, thinking carefully.

"There was a magic in my second world. Hard to quantify or explain. As you accumulated power you could do impossible feats. My enemy was very skilled in it. He'd spent centuries upon centuries gathering strength. Fighting him was like fighting the tide. Endless setbacks every week. Whenever we failed, people died. Whenever we didn't act, people died. I fought him for eleven years. If we hadn't taken what moments we could, however brief, we would have lasted... maybe five or six. That final stretch, it was only the strength that I'd gained in those moments which kept me going."

She blushed. "I-I get it. You d-didn't have to make a whole speech and everything."

"Stupid."

"What?"

"'You didn't have to make a whole speech and everything, stupid.' Say it properly. What is the nobility coming to these days?"

"You! Aaah... I was trying so hard not to be a stereotype! Is this how everyone sees me, even you and Miss Gisena? That stupid Old Terra show..."

"I don't remember much. Bits and pieces. But you have to admit... the Armament. And you kind of look like her."

"Yeah. Neuron Genesis Cathedrelion, right? It's been a joke for almost as long as we've had the Armaments. I even got implants to change my hair..."

"What?" He sat up. "So you're a natural redhead as well?"

Her hair shimmered for a moment, then shifted to a shade of fiery red. "Y-yeah. I thought white was more professional and would break the association, but everyone was like, 'That's exactly what she'd do!'"

"Don't fight it. Embrace it. Then people will naturally see the areas where you're different."

"Oh? L-like what?"

"You're childish at times, but on balance I'd say you're much more level-headed and mature than she was. She always acted like she had something to prove. You're truly comfortable piloting Verschlengorge. You and he have a good connection. Though not as good as mine with my sword."

"Well," She said quietly, failing to contain a smile. "I am five years older. Of course I'd be more mature!"

He nodded, leaning back down again.

"Hey," She spoke up again. "That magic from your old world. It sounds a bit like the power of the Armaments. Have you ever heard of the concept of Astral Rank?"

"We didn't formally name it or anything. If you lived and did great things, you grew powerful. As your power grew, the world started to yield to you. First in small ways, then increasingly so."

"It's actually a field of study that I dabble in. A hobby of mine!"

She shifted to face him directly, tracing figures in the air with her index finger. "The most commonly used analogy is this. So, you know how objects within the physical realm have a property called mass?"

"Sure."

"Mass distorts physical space. Some say the curvature of that distortion is called gravity."

"Okay."

"Similarly, some entities have a property we call 'Rank.' Rank distorts the Astral realm as mass does the physical, and the curvature of that distortion is called 'Pressure.' By exerting Pressure, an Armament can accomplish great feats. It's an amazing ability! Rank gives you the power to achieve the conventionally impossible, to overturn the system of the world, to blast with awe and with fear, greatness undiluted like a blazing star! It cares nothing for stipulations or prognostications. It is the sharp bright sword of will that cuts to the heart of the matter, bringing mere physical law to heel!"

"...I get it. You didn't have to make a whole speech and everything, stupid."

Before her shocked expression could subside, he gently raised a hand.

"Just kidding. It was a wonderful explanation. Did you write that? It sounds like more than just a hobby to you."

"Mm-hm!" She grunted, her face still red. She cleared her throat. "I'm hoping to present it at a Symposium one day. The Armaments have been with us for millennia, but we still don't understand all their secrets. Even most pilots only know the basics! You compress your Armament's Pressure into a Shroud and that makes you unstoppable within its radius. But recent studies have shown that even humans can develop a Rank! If we properly apply ourselves, we can go so much farther as a species, and even as individuals! It wouldn't much surprise me if your powers operated off a similar principle!"

"A shadow in the Spirit realm, huh... Let's test it. It sounds like your society has developed quantified measurements for this attribute."

