I can't see Loki figuring out the others without thinking or studying to try and find it though, Kufufu said Egil would be willing to teach dark magic in exchange for help earlier
 
Damn we need Talos as soon as possible this is going to take a lot of intrigue. Also we need a stronger power base to deal with Amora. With Jotunheim we need to build a loyal following then install a council of puppets and use the Skrulls high intrigue to control Jotunheim from the outside.

Edit: Just realized Amora's take over was well planned out. Thor is the Smith she got her crown from. Meaning she knew Thor was breaking in to the library. She most likely helped him understand. When his learning shot up that was him sacrificing his eyes. Using the learning boost he learned everything in the library.

Thanos just became number two on our list of issues.
 
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@KnowledgeKing can we think with Sigyn and would that add her learning roll to Loki's?

Sure why not.
Actually do we really need to roll? If so could you roll now? Also would our history stat help here?



So you know it's Yggdrasil but not how to get to it or access it's energy. With Loki's roll. With Sigyn's addition....you can guess how to get to the tree and that using it's energy you can do sacrifices.
 
@KnowledgeKing is the -30 martial just from combat or will it work against actions next turn as well?

Actions too.

@KnowledgeKing does Loki know ways to get friendly with Karnilla? Or can the action to learn about Nornheim give us clues for that?

If Loki wanrmts to want to siphon Odin's power what would he do,?

No he doesn't. His only source is Amora who says that Karnilla is friendly with literally no one. The Nornheim action might or it might not.

Probably seal it into another object and then use said object. Or try the multi-layered roll to seal it into himself.

@KnowledgeKing How long for Loki to heal? How fast is the perfect serum working in order to heal Loki?

2 years/turns.
 
Absolutely useless damn norns, the only thing we got off of that is Amora is screwing us over.

Edit: we need hidden history to find the vault and rituals to pull it off.
Not really... I'll PM you.

Or Karnilla. Thanos and her did come to some sort of deal that we still aren't aware of.
No, it is Amora. Also, Karnilla didn't jump planets and teleported to Asgard to steal Odin's Odinforce. Amora is giving the Odinforce to Balder. And QM has said that it would be very unfortunate for us to fight her.

Edit: Just realized Amora's take over was well planned out. Thor is the Smith she got her crown from. Meaning she knew Thor was breaking in to the library. She most likely helped him understand. When his learning shot up that was him sacrificing his eyes. Using the learning boost he learned everything in the library.
Thor is a smith... okay.
 
We are a frost giant so we are weaker.
... Our durability is already said to be higher than an Asgardian... And our martial is also way higher than canon Thor, also we have a healing serum in our body.
All these factors amount to nothing?

Edit: These stats are as useless as our mental stats.
 
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No, it is Amora. Also, Karnilla didn't jump planets and teleported to Asgard to steal Odin's Odinforce. Amora is giving the Odinforce to Balder.

Very bold assumptions.

1. That Karnilla would have to jump planets to steal the Odinforce.
2. That Amora is giving Odinforce to Balder.

How come Thor healed instantly in Canon and went on to fight Ultron?

For one...arguably he didn't heal instantly. Thor tends to fight in Avengers movies while weakened (only one he didn't was Infinity War). Also Thor is not only Asgardian (who have better resistances than Frost Giants) but he's like...top tier Asgardian. Like take the full force of a Neutron Star Asgardian. Like...get stabbed multiple times and his eye poked out but get up and keep fighting Asgardian.

And if you doubt the Asgardians being more resistant...even outside of Thor's feats we have Frost Giants being disintegrated by the Destroyer, while Sif and the Warrior's Three...were not. Also comics lore about them being resistant to matter manip.
 
Very bold assumptions.

1. That Karnilla would have to jump planets to steal the Odinforce.
2. That Amora is giving Odinforce to Balder.



For one...arguably he didn't heal instantly. Thor tends to fight in Avengers movies while weakened (only one he didn't was Infinity War). Also Thor is not only Asgardian (who have better resistances than Frost Giants) but he's like...top tier Asgardian. Like take the full force of a Neutron Star Asgardian. Like...get stabbed multiple times and his eye poked out but get up and keep fighting Asgardian.

And if you doubt the Asgardians being more resistant...even outside of Thor's feats we have Frost Giants being disintegrated by the Destroyer, while Sif and the Warrior's Three...were not. Also comics lore about them being resistant to matter manip.
The problem with that is the serum should be factored in when it comes to healing. Laufry also took two beams to disintegrate while Sif and the warrior three took one each so difference in exposure.
 
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