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Ugh, sorry. Been busy, then sleeping, then busy again. Mobilepostig atm, will have a bigger post up in an hour or 2.
Congregation of Despair (Mafia - Second Attempt)
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Ia ia Cthulhu Ftaghn, I summon TMR to rise from the grave!
Alright, joking aside, here's my thoughts:
Qtesseract: 3 posts this day, one meme vote, one setup spec post, and one lore correction on the part of vampirism. Pretty much neutral imo.
Dguy: Dimensional started out assuming there was a cult, seems to have been focusing on Nictis both seriously and memevote wise, they mentioned lesser participation. Slight scumread, leaning towards neutral. 4 posts today.
Swarmingu: New player, new player, new player! But also, only 1 in game post at all, and that was an RP thing. Probably just newbie stuff, but still, that's enough to get me looking more closely at them.
Absum: Absum's got 6 posts today, they're engaging, performing analysis, and showing good caution on not bandwagoning too much! Relatively solid town read there.
Yun: Yun's spent a good half of his posts being anti-meme, but recognizing that he can't really do anything about it. The main thing of substance he's posted has been suspicion thrown at people assuming it's a cult game. Slight scum read, especially since multiple people have said stuff about their roles suggesting cult.
Happery: Happery's mostly been memeing. They also voted Yun for their stance on avoiding the meme phase, which is eh to me. They read a pretty solid neutral, leaning slight scum.
Comiturtle: Meme meme meme...They read actually slight scum to me, just by sheer audacity. The whole vampyre thing just seems a little off. Slight scum read, mostly on gut feelings.
Oshha: Town Read. They've been consistently posting, debating, and helping to poke inactives. Good work!
1KBestK: They seem to have been very focused against getting the lynch off Yun, pushing very hard that the whole thing is based on faulty reasoning. Neutral read, but that (and Yun's) would be reevaluated if one of them turns out to be scum.
Nanimani: They needed sleep, and I'm gonna be real, I think they revealed a little more than they probably meant to. Their role apparently doesn't make much sense if there isn't a cultafia (or at least, visible effects). So, solid Town for now, I don't believe that they'd scumslip like that.
Dovah seems to be trying to be more active, though they're kinda focusing on the inactive for lynching. I don't know why, but it almost feels like they're trying a little too hard? Again, gut feeling, slight scum.
BB is slight town to me, they also noted the defense of Yun. They also were on the Yun wagon, so, yeah. Slight town.
Nictis is Nictis. Pretty heavy on the memeing this time around, focusing a loooot on Commander Rhodes jokes. I've got a few ideas here, but nothing solid. Solid Town, but that doesn't really say anything, because Nictis always looks like solid town. Good setup spec, though, and pushing the spotlight around, which is good.
So, with that, I'm gonna throw a vote on @QTesseract . They haven't actually been debating or engaging (ironic of me to say that), so, that seems like something I should poke them about.
[X] Lynch QTesseract
Alright, joking aside, here's my thoughts:
Qtesseract: 3 posts this day, one meme vote, one setup spec post, and one lore correction on the part of vampirism. Pretty much neutral imo.
Dguy: Dimensional started out assuming there was a cult, seems to have been focusing on Nictis both seriously and memevote wise, they mentioned lesser participation. Slight scumread, leaning towards neutral. 4 posts today.
Swarmingu: New player, new player, new player! But also, only 1 in game post at all, and that was an RP thing. Probably just newbie stuff, but still, that's enough to get me looking more closely at them.
Absum: Absum's got 6 posts today, they're engaging, performing analysis, and showing good caution on not bandwagoning too much! Relatively solid town read there.
Yun: Yun's spent a good half of his posts being anti-meme, but recognizing that he can't really do anything about it. The main thing of substance he's posted has been suspicion thrown at people assuming it's a cult game. Slight scum read, especially since multiple people have said stuff about their roles suggesting cult.
Happery: Happery's mostly been memeing. They also voted Yun for their stance on avoiding the meme phase, which is eh to me. They read a pretty solid neutral, leaning slight scum.