"Yup. Rank is usually measured from 1 to 10 in a hyper-logarithmic scale, though values above that should be possible. An Ereadhihr - an Armament - at full theoretical strength is Rank 10. No amount of physical force can so much as impair their actions! We've made some Armor Prototypes that manage to reach the middle ranks, enough to outclass conventional weapons in dogfighting or ground combat scenarios, though no number of them could even compete with an Armament. Individual humans typically have a Rank between 1 and 3, with anything above 2 being exceptionally rare."

"That fits my observations of your Armament as well. Its full potential is well beyond even that of my enemy at his height. Ereadhihr. The language of the Foremost?"

"That's right! You have good instincts for this sort of thing." She hummed happily. "Ereadhihr, the Elder Implement. They weren't just a weapon to the Foremost. The Foremost could harness them for countless tasks, bend realms both physical and Astral to their whims, apply the Interdict of Cognition that immunizes us from rampant intelligences, and so much more!"

He turned to glance at Verschlengorge. "Did they pull the ladder up behind them? Prevent anyone from making more?"

"Ah, no, we don't think they did anything like that. But... it's complicated. To create a true Armament, an entity with the potential to reach such elevated Rank, there's a special component involved. A sort of... Curse that's inextricable from its core essence. Verschlengorge has one as well, of course. It's called... the Affliction of the Decimator."

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[ ] Spill - There's no way this is a coincidence. The only question is, is this the work of the Accursed, or of the Apocryphal Curse? Whatever the case, you need answers. Tell Letrizia a reasonable amount about your own circumstances, the power you command and the Curses you bear. [+Letrizia]

[ ] Keep Your Own Counsel
- See if you can get more information out of her without disclosing anything about your particular circumstances. It's good to trust; better to trust after you hold all the cards. You've barely known her half a week. You can always tell her more when she proves herself a reliable ally. [+0.5 Arete]

Though you intend to rest, fishing is serious business. How much should you exert yourself in catching the fish?

[ ] None - You'll conserve your energy. You are already wounded, no need to become winded as well.

[ ] Substantially - Show 'em how it's done. [+Letrizia, +Improved Nutrition, Tired Condition]

[ ] Of Fishermen, A King - The sharp bright sword of will that cuts to the heart of these waters and brings their mightiest bounty to heel! [+???, +Legendary Fish, +Gisena, -1 Arete or Exhausted condition]
 
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Which one is that? I don't think it being a one time thing as I posited would be that bad because then the mental effects would also be permanent.

It just seems like a stretch to pick something named Conclusion and expect it to be repeatable. Usually only ends once.
It isn't repeatable afaik. Rather the effect sticks. So next time we get hunger sated the improved mindset causes it to last far longer.
 
As for the recent Hunger vote, we'll hold off on consolidation and see how much Arete you guys get through tomorrow, in case we have to re-work some things.
 
I'm still stuck on my phone so no long effort posts here.

But... spill. This is about as controlled an environment as we are going to get for telling anyone about our current condition, and spilling here would likely be good for Hunger, if only because it pushes to the edge of what the curse of the tyrant will allow. Dancing on that edge is better than falling deep into it, at least until we can fully stand on our own.

I have no real opinion about fishing, but it seems a bit odd to get a choice on that. Still, I'd go with none. Hunger doesn't need any more debuffs.
 
[X] Keep Your Own Counsel - See if you can get more information out of her without disclosing anything about your particular circumstances. It's good to trust; better to trust after you hold all the cards. You've barely known her half a week. You can always tell her more if or when she proves herself a reliable ally. [+0.5 Arete]
[X] Substantially


Keeping our own Counsel as that is both in character with our first chosen role/archetype, and it grants the most divine of resources, Arete. Substantially because it has the best chance of catching up to Of Fishermen, A King.
 
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[X] Keep Your Own Counsel
[X] Of Fishermen, A King


Unashamedly angling for a legendary fish!

So Verschlengorge has the Decimation as well after all. Sounds bad. Although it also sounds like this universe might contain some deepest lore on the origin of at least some of the Accursed curses.
 
