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[X] The Forsaken Mask
[X] Dread but Dreaming
-[X] Keep the Plenary Brand
[X] Battle Mastery

Double voting is great! Now I can support both freedom options! Not that I think it makes a difference, but I can at least tell myself I tried
 
[X]Forsaken Mask
-[X] Remittance: The King's
[X] Battle Mastery

I took out the Vendetta part so I'm able to vote for the Vendetta subvote without further strengthening Vendetta. In the event that Vendetta wins, I'd massively prefer the option that has greater survivability than 33 to 66 percent.

Besides, since The King's Scepter is customizable, we can choose a version that returns us to the peak in our native magic system and jailbreaks the limits to allow more growth with it, both vertical and lateral. That could be cool.
 
[X] Vendetta
-[X] Remittance: The Sword
[X] Dread but Dreaming
-[X] Keep the Plenary Brand
[X] Seven Seals
 
Crimson Moon said:
No, it isn't a flip coin. This isn't a tabletop game where we are asked to roll a die to pass a set diffficulty in order to accomplish a single action.

This is a Quest. It means that we players pick actions with consequences. Depending on the combination of these choices, we can achieve different results, ranging from terrible to excellent. Given the difficulty of Vendetta + Sword, we are given less leeway in our choices, meaning that we must think harder before picking a choice in order to maximize its effect.

But that's our choices that dictate life and death, not an arbitrary roll in which there is literally nothing we can do. Let's not pretend the two are similar situations.
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Rihaku said:
To be absolutely clear, it is not overblown. Only take this option if you are comfortable with a serious chance (at least 1 in 3, probably not more than 2 in 3) of the quest ending within the first few fights.
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Rihaku said:
The difference is that any advantages you gain from fanwork or thread participation don't convert into safety if you take the Sword, because the Lesser Remittances that can grant immediate power only do so if your Primary Remittance gives you some to start with! The 33 to 66% lethality ratio is taking the thread's efforts into account already.
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Rihaku said:
Hey, I said there was a between 33 and 66% chance of PKing you! Even if it happens, it'll certainly be a memorable experience, and unique too.
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Even at best we have 30% chance of dying. No thanks.
 
ReaderOfFate said:
[X]Forsaken Mask
-[X] Remittance: The King's
[X] Battle Mastery

I took out the Vendetta part so I'm able to vote for the Vendetta subvote without further strengthening Vendetta. In the event that Vendetta wins, I'd massively prefer the option that has greater survivability than 33 to 66 percent.

Besides, since The King's Scepter is customizable, we can choose a version that returns us to the peak in our native magic system and jailbreaks the limits to allow more growth with it, both vertical and lateral. That could be cool.
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I don't think the system'll actually count your vote if you do this. Please don't make the job harder for our vote counters!

notgreat said:
Updating with approval vote for Balance.

[X] The Forsaken Mask
[X] Balance
[X] Battle Mastery
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Balance, ho!
 
[X] Vendetta
-[X] Remittance: The Sword
[X] The Forsaken Mask
[X] Accretion
Weird combination, I know. But for me, I want something done right, or not done at all. There's no middle ground.
Accretion is still the best system. Mask still has to account for the fact that creative use of Seals and Mastery is rather difficult if we're berserk. And for Vengeance, what better way to embody the ideal? What better wayto commit ourselves fully to the cause?
 
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[X] Dread but Dreaming
-[X] Keep the Plenary Brand
[X] Balance
[X] Battle Mastery
 
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With the new Doublevoting setup, Omake Power Looks like this. Tally by line will be inserted momentarily now that this is an easier process.

Vendetta: 19066
1794(Orm Embar Total)+5292(Unelemental)+1194(Sickul)+2284(Runeblue360) = 10564 from Scepter
1054(Crimson Moon)+689(Salty)+2177(KidfromPallet)+1463(BrainInAJar)+1873(Birdsie)+1246(Cerillian) = 8502 from Sword

Forsaken Mask: 2494(Maragas)+537(Enohthree)+2125(ConjuredBlade)+695(ImperatorV)+1463(BrainInAJar) = 7314
Balance : 695(ImperatorV)+5292(Unelemental) = 5987

Dread and Dreaming: 2125(ConjuredBlade)+1054(Crimson Moon) = 3179


Accretion: 1794(Orm Embar)+5292(Unelemental)+1463(BrainInAJar)+1194(Sickul)+2284(Runeblue360)+537(Enohthree)
= 12564
Seven Seals: 1054(Crimson Moon)+689(Salty)+2177(KidFromPallet)+2125(ConjuredBlade)+1873(Birdsie)+1246(Cerillian) = 9164
Battle Mastery: 695(ImperatorV)+2494(Maragas) = 3189
Adhoc vote count started by Conjured Blade on May 18, 2020 at 5:29 PM, finished with 422 posts and 82 votes.
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Conjured Blade said:
With the new Doublevoting setup, Omake Power Looks like this. Tally by line will be inserted momentarily now that this is an easier process.

