Star Wars: The Chosen One (An Anakin Skywalker Quest)

Ruthless+selfish+willing to kill for personal gain
Taking satisfisfaction from avenging friends doesn't mean that the killing of Maul doesn't benefit others. And there's nothing wrong with that, but the Jedi would say otherwise. On an impersonal level, it's good because it's one less enemy to the Bear Clan back home. Mercy is wasted on Maul. I've read canon books about Maul taking great delight in slaughtering his victims. Darth Maul: Shadow Hunter is one example. He's the sort of killer than Anakin can avoid being, even if he kills Maul, and appliies emotions like anger during it.
= still freaking evil. Like just because we don't go fill Nazi doesn't mean we aren't a tinpot dictator, see?
Filling a Nazi with lead doesn't make soldiers evil, yes. And being a dictator that fills Nazi with propaganda is pretty bad. So, may as well help Dooku not buy into some propaganda, by taking a more moderate stance. This means somewhere in between Yoda's cult, and Sideous's.
This is exactly what I meant when I said I won't vote for any plan that turns us into an edgelord. Hard men making hard decisions isn't something worthy of emulation, people like Palpatine and Dooku and Vader thought more or less exactly the same way as the person you describe here.
Speak for yourself. Hard men making hard decisions is what give the soft men a place to lay their head, and raise their families without worrying about the next ruthless dictator rounding them up for believing something different, and disposing of them. Doing nothing is what gives people like Palpatine, and other CANON madmen the means to steamroll their way into power. Mandalorian conquest, gangs taking over, it propagates when good people do nothing.
 
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Really, people, chill. Going with Dooku doesn't mean that we give up everything the Temple could teach us. Apart from Dooku being one of the strongest in the Order, Word of God says that we might also have access to the Correlian Order of Jedi, who probably can give us access to all the techniques/styles that Dooku doesn't know.

Also, going with Dooku gives us much more freedom than staying with the Order. Dooku, at least, seems willing to change and be flexible in his thinking. "Stagnation is death", remember? That means if we actually manage to become his heir, we'll have access to a lot of resources we can use to actually accomplish our dreams. No matter how high we climb in the Jedi Order, we'll always be under orders from the High Council. Also, Jedi are basically monks, so our own possessions are a no-go. Our own ship? Nope. Freeing all the slaves in the Outer Rim? Nope, Anakin, that's not your mission. High Council says no.

Right now, Dooku is at a crossroads. He might go Sith. Or he actually might not and adopt more of a Correlian style or actually Revan-style attitude. Come to think of it, Dooku is pretty much doing a Revan right now, just, you know, without a Malak and other Jedi following him. This is just like with Revan during the Mandalorian Wars, only instead of Mandalorians we have the Sith who aren't as active. But at least Dooku actually knows they're alive and kicking. This is our chance to actually do good. Dooku right now loves what the Jedi should stand for. He's an idealist disillusioned by the passive non-action of the Order. With us as his Padawan, he'll have a reason not to turn Sith. In canon, he didn't have anyone like that. Qui-Gon had died and it seemed like he never had much contact with Obi-Wan. We could be that link that keeps him from falling too far over the edge.

Just think about it, guys. This could be a really interesting and good thing. And for those who want to do a Revan in ten/fifteen years...Word of God already said that it's basically impossible to do. Only our friends might follow us, and that if we manage to overcome some really high DC.
 
@Arthellion Since it's such an important choice, would it be possible to count the 'leave with Dooku' votes against the 'don't leave with Dooku' votes first, and then if the don't leave votes win, compare the 'good luck' vs 'please stay' options to see which wins? Basically consolidate it into a yes or no vote, with the good luck and please stay options sub-votes of staying with the Jedi.

Because right now, nobody can really vote for the 'may the force be with you' option due to the vote splitting.

It becomes a mess if I allow that. I understand the request but that opens the door to drama. It's up to you as the voters to work together to consolidate.

Voting closes in 27 hours.
 
I think, that in the End, the GM is just trying to tell us that both the Jedi and Sith are completely valid paths and that we can become a Sith without going Full Lolz!Evil.

We may be more ruthless, Selfish, passionate and shit Sure, but we won't just kill people for no reason at all or for sadistic reason unless that's what we want.
All of this.
 
[X] [Reward] To Do all he can to free the slaves in the Outer Rim?

[X] [meetings] Accepted. This would be a great opportunity to hangout with someone who wasn't a Jedi and expand your horizons. The fact that Bail was the CHancellor just made it better!