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[X] Spill
[X] Of Fishermen, A King


Our Arete generation rate seems to make 0.5 Arete pretty recoupable, plus the relationship up is nice. And as Byzantine said, this is a pretty safe location to reveal the truth.

As for the second vote, Legends is what improves our Accretion. Let's take the leap. (Plus, it gets Gisena to +++ along with Letrizia.)
 
[X] Spill - There's no way this is a coincidence. The only question is, is this the work of the Accursed, or of the Apocryphal Curse? Whatever the case, you need answers. Tell Letrizia a reasonable amount about your own circumstances, the power you command and the Curses you bear. [+Letrizia]
[X] None
- You'll conserve your energy. You are already wounded, no need to become winded as well.
 
@Rihaku Can we choose whether we spend 1 Arete or gain Exhausted for Of Fishermen, A King? If so it might be worth going for, Accretion grows as we accomplish legendary actions, which means that'd boost us.
 
I enjoyed that exchange a lot more than I thought I would. Showed a different side of both characters. Interesting stuff also, seems very likely the Accursed sent us here very specifically at this point. Maybe as a courtesy exertion for the Geass's first rodeo?

On first glance I'm inclined to keep our own counsel here. But considering she's fine spending significant amounts of time in life drain conditions telling her might be reasonable enough.

For fishing... Man spending that Arete is way more tempting than it should be.
 
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@Rihaku Can we choose whether we spend 1 Arete or gain Exhausted for Of Fishermen, A King? If so it might be worth going for, Accretion grows as we accomplish legendary actions, which means that'd boost us.

If you have enough Arete left over, you'll spend it to avoid the Exhausted Condition, yeah. It's pretty punishing.

The real question is if we can spend more arete to catch some kind of god fish!

The Fisher King is already capable of catching the most powerful fish in that lake!
 
I enjoyed that exchange a lot more than I thought I would. Showed a different side of both characters.

On first glance I'm inclined to keep our own counsel here. But considering she's fine spending significant amounts of time in life drain conditions telling her might be reasonable enough.

For fishing... Man spending that Arete is way more tempting than it should be.
We have to impress Gisena with our incredible fishing prowess!
 
If they have a similar curses to our affliction, they may have specific solutions and mitigations too. I say Spill but will vote for it later.
 
What. Do we have to worry about being sacrificed to make a giant robot now? Or is it something like the Shadow Remittance Nameless could get? What a plot twist. What the fuck were the Foremost planning with the Armaments to artificially create something with a Accretion Rank?
 
What the fuck were the Foremost planning with the Armaments to artificially create something with a Accretion Rank?
With a fairly high Accretion Rank too considering the scale given. Its quite possible those Armaments surpass Hunger at his peak against the Tyrant. @Rihaku could you tell us what Hunger would guess his current self and peak self on the scale given for Accretion Ranks?
 
It's interesting that Armaments have been around for Millennia which I think means they had FTL that long, but Terra still seems to command a pretty strong cultural influence.
 
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What. Do we have to worry about being sacrificed to make a giant robot now? Or is it something like the Shadow Remittance Nameless could get? What a plot twist. What the fuck were the Foremost planning with the Armaments to artificially create something with a Accretion Rank?
I don't know if they are properly using Accretion, itself.

What it sounds like to me, though, is that a supertech society managed to understand reality well enough to detect the existence of the Accursed, and managed to create Armaments in imitation of what they could see. Power, tied to Curses.

An interesting way of demonstrating the hypertech precursors reaction to the existence of the Rihaku multiverse they're in.
 
I actually think Spill is a better option and probably more likely to net us some tasty lore, but I'm voting keep for the arete to try and bait more posters into voting for epic fishing which is now my number one priority.
 
[X] Keep Your Own Counsel
[X] None


In regards to telling her about the Curse, the issue is more about who is she then going to tell later than her immediate reaction. Which is a much more potentially problematic thing to deal with. So I think we shouldn't open that can of worms yet.

