So to restate. We wasted finding a weapon to rival mjolnir or run it and instead asked for a tutor. We instead of specifying a good useful tool that wouldn't harm us.... wasted a question.... on an answer we already knew....

I am furious and my day ruined.
 
1. That Karnilla would have to jump planets to steal the Odinforce.
2. That Amora is giving Odinforce to Balder.
Well, then what's the point, if someone could just steal your magic just by sitting in their room... Karnilla is now what a cosmic entity with cosmic powers? Even Dark Rituals would require something belonging to Odin (on a personal level) to sacrifice, and I don't know who would someone invoke to make this ritual even happen. Eternity? Infinity?

Yeah... sure. Sigh Amora is innocent. The Odinforce has a mind of its own and it just happened it liked Balder better than Odin. I am sorry for making assumptions.
Frigga is the villain here.
 
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@KnowledgeKing Is the Malus going to get lower over during the turns as we heal during the turns?
Yes. By the end of next turn it should be 2/3 healed.

The problem with that is the serum should be factored in when it comes to healing. Laufry also took two beams to disintegrate while Sif and the warrior three took one each.

You realize this puts Sif and the Warrior's Three at the very least...on the level of Laufey. the King of Frost Giants. Who is implied to be a threat to Thor and Odin. Which means non top tier Asgardians are at least as resistant as the very best Frost Giants.

Also the serum doesn't give you a healing factor. Never has...

Well, then what's the point, if someone could just steal your magic just by sitting in their room... Karnilla is now what a cosmic entity with cosmic powers? Even Dark Rituals would require something belonging to Odin (on a personal level) to sacrifice, and I don't know who would someone invoke to make this ritual even happen. Eternity? Infinity?

Yeah... sure. Sigh Amora is innocent. The Odinforce has a mind of its own and it just happened it liked Balder better than Odin. I am sorry for making assumptions.
Yes because Karnilla, mother of Hela, has literally nothing to connect to Odin on a personal level.

...Balder doesn't have the Odinforce.
 
Well, then what's the point, if someone could just steal your magic just by sitting in their room... Karnilla is now what a cosmic entity with cosmic powers? Even Dark Rituals would require something belonging to Odin (on a personal level) to sacrifice, and I don't know who would someone invoke to make this ritual even happen. Eternity? Infinity?

Yeah... sure. Sigh Amora is innocent. The Odinforce has a mind of its own and it just happened it liked Balder better than Odin. I am sorry for making assumptions.
Frigga is the villain here.
Don't think it could be simple as that. Remember, Morpheus stole Odin's memories using the mind stone one of the most powerful artifacts in the universe and then contacted Karnilla who would seem like she would have been interested in a deal considering for not just the knowledge but access to the other artifacts that Thanos stole beforehand.

Throw in that Morpheus was in the same room with Odin after he stole his memories I think a possibility is something like that he used a ritual gained from Odin's knowledge that he was able to use once he stabbed Odin in the heart which with his memories may have let him make some sort of connection to the Odin force which Karnilla may have helped with. Considering Odin's memories, powerful magical artifacts including ones Karnilla may have and an infinity stone think it's not that crazy to think that that hey may have pulled some crazy ritual. Especially when taking into account that Odin was weakened after fighting Dormormu.
 
Don't think it could be simple as that. Remember, Morpheus stole Odin's memories using the mind stone one of the most powerful artifacts in the universe and then contacted Karnilla who would seem like she would have been interested in a deal considering for not just the knowledge but access to the other artifacts that Thanos stole beforehand.

Throw in that Morpheus was in the same room with Odin after he stole his memories I think a possibility is something like that he used a ritual gained from Odin's knowledge that he was able to use once he stabbed Odin in the heart which with his memories may have let him make some sort of connection to the Odin force which Karnilla may have helped with. Considering Odin's memories, powerful magical artifacts including ones Karnilla may have and an infinity stone think it's not that crazy to think that that hey may have pulled some crazy ritual. Especially when taking into account that Odin was weakened after fighting Dormormu.
Odin woke up with 100% Odinfore. So, unless Karnilla called Thanos back again (after our meeting), and used the artifacts with Mind Stone this or previous year to perform a dark ritual to steal Odinforce... then I suppose your point is valid.

Also, memories and magic are two different things. Morpheus spent 20-30 mins with Odin in the first encounter downloading Odin's memories into himself (such processing capabilities, many wows) and then in their second encounter he spent minutes. So, if Morpheus performed a ritual at the speed of light... then I suppose your point is valid.

Odin slept for 4-5 decades after fighting Dormammu. The latter is a Dimensional Entity with the power of a whole dimension behind them...
 
... Our durability is already said to be higher than an Asgardian... And our martial is also way higher than canon Thor, also we have a healing serum in our body.
All these factors amount to nothing?

Edit: These stats are as useless as our mental stats.
No, frost giants are said to be stronger, but also more fragile. Glass cannons.
 
