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Day 1:
Nanimani: Lynch atk50 (1)
Phoenixian: Lynch TPK (1)
ComiTurtle: Lynch Nanimani (1)
Atk50: Lynch Nanimani (2)
Lelouch: Lynch Rikimaru (1)
TPK: Lynch atk50 (2)
Rikimaru: Lynch Shadow Shinobi (1)
Winged Cat: Lynch Nanimani (3)
Phoenixian: Null TPK (0)
Phoenixian: Lynch Shadow Shinobi (2)
Rikimaru: Null Shadow Shinobi (1)
Rikimaru: Lynch JoeBobJoe
Shadow Shinobi: Lynch Rikimaru (2)
Rikimaru: Null JoeBobJoe (0)
Nanimani: Null atk50 (1)
Nanimani: Lynch Rikimaru (3)
Rikimaru: Lynch Megaolix (1)
Bahn: Lynch Rikimaru (4)
Bahn: Null Rikimaru (3)
Bahn: Lynch Nanimani (4)
LDJ: Lynch JoeBobJoe (1)
AlphaDelta: Lynch Shadow Shinobi (3)
TPK: Null atk50 (0)
TPK: Lynch Nanimani (5)
Shadow Shinobi: Null Rikimaru (2)
Shadow Shinobi: Lynch Nanimani (6)
Bahn: Null Nanimani (5)
Nanimani: Null Rikimaru (2)
Nanimani: Lynch TPK (1)
TMR: Lynch TPK (2)
Phoenixian: Null Shadow Shinobi (2)
Phoenixian: Lynch TPK (3)
Shadow Shinobi: Null Nanimani (4)
Shadow Shinobi: Lynch TPK (4)
Rikimaru: Null Megaolix (0)
RIkimaru: Lynch TPK (5)
AlphaDelta: Null Shadow Shinobi (1)
AlphaDelta: Lynch TPK (6)
Rikimaru: Null TPK (5)
LDJ: Null JoeBobJoe (0)
LDJ: Lynch AlphaDelta (1)
Rikimaru: Lynch ComiTurtle (1)
LDJ: Null AlphaDelta (0)
LDJ: Lynch Nanimani (5)
Shadow Shinobi: Null TPK (4)
Shadow Shinobi: Lynch Nanimani (6)
JoeBobJoe: Lynch TPK (5)
Rikimaru: Null Comiturtle (0)
Rikimaru: Lynch TPK (6)
ComiTurtle: Null Nanimani (5)
ComiTurtle: Lynch TMR (1)
LDJ: Null Nanimani (4)
TPK: Null Nanimani (3)
Phoenixian: Null TPK (5)
TPK: Lynch Shadow Shinobi (2)
Megaolix: Lynch TMR (2)
TPK: Null Shadow Shinobi (1)
TPK: Lynch TMR (3)
 
Megaolix said:
Honestly? Your name was in the tally with one vote. And I don,t feel like shadow did anything to get lynched on first day on the first SV game.

Wish I had any better reason, but it IS day 1.
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I mean, I did make a response to the person who voted for me, and I hope that @ComiTurtle will take their vote off of me.

Also, I thought we just had a whole debate about rando day-one stuff.
 
Hmm, nothing much said in the past 9 hours. Weird.

Since TPK has toned down a bit, maybe we could all just mass Nulls? let scum faction be the first to draw blood?

[X]Null Lynch
 
*finally has signal*

Since the chances of me having reception is not very good, I'll maintain my vote.
 
Rikimaru said:
Hmm, nothing much said in the past 9 hours. Weird.

Since TPK has toned down a bit, maybe we could all just mass Nulls? let scum faction be the first to draw blood?

[X]Null Lynch
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[x] Vote Rikimaru

If you try and do this I will vote you last minute since it benefits scum and you suggested it. While this is probably just a newbie mistake it doesn't change the fact that going this route massively benefits scum early on.

It does so by reducing the amount of information that we gain Day 1, since voting patterns and arguments are key to that. Removing those leaves town's night actions as completely blind shots. What we have so far honestly isn't very useful, since its basically just TPK and Nani's argument with people taking sides based on whether they liked the vector of TPK'd argument or not. It means that the two of them are likely going to be visited by somebody tonight but thats really it.

There is also the fact that not killing Day 1 means we pass up a chance to get lucky and kill a mafia player. The problem is if we go this route whose to argue that we don't do it again, right? After all, we don't know for sure that the person we are lynching is actually scum after all. Why should we risk it?

Thats where you get by following this line of thought to the inevitable conclusion, just letting mafia pick us off one by one while we just try and make sure that we are 100% certain that somebody is guilty before lynching them and we don't have the time and numbers for that (even at full D1 strength).
 