Comiturtle: Meme meme meme...They read actually slight scum to me, just by sheer audacity. The whole vampyre thing just seems a little off. Slight scum read, mostly on gut feelings.
Oshha: Town Read. They've been consistently posting, debating, and helping to poke inactives. Good work!
1KBestK: They seem to have been very focused against getting the lynch off Yun, pushing very hard that the whole thing is based on faulty reasoning. Neutral read, but that (and Yun's) would be reevaluated if one of them turns out to be scum.
Nanimani: They needed sleep, and I'm gonna be real, I think they revealed a little more than they probably meant to. Their role apparently doesn't make much sense if there isn't a cultafia (or at least, visible effects). So, solid Town for now, I don't believe that they'd scumslip like that.
Dovah seems to be trying to be more active, though they're kinda focusing on the inactive for lynching. I don't know why, but it almost feels like they're trying a little too hard? Again, gut feeling, slight scum.
BB is slight town to me, they also noted the defense of Yun. They also were on the Yun wagon, so, yeah. Slight town.
Nictis is Nictis. Pretty heavy on the memeing this time around, focusing a loooot on Commander Rhodes jokes. I've got a few ideas here, but nothing solid. Solid Town, but that doesn't really say anything, because Nictis always looks like solid town. Good setup spec, though, and pushing the spotlight around, which is good.
So, with that, I'm gonna throw a vote on @QTesseract . They haven't actually been debating or engaging (ironic of me to say that), so, that seems like something I should poke them about.
[X] Lynch QTesseract
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I'm cool with a QT wagon. I honestly am kind of surprised by how under-the-radar they'e been, actually.
[X] Lynch QTesseract
[X] Lynch QTesseract
Okay a post with format that isn't a mess.
Hm. That is certainly one possibility, and something to make a note about.
Hm. That is certainly one possibility, and something to make a note about.
Advice I will aim to keep in mind for future games.
Hm. That will bias you towards looking at players who don't meme, but there isn't anything to do about that is time efficient from my pov. Well beyond keeping it mind obviously.
Hm. My initial thought on the topic is that it is a result of the case against me being rather lacking in evidence, but based upon my knowledge of the game that is true for most day one lynches. I'll see about looking through them more carefully for anything odd.
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So, in all honesty, I should probably give this more thought.
That said.
Is Day 1 scum's, and should we assume it to be such always?
It's something that's sort of arisen between the Lakeside Requiem game on SB, where as usual scum got an easy mislynch Day 1, and the ... agh, I wrote out something on it, but I can't talk about it. It's not my game, let's say, but I can't discuss it nor read discussion on it.
Ah, well. Speaking abstractly, let's talk about two games. One, scum drove a lynch onto Town. Me, specifically. It was easy, there were multiple factors in play, but either way scum lynched me. In a game with a higher Town vet concentration it was a scum reveal. In another totes abstract game with no basis in reality, scum again drove a lynch onto Town. This time it was a big mess. Like the other one, scum pretty much had to reveal themselves. It was an incredibly active Day 1, 48 hour timespan, and, errrm, this is very hypothetical, totally, but in general scum had to have been present and active at EoD.
On the other hand, there's a whole one game I've based my entire Day 1 philosophy on previously, and something else we won't discuss sparked my memory of it. I was in a game where someone revealed as the apparent scum--a Ghoul, to be specific. Another person revealed as a Ghoul to defend their innocence, and we lynched one of them and I vigged the other one. Neither was scum, both flipped apparent scum, it was ... an early game for me.
In my mind I've always held this up as a shining example of D1 Town pressure catching scum. Like I said, it was a while back, and I never really thought about it until now. It was obviously a complete failure on Town's part. So I've always kind of tried to pressure inactives heavily to elicit a scum claim and catch scum, like I would have sworn had happened before ... but that wasn't ever a thing, and I'm honestly not sure what to do D1 anymore as a rule.