[X] Ask Osmond and Elym to make us a cybernetic leg and an exo-suit.
-[X] If possible take an existing suit instead of waiting.
-[X] Take some robot guards as well.

Seeing as we are probably going to sacrifice a limb might be a good idea to prepare for that ahead of time. That and an exosuit would be great to have while we are weakened.
 
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[X] Yes
-[x] Tell Sigyn, to stay safe and don't investigate Amora. Also, ask if possible learn from Odin's Library about Aether/ Reality Stone.
-[x] Ask Osmond and Elym for a favour, have them make Cybernetic Prothestetics (prepared for cold weather) for Loki (optimized for battle).
--[x] Also have 5 robot guards (prepared for cold weather) with you when you leave.
--[x] Also get an exo-suit for Loki (prepared for cold weather) when he leaves.
-[x] Talk to Egil, before you leave. Ask him to visit us once (through dark magic, or physically) at the end of next turn.
 
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[X] Tying up loose ends
-[x] Tell Sigyn, to stay safe and don't investigate Amora. Also, ask if possible learn from Odin's Library about Aether/ Reality Stone.
-[x] Try and use Pf to locate the Well
-[x] Go to Osmond see if he is interested in creating a brain booster with Loki if he comes to Jotunheim.
-[x] Check to see how Odin, Frigga, Sif and the Warriors Three are taking recent events.
-[x] Ask Osmond and Elym for a favour, have them make Cybernetic Prothestetic (prepared for cold weather) for Loki (optimized for battle).
-[x] Also have 5 robot guards (prepared for cold weather) with you when you leave.
-[x] Also get an exo-suit for Loki (prepared for cold weather) when he leaves.
-[x] Talk to Egil, before you leave. Ask him to visit us once (through dark magic, or physically) at the end of next turn.
-[x] Say Goodbye to your friends and family for now
 
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[X] Tying up loose ends
-[x] Get healed by Sigyn
-[x] Think together with Sigyn what the riddle mean.
-[x] Tell Sigyn, to stay safe and don't investigate Amora. Also, ask if possible learn from Odin's Library about Aether/ Reality Stone.
-[x] Do ritual with the well
-[x] Go to Osmond see if he is interested in creating a brain booster with Loki if he comes to Jotunheim.
-[x] Check to see how Odin, Frigga, Sif and the Warriors Three are taking recent events.
-[x] Ask Osmond and Elym for a favour, have them make Cybernetic Prothestetic (prepared for cold weather) for Loki (optimized for battle).
-[x] Also have 5 robot guards (prepared for cold weather) with you when you leave.
-[x] Also get an exo-suit for Loki (prepared for cold weather) when he leaves.
-[x] Talk to Egil, before you leave. Ask him to visit us once (through dark magic, or physically) at the end of next turn.
-[x] Say Goodbye to your friends and family for now
won't do anything....
We kinda already did,
okay
can't do it now.
... most likely no but go ahead, try it. With no lab in Jotunhiem, see if Osmond would leave his position in Asgard (or Amora would even allow him)
... Very few like us on Asgard, our reputation is so low. Unless you want Loki to get mauled by the public or have his heartbroken then don't do ir.
okay
alright
sure
good
I don't think we have any friends besides Osmond for now....
 
Wanna hang with us on a tree after sacrificing parts of your body in a well so you can gain a power-up that the next time Thor appears you will most likely be strong enough to tell him to fuck off?

I'm not going to lie, the offer is tempting. In fact, me thinks I will accept.

Edit: a family that hangs together stays together.
 
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Well, then what's the point, if someone could just steal your magic just by sitting in their room... Karnilla is now what a cosmic entity with cosmic powers? Even Dark Rituals would require something belonging to Odin (on a personal level) to sacrifice, and I don't know who would someone invoke to make this ritual even happen. Eternity? Infinity?

Yeah... sure. Sigh Amora is innocent. The Odinforce has a mind of its own and it just happened it liked Balder better than Odin. I am sorry for making assumptions.
Frigga is the villain here.
And Odin says we "weakened" Asgard by focusing more on tech when Karnilla could just as well turn our magic off like a switch. LMAO.
 
I don't like the prosthetic idea we are shape shifters and that won't shift with us. Also should ask for cybernetic eyes with all the sensor ranges while your at it. Third point is we shouldn't have PF look for the well it will draw attention and release the info around. Besides Loki thanks to Sigyn already knows where it is so the action is useless.
 
I don't like the prosthetic idea we are shape shifters and that won't shift with us. Also should ask for cybernetic eyes with all the sensor ranges while your at it. Third point is we shouldn't have PF look for the well it will draw attention and release the info around. Besides Loki thanks to Sigyn already knows where it is so the action is useless.
We stay only in our Asgardian form 24/7 which form do you want to shapeshift into? It's a skill that we barely use.

Cybernetic Eye comes under Cybernetic Prosthetic... You want to add specifications to it... ask QM.

Thank you for pointing that out.
 
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