Vendetta: 19066
1794(Orm Embar Total)+5292(Unelemental)+1194(Sickul)+2284(Runeblue360) = 10564 from Scepter
1054(Crimson Moon)+689(Salty)+2177(KidfromPallet)+1463(BrainInAJar)+1873(Birdsie)+1246(Cerillian) = 8502 from Sword

Forsaken Mask: 2494(Maragas)+537(Enohthree)+2125(ConjuredBlade)+695(ImperatorV)+1463(BrainInAJar) = 7314
Balance : 695(ImperatorV)+5292(Unelemental) = 5987

Dread and Dreaming: 2125(ConjuredBlade)+1054(Crimson Moon) = 3179


Accretion: 1794(Orm Embar)+5292(Unelemental)+1463(BrainInAJar)+1194(Sickul)+2284(Runeblue360)+537(Enohthree)
= 12564
Seven Seals: 1054(Crimson Moon)+689(Salty)+2177(KidFromPallet)+2125(ConjuredBlade)+1873(Birdsie)+1246(Cerillian) = 9164
Battle Mastery: 695(ImperatorV)+2494(Maragas) = 3189
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Is omake power really done by word count? I wasnt under the impression that was the case (and it disadvantages low quantity high effort stuff like poetry or artwork, too...).
 
[X] Vendetta
-[X] Remittance: The King's
[X] Dread but Dreaming
-[X] Keep the Plenary Brand
[X] Seven Seals
 
[X] Vendetta
-[X] Remittance: The Sword
[X] Dread but Dreaming
-[X] Keep the Plenary Brand

I'm ambivalent regarding our magic. They all have potential.
 
Rihaku said:
I'm surprised Accretion is so popular given the lack of control you would have. Its passive benefits are broad but building any sort of reliable special effect takes time, experience and notable feats, something that may be less practical to accomplish than simply training / studying or fighting enemies (with a Hunger build). Plus, with both Battle Mastery and Seals you can direct that progress the direction you desire, instead of being forced to simply accept the powers that unfurl. As a Cursebearer you don't lack for other options to establish conceptual primacy in the mid to long term either.
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That's the very reason why I want Accretion. In the description you essentially compared it to a uber Excaliber. And that's enough for a slow, comfy, game without incessant grinding and power leveling. I'm determined to see this Quest be different than the ones that came before - yes, that means a lack of control but we can also to notmicromanage and expontentially grow out our power base.

(And, to be honest, I'm curious what a Rihaku Quest will look like without constant build votes to push along the narrative).
 
[X]Forsaken Mask

[X] Vendetta
-[X] Remittance: The Sword

[X] Accretion

I would rather, as the Accursed does, that our Hero have a chance to rest and be happy, to resurrect his companions and loved ones. That said, if I can't have that, then let us have the greatest show possible. Let him scream and cry and wreak bloody vengeance, a Sword to carve through worlds and take up the Accursed one's Image and Mantle.
 
Hail mary argument for Forsaken Mask: Accursed interactions

You want lore? You want the Praxis? How about the option that has him periodically pop back in to fulfill wishes and shit? Sure, we use up the Lesser right off the bat, but the thing about Three Wishes is that the name's a fucking lie if you get up off your ass and try. You can earn more. Do good work, mitigate Curses, yadda yadda. One valid Lesser Wish is access to the Royal Praxis. Take a second to mull that over, it's all the incentives necessary to get the protagonist adventuring again and go back into the grind. No clue why the Remittance isn't getting more play, having the Accursed on call is a god tier trump card.

If we get in over our head? If we make bad decisions and screw shit up? Then we get to see a True Wish in action, the Accursed personally pulling our fat from the fire. That'll be cool too. No other option promises that level of safety and comfiness.
 
cheesyme said:
That said, if I can't have that, then let us have the greatest show possible. Let him scream and cry and wreak bloody vengeance, a Sword to carve through worlds and take up the Accursed one's Image and Mantle.
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I honestly believe that The King's Scepter better fits this than The Sword That Ends The World. Being weak and scared and facing a high chance of irreparable setbacks isn't a great show and often doesn't lead to any bloody vengeance.
 
George said:
I honestly believe that The King's Scepter better fits this than The Sword That Ends The World. Being weak and scared and facing a high chance of irreparable setbacks isn't a great show and often doesn't lead to any bloody vengeance.
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Perhaps, but I consider the Praxis to be worth the risk of dying, and regardless of if we succeed or fail it'll still be very interesting in a way I don't except the scepter to be.
 
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