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Terrabrand said:
15 hours, 41 minutes remain.
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Saved by P.M. Instead of A.M. I can actually sleep!
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TheMaskedReader said:
Alright, I'm here, briefly. Uh, nothing's happened yet...back to poker, I guess.
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TheMaskedReader said:
This shit isn't right. You might be Town, but I remember my first game, and when Terrabrand asked me, I gave it, and the only reason I wasn't modkilled was because I was new. I'll join this policy lynch, because this behavior isn't alright.


It still is shitty and will get people modkilled. First day isn't for pinpointing scum, it's for analysis of posts to see habits and such. Lynches are typically either policy, fuckups, or randos. This is a firm policy lynch for me.

[X] Lynch TPK
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TheMaskedReader said:
And that is why we have decided to lynch him. Because fluff claims like that, aren't cool, fun, or good for town. Not only have GMs put in measures to stop this, things we might not know about (ex, changing words in fluff for this exact reason.), but, as others have pointed out, it's not fun. Ever since I nearly got modkilled for it in my first game, I've avoided it ever since. It's certainly a valid way of doing this, but so is rolling dice to pick someone to lynch. There are better ways that don't get people pissed off. If TPK wants us to lynch Nani, then post an analysis of their posts and why they think that Nani is scummy.
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This is the entirety of TMR's posts. (Sans his interest post.)

First post is a basic post noticing not much has happened in a bit less than 2 pages of day 1. Then saying they were playing some poker, eh thats fine.

Second post is joining the policy lynch on TPK citing their first game as a proponent for why they were pro-such action however it isn't adding much to the conversation just agreeing with a personal story as to why. Also I disagree that day 1 isn't a day to search for scum everyday is to search for scum.

Third post just reiteration... (to be fair just about everyone has reiterated.)

TMR has the lowest number of posts and I need to sleep while ceasing this tie from continuing to exist.

[X] Null Nanimani
[X] Lynch TheMaskedReader

Fair question to ask me is why go for TMR when you earlier seemed confident in Shadow Shinobi being scum, or at least a person of interest? My response "Its their first game they get to at least live 1 day." This also applies to Rikimaru.

Rikimaru said:
Nanimani is WITHOUT A DOUBT Vi-TOWN

TPK you better remove your attempt at lynching Nani, when you wake up.

Also, to anyone trying to lynch Nani, you are all under suspicion if you don't change to some less talkative/useful/whatever player. Kill Shinobi or TPK or something.
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You don't get to say this when you were on the side that was essentially saying scum must have town's Role name, and Policy lynch TPK cause he is evil for using "flavor" to scum hunt. So thus Nani revealing evidence indicating they are aware of Town Role name shouldn't have an effect on you nor prove they are town to you they should firmly be the same as they were in your mind before. That isn't even mentioning the fact that Nani's reveal came after atk50 apparent hint that I don't understand weakening the reveal.

Rikimaru said:
Comi Turtle might not be scum, but COULD be a neutral evil. Scum factions aren't gonna collude in a way like TPK and Comi are interacting probably naturally.

ComiTurtle is too actively supporting in TPK's questionable murder boner against Nani, ESPECIALLY WHEN TPK HAS SAID AT LEAST ONCE THAT NANI PROBABLY IS TOWN.
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I'm starting to think you may be an Exe on me flailing your arms and pointing doesn't really work direct quote me man. I agreed with the logic of TPK something that currently had the game in a tied state with how contentious it was.
 
Rikimaru said:
Nanimani is WITHOUT A DOUBT Vi-TO
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False. Nani is confirmed to know town's name, but scum could be aware of that, we don't know. Nani is no more confirmed town than TPK or anyone else.

It does confirm that nani isn't uninformed scum though, which was the point of the exercise. As such:

[X] Null
 
Pawn Lelouch said:
No, it doesn't mean he's town. This means that the town name thing hit a town player or mafia already knew town's name and this whole thrust of questioning was a waste of time. Passing the stupid question is far from a solid proof of allegiance in either direction.
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I should have quoted. What I considered proof was Nani being a bit more specific on what type of town role they have. While it is vague enough for a scum member to not trigger any "you can't be look-out because I am", it's not stepping on the "policy lynch" or "gonna get stabbed to death by mafia, because town won't bother interfering". Combined with how Nani is behaving completely normally to how they usually do as town...

Not to mention TPK is behaving almost identically to how he was LAST GAME when he was scum. Last game he was aggressively after one person, and this game he is too. The main difference being is that last game he was caught literally blowing up someone night one and thus forced to defensively attack his accuser.
 