[X] [Failure] Seriously: Yoda was the teacher, and apparently you'd been doing it the wrong way. You needed to figure out the right way

[X] [Dooku] Please stay with the Order?

[X] [Sith] Suspicious: The woman appeared harmless. Perhaps that was the danger?

[X] [Dreams] Frowned in worry and left. You would meditate to determine if this is a message from the Force or merely a bad dream.

I really do not like the "leave with Dooku"-option. It feels quite out of character, we just met him. We would also be abandoning our new friends and Siri. And we would still be stuck with the now uncompleteable "make friends"-ambition...

The only reason for us to leave would be to get revenge, which doesn't bode well for the future.
 
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Jedi Ace: Prequisite, Jedi Guardian or Jedi Sentinel
Class 1
Shields: 200
Hull: 100
AC: 10+Piloting Skill
To Hit: 10+Piloting Skill
Blaster: KD3 Light Cannon Blaster. 1D20+Piloting Skill
Ion Torpedos: N/A
Proton Torpedos: N/A
Concussive Torpedo: N/A

Class 2
Shields: 250
Hull: 125
AC: 20+Piloting Skill
To Hit: 20+Piloting Skill
Blaster: KD3 Light Cannon Blaster. 1D20+Piloting Skill
Ion Torpedos: N/A
Proton Torpedos: N/A
Concussive Torpedo: N/A

Class 3
Shields: 300
Hull: 150
AC: 30+Piloting Skill
To Hit: 30+Piloting Skill
Blaster: KD4 Heavy Cannon Blaster. 2D15+Piloting Skill
Ion Torpedos: Upon Fifth Round of a Naval Battle, May attempt to Disable a BattleShip.
Proton Torpedos: N/A
Concussive Torpedo: N/A

Class 4
Shields: 350
Hull: 175
AC: 40+Piloting Skill
To Hit: 40+Piloting Skill
Blaster: 72 Autblaster. 5D10+Piloting Skill
Ion Torpedos: Upon Fifth Round of a Naval Battle, May attempt to Disable a BattleShip.
Proton Torpedos: Upon Third Round of a Naval Battle, May Attempt to Disable a Battleship
Concussive Torpedo: N/A

Class 5
Shields: 500
Hull: 250
AC: 50+Piloting Skill
To Hit: 50+Piloting Skill
Blaster: 72 Twin AutoBlaster. 10D10+Piloting Skill
Ion Torpedos:Upon Fifth Round of a Naval Battle, May attempt to Disable a BattleShip.
Proton Torpedos: Upon Third Round of a Naval Battle, May Attempt to Disable a Battleship
Concussive Torpedo: Upon First Round of a Naval Battle, may attempt to "stun" all enemy fighters for three rounds.
Level 1: +4 To Intelligence, Charisma, Dexterity: Gain Class 1 Starship
Level 2: +4 To Intelligence, Charisma, Dexterity
Level 3: +4 To Intelligence, Charisma, Dexterity Gain Class 2 Starship
Level 4: +4 To Intelligence, Charisma, Dexterity
Level 5:+4 To Intelligence, Charisma, Dexterity Gain Class 3 Starship
Level 6: +4 To Intelligence, Charisma, Dexterity
Level 7: +4 To Intelligence, Charisma, DexterityGain Class 4 Starship
Level 8:+4 To Intelligence, Charisma, Dexterity
Level 9: +4 To Intelligence, Charisma, Dexterity; Gain Class 5 Starship

You were saying?
 
Taking satisfisfaction from avenging friends doesn't mean that the killing of Maul doesn't benefit others. And there's nothing wrong with that, but the Jedi would say otherwise. On an impersonal level, it's good because it's one less enemy to the Bear Clan back home. Mercy is wasted on Maul. I've read canon books about Maul taking great delight in slaughtering his victims. Darth Maul: Shadow Hunter is one example. He's the sort of killer than Anakin can avoid being, even if he kills Maul, and appliies emotions like anger during it.
Filling a Nazi with lead doesn't make soldiers evil, yes. And being a dictator that fills Nazi with propaganda is pretty bad. So, may as well help Dooku not buy into some propaganda, by taking a more moderate stance. This means somewhere in between Yoda's cult, and Sideous's.
Speak for yourself. Hard men making hard decisions is what give the soft men a place to lay their head, and raise their families without worrying about the next ruthless dictator rounding them up for believing something different, and disposing of them. Doing nothing is what gives people like Palpatine, and other CANON madmen the means to steamroll their way into power. Mandalorian conquest, gangs taking over, it propagates when good people do nothing.
In canon, Obi Wan Kenobi, white knight, killed Maul. Mace Windu, Hardass Jedi Paladin, wanted to kill Palpatine. He WOULD have killed Palpatine, until Anakin Hard Manned his hand off and let him get a face full of lightning. The Jedi, as an Order, have never had too much problem with the killing Sith part of the equatio , it was always the defections from their own side by- guess who- "hard men " who thought the Council too weak or soft, eho decided to be selfish, that gave them and the galaxy a hard time.

