DarkKing98
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I admit, the more we talk, the less I wanna be the Clan Head. It's feels like an unsavable situation we'd be in. Maybe it's for the best that we let the Clan officially disband.
Tohsaka as an Uchiha Quest (Naruto/FSN)
- Thread starter AoMythology
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- Crossover
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Hmm, maybe we could have someone else as temp clan head and in the future, forgo the whole thing entirely for council system or something instead. We could be the assistant of the temp clan head in terms of diplomacy and shit we're good at. Be the uchiha poster girl showing off our greatness to other people while take care of talking with other clan and village since our people are shit at it.
We don't really have enough adult members of a clan left to do that. It's closest to...Rin at the start of FSN canon. She's theoretically the heir to a hell of a lot of property, but basically all of it is tied up in maintaining the property so she doesn't really do anything fancy with it without risking losing the rest of it. Because the previous guardian was a bastard.
What Clan Head SHOULD mean right now in the Uchiha's diminished state is...diplomacy, policy. I'd peg it to maybe one more decision point per turn TBH. Most of the paperwork you can delegate.
DarkKing98
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Good news everyone! I did some math with the mechanics. And this is what I got.
Wind, Fire, and Yin Release all get at least Beyond Colossal growth.
Wind, Fire, and Yin Release all get at least Beyond Colossal growth.
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We might have context from Fugaku's lessons. Also it will be hard for everyone, since political landscape changed a lot.
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Actually, all seven get Colossal Beyond Colossal just from the new Average One upgrade. This is before other boosts, so I doubt Wind, Fire, and Yin release were lowered.
DarkKing98
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Reader. Beyond Colossal is a bigger boost than Colossal and Colossal-Beyond Colossal. Colossal-Beyond Colossal is the inbetween step from Colossal and Beyond Colossal.
Lets just call it Plus Ultra
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Isn't that BEYOND HUMANITY, in this case?
DarkKing98
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*double checks traits and stat boosts*
Correction. Wind and Fire Release get around Beyond Colossal boost. Yin Release though?
Yin Release gets a Beyond Colossal-Sky High boost.
Correction. Wind and Fire Release get around Beyond Colossal boost. Yin Release though?
Yin Release gets a Beyond Colossal-Sky High boost.
I feel like part of the argument here is that some people don't realize what kind of government Konoha has. Konoha is not a democracy or even a meritocracy, since the only merit that matters is power. People are not chosen to lead because they are good leaders. They get chosen because they are the child/student of the previous leader and/or because they are strong.
Here, the Clan heads family is unavailable due to treason and everyone else is dead. We are probably next in the line of succession. Not to mention we are a genius that makes Itachi look slow and helped defeat Danzo. We have the qualifications.
And it's clear the clan needs us. Just look how badly our temp leader is doing right now that we need to step in and fix his mistakes.
The question here is not whether we can lead. Its whether we want to lead. For me it depends on how it change the game. I would rather go with the cannon route. Going to school, getting a team and going on missions until we become legendarily strong. If becoming Clan leader means we have to stay at home, I would rather pass.
Here, the Clan heads family is unavailable due to treason and everyone else is dead. We are probably next in the line of succession. Not to mention we are a genius that makes Itachi look slow and helped defeat Danzo. We have the qualifications.
And it's clear the clan needs us. Just look how badly our temp leader is doing right now that we need to step in and fix his mistakes.
The question here is not whether we can lead. Its whether we want to lead. For me it depends on how it change the game. I would rather go with the cannon route. Going to school, getting a team and going on missions until we become legendarily strong. If becoming Clan leader means we have to stay at home, I would rather pass.
Whoa now! Let's not get crazy. The Uchiha Clan isn't a clubhouse, it's an estate. When you disband a major political organization, the first thing you do is liquidate all assets. The second thing you do is divvy up the profits to the major shareholders. The third thing you do is scatter and adopt new identities.
Seeing as Rin here just got finished saying she wants to keep the rest of her family close, that's not on the table. Right now I think she'd risk her life to save a relative's pet goldfish.
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I really want to know what impact it would have to the quest format, since I'm not interested in changing it.
AoMythology, what exactly does the clan head do? Why do the Uchiha need a formal clan head?
AoMythology, what exactly does the clan head do? Why do the Uchiha need a formal clan head?
AoMythology
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She can delegate most of the paperwork to Haru* (and maybe Itachi too, if he can be convinced) - right now, she needs to climb up the official ranks and get stronger. Even the Uchiha know that.
Considering this is no longer nearly as large a clan, and most members are civilians (with only Haru and Tekka an exception), including the children and possibly Teyaki, if I decide that he survived - well, she won't need to sink that much time.
Fugaku probably had plenty of free time before he started planning a coup, too.
*Haru is a Water specialist without the Sharingan and with a not-so-good talent for Fire Release. She can't be Head according to herself and Tekka both.
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Are we going to have any problems with Sasuke if Ron becomes the head of the clan?
I mean even if Rin has just saved his life, he has quite a problem when people surpass him.
AoMythology
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What paperwork?
I've never heard of a real-world clan where paperwork was involved... except maybe organized crime, but I imagine even there the accounting would get delegated. What's the paperwork for? Adopting all the newly orphaned Uchihas?
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DarkKing98
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Bills, inheritance, politics with the rest of the village and many other things.
I may be wrong, but aren't the clan heads part of the government? I feel like Konoha is less a single government and more an alliance of various clans who are still semi-autonomous. So if the Hokage is king, the clan heads are Dukes. In fact, don't the various clans control their own districts within the city and run their own businesses?
Yes. Basically a Count though, no subordinate non Uchiha shinobi clans.
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[X]You finish off Danzo.
[X]Mama
[X]How not to be an asshole, by Teyaki
[X]Secret option: Shisui's notes
[X]You intervene
[X]Mama
[X]How not to be an asshole, by Teyaki
[X]Secret option: Shisui's notes
[X]You intervene
DarkKing98
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@AoMythology I wanna ask. What would Shisui's speed have ranked at while he was using the Shunshin?
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I'd like confirmation from @AoMythology. Clan leadership could involve anything. It could mean keeping the entire compound running as though it were under our ownership, unlikely because then Fugaku would keep the headship as the primary land owner, to being an entirely social role where we have no financial responsibilities at all but are expected to visit all the members of the clan regularly and help organize festivals and the like. It could even be a simple mouthpiece type role, where we just occasionally say the clan's "official position" on a variety of political matters, independent of the opinions of the individuals in the clan. Or we could be settling disputes between clansmen. We don't really know what the job is yet.
AoMythology
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All adult clan members pay taxes to the clan to a point, but there are also benefits from those taxes. Think insurance, orphans are taken care of by clan funds, and such. The Clan Head does, thus, have some financial responsibilities - so, paperwork too. He/she is not the main land owner, though, and the money is not for him/her.
The Clan Head doesn't have to visit everyone (especially before, when it was so large). The head also represents the Clan in gatherings of the Jounin Council, and has a say in who is picked as Hokage if the previous one died without picking a successor. Disputes only reach the Clan Head if they are sufficiently serious.
The Clan Head is also the person the rest of the village, or at least the high-placed people like the Hokage, interacts with the most.
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Our S++ Diplomacy should be greatly useful for those tasks.