Rikimaru said:
Not to mention TPK is behaving almost identically to how he was LAST GAME when he was scum. Last game he was aggressively after one person, and this game he is too. The main difference being is that last game he was caught literally blowing up someone night one and thus forced to defensively attack his accuser.
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In other words he's doing the opposite of what he did last game by behaving proactively rather than reactively?

Like, I don't trust him much, but neither do I see your logic here.
 
ComiTurtle said:
TMR has the lowest number of posts and I need to sleep while ceasing this tie from continuing to exist.
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Sorry. I've been having a string of evemts that require me to be away from my computer, and mobile posting is horrible, so I do have a low post count.

Here, I'll give my opinion on the current situation. Both sides have laid out their arguments, and while I support one over the other, let's disregard those for the moment.

Nanimani potentially has a role for town, which, in my mind, makes them far more valuable alive than dead. TPK, on the other hand, has somewhat confirmed that he's town or informed scum. Honestly, given his sheer amount of aggressiveness towards someone with a claimed unknown role that would be useful for town, makes me more suspicious of the latter.
 
TheMaskedReader said:
Sorry. I've been having a string of evemts that require me to be away from my computer, and mobile posting is horrible, so I do have a low post count.

Here, I'll give my opinion on the current situation. Both sides have laid out their arguments, and while I support one over the other, let's disregard those for the moment.

Nanimani potentially has a role for town, which, in my mind, makes them far more valuable alive than dead. TPK, on the other hand, has somewhat confirmed that he's town or informed scum. Honestly, given his sheer amount of aggressiveness towards someone with a claimed unknown role that would be useful for town, makes me more suspicious of the latter.
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Being fair, he was aggressively against me since before that point, and my claim was kind of a side thing to what we were actually arguing about.
If you wanna lynch him, go for what he was arguing for, not for ignoring something that in the end, really didn't mean all that much.
 
Nanimani said:
Being fair, he was aggressively against me since before that point, and my claim was kind of a side thing to what we were actually arguing about.
If you wanna lynch him, go for what he was arguing for, not for ignoring something that in the end, really didn't mean all that much.
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As you don't seem to want your would-be-killer from dying, whom would'st thou recommend? not saying I will back you up, but it would be potentially useful to know.
 
Rikimaru said:
As you don't seem to want your would-be-killer from dying, whom would'st thou recommend? not saying I will back you up, but it would be potentially useful to know.
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There's a reason I'm voting for him, you know. (Though to be fair, I think he's town so I'll probably be changing to shadow seeker) I just argue with what I see as wrong, position doesn't matter here. If an argument's wrong, that should be pointed out.
 
Ehh, gonna go to bed now, busyish tomorrow so just gonna leave the lynch vote on TPK.
 
You all have about 12 hours and 11 minutes to settle the lynch before day ends on it's own.

Odds are good I'll be asleep most of that period, so there may be a delay on night start, but if the hammer falls talking should cease even if I'm not there to handle mod stuff.
 
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Look.

At this point, I'm tired and annoyed and tempted to leak it in public so that we can move on to more productive, more ethical means of interrogation.

I, too, will head to bed now.


Pre-post edit:

... I forgot to post this.

Argh.

TL;DR: If I didn't think it would set off a witch hunt after me for being anti-town, I'd leak based on principle.
 
I just woke up. Gimme a minute.

Alright, thank you Nani. Hopefully we can move back to the normal level of antipathy between people who don't like how the other person plays the game.

And just to make sure that the question absolutely cannot he used again, as per my stated intentions, Town's faction name is Village People. Once again, simply knowing this does not automatically make Nani or I Town. We could possibly be informed Scum, by personally I doubt it at this point. Nani's long refusal, followed by him coming through, makes his position much firmer. An informed Scum would have just answered to get out from under pressure.

@Nanimani , why do you have shadow shinobi as a suspect?

[X] Null
 
Apologies for inactivity, things elsewhere exploded in my face a little and I've been coping with that.

My concern with TPK has always been him harming the game. Whether it be the town's chances through paranoia, or later the spirit of the game through weird plays.

So, with first Terrabrand giving it his "on the edge, but okay" and this matter deescalating a little, I'm going to throw my own hat in towards furthering that deescalation.

[X] Null TPK
 
Well, it's nice and all, but... @TPK, still at the top of the list. You don't want to be lynched, you might want to help think of who else to lynch then.
 
Bah. I'll go ahead and make the self preservation vote. My free time schedule might not let me wait until I hear the reasons, but Nani's not a poor player so I'll extend a little trust in return.

[x] lynch Shadow Shinobi
 
Lynching the SV mafia newbie is kinda harsh, however...

Eh, what the hell. I'll put a vote on someone already voted for. Sorry TMR.

[X] Lynch TheMaskedReader
 
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