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Chronicles of Nations - Civ Quest
- Thread starter Oshha
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- Original
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- United States
Well, we currently aren't even a Theocracy anymore; we are essentially European "I rule because I have the blood of the Gods" hereditary monarchy.
Even if Arthryn doesn't necessarily want the Temple, building it puts more focus on the Gods and could move the priests up in influence to combat the newly formed nobility.
10ebbor10
DON'T PANIC
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Yeah, this is an important thing to note. If people want to get rid of the heriditary monarchy and it's equality destroying trait, then we need to avoid building the Temple.
Random Member
Gardener of Human Happiness
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No, we should be building the Temple, but in such a way that it'll ruin our Econ and cause an artificial famine. People will be hungry and their hate will turn towards the monarchy.
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- Philippines
just a thought... would this cause a strain in the Maradysh and the people?
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- United States
[X] [MAIN] Settlements (Greenbay)
10ebbor10
DON'T PANIC
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It could turn towards the Monarchy, or towards the Temple, in which case the remaining restrictions on the Monarch's power will blow up.
Building the Temple increases stability (ie, more support for the status quo); while not building it does something mysterious, I assume a priestly soft coup.
Legion0047
Retired Shadowrunner.
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- God Emperor
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I would think it cause the opposite reaction?
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- United States
Hmm @Oshha in what context is this Temple being built?
Is it to place more importance on the Goddesses as we did in times before the Cadion?
Is it to appease the anger of Arthryn?
Is it to give the Priests a greater role and allow for more communion with the Goddesses?
I feel like the context is really important for this.
Is it to place more importance on the Goddesses as we did in times before the Cadion?
Is it to appease the anger of Arthryn?
Is it to give the Priests a greater role and allow for more communion with the Goddesses?
I feel like the context is really important for this.
Random Member
Gardener of Human Happiness
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Communal Mandate
As per the words of the goddess, loyalty and kindness to one's people is of the highest importance and even when times are tough or when it is not personally beneficial, one should stick by their community.
Pros: Reduced Internal Discontent, Increased Resistance to Foreign Intrigue,
Cons: Increase stability loss from taking actions which harm the People,
An artificial famine will cause great Stability loss, likely also a loss of Legitimacy. If the King responds to this by doubling down on the Temple instead of trying to alleviate the hunger problems, it'll cause a further loss of Legitimacy. At that point, certain Factions will be so done with this shit they'll be working on getting rid of the monarchy.
Yeah, but we'll lose innovations by doing that. Which is really shitty to lose.
Random Member
Gardener of Human Happiness
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Sacrifices are sometimes needed for the greater good. I wish people would understand that instead of always choosing stability over all else....
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Solution is simple, we need a way to cause social stratification wich will in turn cause Arthryn to punish the people all the while not building temples and shrines wich will show to the people that Kings had become arrogant enough not to care for goddesses and their warnings.
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You're all effectively choosing to abuse our Madoka.
She'll never collectively punish us (I think), and so you do everything that you know will upset her but dont care cuz you'll never face the reprecussions.
You're all bullis, undeserving of our mother's love.
#revoketheblessing.
She'll never collectively punish us (I think), and so you do everything that you know will upset her but dont care cuz you'll never face the reprecussions.
You're all bullis, undeserving of our mother's love.
#revoketheblessing.
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Do not worry comrade stability will ultimately lead to stratification of society and divine punishment.
It only takes one hero after all.
I mean, we don't. We've definitely chosen actions that decreased stability before. I just don't think that sacrifice is a good one. Much prefer to just Main settlements. Then do some exploration of those mountains, they might have some new ores. Ignore the goddesses completely, and when their wrath comes down on the heads of the Monarchy, boom. Change.
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Personally, I can't say I'm surprised by this. The 'Born Equal' value was always the anachronistic and awkward value, in practice there's a reason almost all stable and successful societies defaulted forwards a hereditary ruling class of some sort.
Our Godess personally intervening to keep it also isn't a shock. We have a strong goddess in a low fantasy setting while our civilization is a theocracy - of course something like this would come up.
Our Godess personally intervening to keep it also isn't a shock. We have a strong goddess in a low fantasy setting while our civilization is a theocracy - of course something like this would come up.
See, the problem is that you have a different idea than others about what exactly 'the greater good' actually entails.
Omegahugger
Inattentive Idiot
*unfolds giant banner saying "Wyrn did nothing wrong!"*
10ebbor10
DON'T PANIC
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Yup. This happened because people kept constantly picking the shiniest heir.
There may be a problem there, because society changes Gods. Support social stratification too much, and you may very well break them and get divinely enforced stratification.
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To my shame, we are actually no longer a Theocracy. We are now hereditary monarchy with "divine" rulers.
Just because successful societies default to it does not mean I want to default to it. I don't care about being successful if we become a husk of our former selves in the process.
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Indeed everything is going towards her master plan of overthrowing her mother and becoming head goddess