Speaking of worms I've sadly got to vote conservatively here, getting exhausted by running low on Arete would be way way to risky considering our situation. Even just going tired seems too much. We're already wounded and don't want to compound things.
 
We have to impress Gisena with our incredible fishing prowess!

Is it the fishing prowess itself that will impress her?

If they have a similar curses to our affliction, they may have specific solutions and mitigations too. I say Spill but will vote for it later.

Perhaps... Letrizia isn't dead or unnaturally aged to a noticeable degree, but they may just have vastly higher lifespans in the Human Sphere!

What. Do we have to worry about being sacrificed to make a giant robot now? Or is it something like the Shadow Remittance Nameless could get? What a plot twist. What the fuck were the Foremost planning with the Armaments to artificially create something with a Accretion Rank?

Their method is actually not identical to Accretion, though the effects are basically similar to those of Accretion Rank.

With a fairly high Accretion Rank too considering the scale given. Its quite possible those Armaments surpass Hunger at his peak against the Tyrant. @Rihaku could you tell us what Hunger would guess his current self and peak self on the scale given for Accretion Ranks?

Rank 10 is to the Tyrant what the Tyrant would be to a toddler. It's vastly, almost immeasurably greater. Imagine if no physical force in the universe (or even arbitrary levels of physical force) were unable to so much as bruise the Tyrant, that's Rank 10. It's the point where things below a certain Rank just can't fight you at all.

It's interesting that Armaments have been around for Millennia which I think means they had FTL that long, but Terra still seems to command a pretty strong cultural influence.

Preservation of information and broad distribution lead to cultural continuity... though the life imitates art aspects of it may have played a major role for that specific piece of media.

[X] Keep Your Own Counsel
[X] None


In regards to telling her about the Curse, the issue is more about who is she then going to tell later than her immediate reaction. Which is a much more potentially problematic thing to deal with. So I think we shouldn't open that can of worms yet.

Speaking of worms I've sadly got to vote conservatively here, getting exhausted by running low on Arete would be way way to risky considering our situation. Even just going tired seems too much. We're already wounded and don't want to compound things.

Hm... she's spilled the beans to you but you're not willing to reciprocate? Is this just a matter of hoarding Arete!?
 

Nice.

After all, he is wounded. And thanks to his Decimation curse that wound is reflecting on the land itself. And some day he will be king.


[X] Keep Your Own Counsel
I was a fan of Spill at first, but the more I thought about it the bigger the risk became.

We're slowly killing them. We're slowly killing everyone. Literally everyone on this landmass would benefit by killing us. We'd be fine in the short term because I doubt Letrizia and Gisnea can kill us, but long term? This world holds beings of great power, many of whom are likely aware of the drain effect, and all it takes is a single word for that being to come find us and kill us. Letrizia and Gisnea like us now, but a single word...

And to make matters worse, they know about the Decimation curse here. This is not new. They likely have plans, strategies, tricks we don't know about. They've done this before. What if there are bounties being offered, palaces and treasures and immortality for whoever pinpoints the source of decimation?

We CANNOT afford to spill it.

[X] Substantially

Edit: Decided to get more serious about fishing.
 
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Hm... she's spilled the beans to you but you're not willing to reciprocate? Is this just a matter of hoarding Arete!?
Well I mean partially you made that option a truly beautiful shade of blue. :D

Its also that until we have more information we can't be sure spilling the beans is the right thing to do, especially since our actual bonding/socials haven't yet taken place.

Additionally and even worse, its unlikely we will become more important to Letrizia than her superiors/bosses, and so we must expect any information we give to her will also be given to them. Even if we trusted her, I see little reason to trust those she is subordinate to or all those she trusts. Heck, we don't even know if she's decent at keeping secrets.

Oh, additional question for you @Rihaku! If the Verschlengorge corresponds to the Affliction of the Decimator, is there/could there be an Armament for The Apocryphal Curse?
 
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