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Congregation of Despair (Mafia - Second Attempt)

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Cyricubed said:
The group quietly peers around, their identities obscured and the voices they knew as each others gone, warped and distorted, unable to be recognized. Even so glares of suspicion, evaluation of potential threats, and brooding dark thoughts cast a heavy overtone of the situation. Two of the congregation quietly moved the body of the servant over out of the way while another lit a group of torches and passed it around to everyone. "Everyone knows vampires will burn to dust in fire." Whether or not that was true or just rumor it was comforting to many to have some sense of personal defense. Yet another figure speaks: "We should do this for two hours and just burn whoever we decide is the obvious perpetrator. We're the smartest minds of the country after all!" No one disagreed...but for a moment it seemed no one wanted to say anything else...

It wasn't long however...until the first person raised the hand pointing at a figure in the room.


Day 1 has begun. You have 72 Hours until it is over.
-14 Members of the Congregation remain alive. Thus Hammer is set at 8.
-It will naturally end at 3:35 PM EST 6/22/2019

Let the delegations...begin.
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"How are we supposed to accuse someone with no proofs, no testimonies, nothing!" I said, emphasizing my point with various hand gestures. "We are the smartest people in the country? Then we need to act like it. Stand guard tonight and peel your eyes open before we accuse anyone."
 
Swarmingu said:
"How are we supposed to accuse someone with no proofs, no testimonies, nothing!" I said, emphasizing my point with various hand gestures. "We are the smartest people in the country? Then we need to act like it. Stand guard tonight and peel your eyes open before we accuse anyone."
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Also I assume this means you're suggesting we No Lynch? This is very rarely a good Day 1 strategy for reasons less tired people and I'll just defer you to this primer on it posted elsewhere that makes the case that it isn't inherently the worst idea ever, but is something town probably shouldn't do on D1 most of the time.

Also since this is almost certainly a cult game of some stripe, here is a good post on that. The end of the post is I think especially important so I'm going to quote it.

Terrabrand said:
Cult snowballs. This is sorta obvious if you consider what I was saying about bigger being better- an initially three man cult in a twenty player game would be able to grow to a four man, then five, then six, and so on voting block/discussion group. Not only is the culting like two kills in value, but it means a successful Cult may leave Town playing whack-a-mole with new conversions while not actually progressing towards victory, and means that where the Mafia tears down town to try to achieve majority, the Cult also builds itself up.

A mafia reels from an early loss, permanently smaller and weaker. A cult stumbles, but if town doesn't keep on winning, will retake their stride as their numbers spring back, and then up and beyond.

Not only that, but where a mafia is highly dependent on getting the best players to have the best chances, the Cult to a surprising degree only need know who the best players are. If a couple of newbs and a shaky skill player roll the three Cult roles, they can start grabbing the best, most analytical and discussion leading players, thus simultaneously robbing town like a mafia would do, but also making up for their lacking skills by literally stealing town's best and brightest.
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No lynching is actually especially bad in cult games because of that whole "cult grows exponentially" thing. In a game where the main threat is a Mafia, you're down probably 1 person the next day, maybe 2 if there's an SK (let's ignore the crosskill calculus for a moment on this). In a cult game you aren't just causing the town to be down a person, but most likely the town to be down a person and the cult to be +1, and striking while the iron is hot is kind of vital in cult games, since they are most vulnerable before they can become a power bloc.
 
checks hammer rules

Yeah, okay.

[x] Lynch Nictis

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Broken Base said:
[x] Lynch Nictis

He knows exactly why
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You couldn't be talking about... that, could you?
QTesseract said:
[x] Lynch Nictis

Obvious scum is obvious.
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Can it really be so blatant when we have no signs of demons? Of course, when there are no Demons I cannot be scum, surely?
Dovah said:
14 players, hammer at 7 ...

Yeah, Nictis is definitely scum.

[X] Lynch Nictis
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Et tu, Dovah?
 
Well I was gonna make a joke about vampires being close enough to demons and vote Nictis but err never mind :V
 
Nictis said:
checks hammer rules

Yeah, okay.

[x] Lynch Nictis

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You couldn't be talking about... that, could you?

Can it really be so blatant when we have no signs of demons? Of course, when there are no Demons I cannot be scum, surely?

Et tu, Dovah?
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Nictis said:
Wait a second...

Eh?
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8, whatever, same number.

And yes, me as well. It's a Law of Mafia that you are scum, and we have at least one newbie, which makes your probability of being scum at least (approx.) 800%.
 
Actually, I don't know if this is useful or not (on account of most of my games having been Archdemon games) but what do people expect for scum right now?

I believe the general expectation is that the main scum team will be a cult, but if so what do we think they're starting with? 2 members? 3?
 
Absum said:
I believe the general expectation is that the main scum team will be a cult, but if so what do we think they're starting with? 2 members? 3?
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Definitely not 3. Probably 2. It's slightly dependent on what power town has and if there are multiple non-town factions or town has a killing role of some sort. And we probably aren't going to have a good idea on that until D2 at the earliest.
 
Broken Base said:
I'm not seing much to this questioning aside from "player makes a typo" so if it's not early D1 zaniness, I'd be interested in some elucidation.
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It'll only really be relevant if I get lynched earlier than expected, I'm just pointing it out in case it was an actual slip.
 
Dovah said:
Honestly curious how it could be an alignment indicative slip instead of forgetting to add 1? Seems an odd thing to be a slip.
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"Accidentally" leading to the Day ending early is generally an interesting thing. Town doublevoters are usually more cautious with their votes.
 
Argh, curse my lateness and unwillingness to memevote someone with 4 votes already...

Anyway.

Dovah said:
Honestly curious how it could be an alignment indicative slip instead of forgetting to add 1? Seems an odd thing to be a slip.
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The only thing I can think of would be if you were a double voter or something along those lines. Although the wording doesn't really match up in my opinion.

Broken Base said:
Definitely not 3. Probably 2. It's slightly dependent on what power town has and if there are multiple non-town factions or town has a killing role of some sort. And we probably aren't going to have a good idea on that until D2 at the earliest.
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This is my first cult game, so I don't really know of the usual ratios, but has there ever been a cult with 3 initial members? Probably not at this size, though...
What would be the odds of there only being 1 initial member of a cult? Or is it always minimum of 2?
 
(Flight delay means I'm here this moment.)

Adjusts extensive colar and flares cape in a flamboyant manner. "Who dares enter my domain reveal thyself as per the traditions! I am Vampyre, Prince Romano of Antonia kneel knaves and usurpers before me!"
 
Nictis said:
"Accidentally" leading to the Day ending early is generally an interesting thing. Town doublevoters are usually more cautious with their votes.
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I mean, yeah, but ... anyway.
ComiTurtle said:
(Flight delay means I'm here this moment.)

Adjusts extensive colar and flares cape in a flamboyant manner. "Who dares enter my domain reveal thyself as per the traditions! I am Vampyre, Prince Romano of Antonia kneel knaves and usurpers before me!"
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Well, there you go.

[X] Lynch ComiTurtle
 
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