I suppose I still believe it's possible to catch scum D1 without some kind of massive scumslip and that scum won't always have the D1 lynch, but it feels like naïveté. Day 1 scum is so much more informed than Town, and I've seen scum mislynch with ease too many times. With an experienced hand, I'm honestly not sure it isn't impossible for scum to always totally guide the Day 1 lynch easily without even being very visible at all, even if the two examples that kickstarted this were certainly highly visible.
Not sure I can make this much more cohesive, but I can definitely answer questions about what I'm rambling about conceptually, but ideally I'd get some thoughts from veterans on this, prompted by my own disorganized musings on it. What have you seen? What do you believe as far as Day 1?
That said.
Is Day 1 scum's, and should we assume it to be such always?
It's something that's sort of arisen between the Lakeside Requiem game on SB, where as usual scum got an easy mislynch Day 1, and the ... agh, I wrote out something on it, but I can't talk about it. It's not my game, let's say, but I can't discuss it nor read discussion on it.
Ah, well. Speaking abstractly, let's talk about two games. One, scum drove a lynch onto Town. Me, specifically. It was easy, there were multiple factors in play, but either way scum lynched me. In a game with a higher Town vet concentration it was a scum reveal. In another totes abstract game with no basis in reality, scum again drove a lynch onto Town. This time it was a big mess. Like the other one, scum pretty much had to reveal themselves. It was an incredibly active Day 1, 48 hour timespan, and, errrm, this is very hypothetical, totally, but in general scum had to have been present and active at EoD.
On the other hand, there's a whole one game I've based my entire Day 1 philosophy on previously, and something else we won't discuss sparked my memory of it. I was in a game where someone revealed as the apparent scum--a Ghoul, to be specific. Another person revealed as a Ghoul to defend their innocence, and we lynched one of them and I vigged the other one. Neither was scum, both flipped apparent scum, it was ... an early game for me.
In my mind I've always held this up as a shining example of D1 Town pressure catching scum. Like I said, it was a while back, and I never really thought about it until now. It was obviously a complete failure on Town's part. So I've always kind of tried to pressure inactives heavily to elicit a scum claim and catch scum, like I would have sworn had happened before ... but that wasn't ever a thing, and I'm honestly not sure what to do D1 anymore as a rule.
I suppose I still believe it's possible to catch scum D1 without some kind of massive scumslip and that scum won't always have the D1 lynch, but it feels like naïveté. Day 1 scum is so much more informed than Town, and I've seen scum mislynch with ease too many times. With an experienced hand, I'm honestly not sure it isn't impossible for scum to always totally guide the Day 1 lynch easily without even being very visible at all, even if the two examples that kickstarted this were certainly highly visible.
Not sure I can make this much more cohesive, but I can definitely answer questions about what I'm rambling about conceptually, but ideally I'd get some thoughts from veterans on this, prompted by my own disorganized musings on it. What have you seen? What do you believe as far as Day 1?
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What makes Yun inactivity null and QT's inactivity incredibly suspect, out of curiosity?
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Right i haven't vote.
[x] Lynch QTesseract
For some reason i didn't receive any notification until people start tagging me.
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You did vote QT earlier actually; why are you supporting his wagon over the TMR wagon? The reasoning isn't dissimilar.
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No, they didn't, they have a grant total of three posts and only the third one has a vote in it.
"8.5" Hour warning
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Did you not read my last post?
Nictis
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Voting patterns and reasoning.
Day One is only useless if everyone agrees or if nobody goes back to look at stuff. Sometimes scum can coast because it's not one of them up for the lynch, you can later compare how much someone gets into a lynch argument they disagree with then to what they are arguing against. Town is most likely to die Day 1 but you can see who is willing to speak up for who, and who is willing to speak against who. You can see who follows the wagons a little too closely, or who tries to buddy up with others.
Day One is usually Scum's, but not always. There have been games where Scum are lynched Day One, and times when Scum have had to tie too closely to each other in order to avoid being lynched Day One. Writing the first Day off entirely is giving it to them.
As far as inactives go... If people stay inactive, there is no way to tell what they are. You can't get a read off of someone not playing the game, and that's just going to trip you up later at an important moment.
Nictis
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Mostly quoting these so people can see which post you meant.
Nictis
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