Pawn Lelouch said:
[x] Vote Rikimaru

If you try and do this I will vote you last minute since it benefits scum and you suggested it. While this is probably just a newbie mistake it doesn't change the fact that going this route massively benefits scum early on.

It does so by reducing the amount of information that we gain Day 1, since voting patterns and arguments are key to that. Removing those leaves town's night actions as completely blind shots. What we have so far honestly isn't very useful, since its basically just TPK and Nani's argument with people taking sides based on whether they liked the vector of TPK'd argument or not. It means that the two of them are likely going to be visited by somebody tonight but thats really it.

There is also the fact that not killing Day 1 means we pass up a chance to get lucky and kill a mafia player. The problem is if we go this route whose to argue that we don't do it again, right? After all, we don't know for sure that the person we are lynching is actually scum after all. Why should we risk it?

Thats where you get by following this line of thought to the inevitable conclusion, just letting mafia pick us off one by one while we just try and make sure that we are 100% certain that somebody is guilty before lynching them and we don't have the time and numbers for that (even at full D1 strength).
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OH SHIT! does it benefit scum?

[X] Lynch TPK
 
Yeah my null vote was just me thinking "oh no don't want to risk killing town" even though we just need to be killing one scum every 2 or 3 townThat does make sense. And it's not like TPK can't be mafia.

Thanks for that atk and Lelouch
 
Hum. Don't know how long until the day ends, which means I may not have time to read through the thread.
I think shadow, Bahn, or ldj are more likely to be maf than you currently, and I'm also well-disposed to you since you were the first person to step in on my side, back when it was uncertain if anyone would.
However, I definitely believe TPK is town, and switching my vote to one of those three would tie it. If there turns out to be time, I'll make an argument on... gut feeling says ldj, but I need to make sure we're not lynching a town first.

[X] Lynch TheMaskedReader
 
[X] Lynch TheMaskedReader

As much as I dislike what he's done, I must admit TPK is more likely a townie then TMR.
 
TPK said:
@Nanimani , why do you have shadow shinobi as a suspect?
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I'll answer with quotes.
shadow shinobi said:
Tpk is being pushy I don't like it.

[X] null vote
[X]lynch TPK
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shadow shinobi said:
I know I'm new but could it be possible that TPK doesn't know the town name and is trying to pressure someone in this case nani to tell him what is is.
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shadow shinobi said:
But it could be him just carefully constructing his posts to appear that he actually knows the answer we can see them or hear their voice so we can't easily tell if they are lying or not.
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First three posts after the argument started. On my side, but the reasoning on both is quite faulty.
Then he flipflops to me without giving a reason other than the presumed "Other people's arguments have convinced me.", and that's it. Basically all his activity of substance.

However, this could be due to the newbie thing, not having experience in this form of mafia, so I can understand others' reluctance to lynch him.
 
TPK said:
Nani's not a poor player so I'll extend a little trust in return.
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Also, it pains me to point it out, but my abilities at tendency analysis are par, at best. Poor is also a possible term here. If you have your own suspicions, let them out instead, please.
 
As for why ldj... It's probably bias on my end, thinking of it, but I feel I should point it out.

Other than a random vote at the beginning, the only thing ldj's done in this game is follow TPK's points in this argument. Like... He had his vote on a different target for a while, but switched to me when the sides became clear. Other than that and reiterating TPK's points, he's done nothing.
On the other hand, from my Discord archive quoting, I'm pretty sure he actually believes in what he's saying, but arguing a point that you believe in whether you're maf or town and revealing absolutely nothing else is a nice way to seem town without actually giving town behavior.
 
Nanimani said:
I think shadow, Bahn, or ldj are more likely to be maf than you currently
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How rude. I'll have you know I'm a perfectly innocent villager.

Nanimani said:
As for why ldj... It's probably bias on my end, thinking of it, but I feel I should point it out.

Other than a random vote at the beginning, the only thing ldj's done in this game is follow TPK's points in this argument. Like... He had his vote on a different target for a while, but switched to me when the sides became clear. Other than that and reiterating TPK's points, he's done nothing.
On the other hand, from my Discord archive quoting, I'm pretty sure he actually believes in what he's saying, but arguing a point that you believe in whether you're maf or town and revealing absolutely nothing else is a nice way to seem town without actually giving town behavior.
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Yeah, that's actually my genuine stance on the matter. Which is... basically all I've had solid opinions on today. Rikimaru and Shadow ping as a little off, but that may well just be because they're new, and I don't want to kill them day 1 for that.
 
That could easily just be first day bleghs, though, which is why I'm leery of calling them exactly suspicious.

I also don't want to pick on either of the new guys before N1, because it'd really be terrible if they didn't even get to play in their first game.
 
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