As to hard men... :rolleyes: the reason we have a place to sleep at night is because someone, or some group of people, built a little thing called civilization,, made laws to deal with other "hard men", invented things like the combustion engine and division of labor. Society is a group effort, and physical protection is only a small part of that effort, an effort which shall go to waste if "f*** you got mine" becomes the rule of the day.
 
Yes we did have the Master Teras Kasi ambition. Well done. I guess it's a good thing there's Plo Koon, who is a master of Teras Kasi, standing right there in the temple and willing to help us as he already did in this update?

Ask yourself, if we want to learn that skill, should we stick with the easily accessible, friendly master, or walk about for years and hope we find the Followers and Dooku let's us stay with them?

From a character perspective it doesn't make sense as you are claiming. We don't know Dooku, we've known him ten seconds. Also we've had the ambition to become and Jedi Knight and master Teras Kasi for years, instead of the months we've had the avenge ambition. Long term desires and lack of even a single conversation trumps anger, anger we are dealing with decently, we don't blame ourselves for it, and we've also made friends here at the Temple. A ten year old kid is not going to give up on his lifelong dreams for a spur of the moment thing with a stranger.

Let's break this down piece by Piece by piece.

Plo Koon: Yes he will help us master Teras Kasi, that is a good point. Though why would we bother focusing on him later down the line if we are just going to pick Mace Windu or Yoda as a master. Also, Plo Koon might not always be available. He is a Jedi master with a padawan of his own and can leave on missions

Skills: You trying to make it seem like the Jedi temple is the end all be all of the force skills. Dooku is a trained Jedi master who is both powerful with the force and resourceful otherwise. Also, why wouldn't Dooku be an easily accessible friendly master? We are traveling with him to avenge the death of his padawan who himself brought ut to the jedi temple. The force is not just learnable on a single planet. If we want to do the balance questline wouldn't it make more sense to travel with a Jedi master and still experience the world without the Jedi tinted glasses? Also who said I was just advocating for the followers of Plawala, they are available for recruitment and it's not my intention to double back so quickly after we chose to leave.

Long-term desires: yes, long term desires trump anger. For someone who can rationally process the emotions and deal with them in a healthy manner. Also we have interacted with the friends once while we have known in the past people like our step brother Owen and all our friends on Tatooine. Still we left.

A ten year old kid is not going to give up on his lifelong dreams for a spur of the moment thing with a stranger.

One name for you Qui- Gon- Jin. We had the same dilemma with Teras Kasi and going with master Zan.

Edit: After reciving new information I now know that the Teras Kasi option came first.
 
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Hard men making hard decisions is what give the soft men a place to lay their head, and raise their families without worrying about the next ruthless dictator rounding them up for believing something different, and disposing of them.
HAHAHAHAHA!!!. No. Hard Men Making Hard Decisions (While Hard) inevitable leads to becoming Danzo. Don't become a Danzo, you're just creating more problems, not solving them.
It becomes a mess if I allow that. I understand the request but that opens the door to drama. It's up to you as the voters to work together to consolidate.

Voting closes in 27 hours.
"Opens the door to drama", ha! You think there won't be drama no matter what choice wins?

Honestly, you should've just made it a vote between 'Stay' and 'Leave'. If there are two options for staying and only one for leaving, it's pretty obvious that the first vote is going to be split and might even lose despite a majority of the voterbase not wanting to leave.
A ten year old kid is not going to give up on his lifelong dreams for a spur of the moment thing with a stranger.

One name for you Qui- Gon- Jin. We had the same dilemma with Teras Kasi and going with master Zan.
Becoming a Jedi was Anakin's dream for several years. It wasn't just some spur of the moment thing we just came up with 5 minutes before being given the choice, like joining Dooku to possible be able to get revenge on Maul is.
 
HAHAHAHAHA!!!. No. Hard Men Making Hard Decisions (While Hard) inevitable leads to becoming Danzo. Don't become a Danzo, you're just creating more problems, not solving them
Doing something that others won't for the betterment of others is called leading. Making a difficult choice does not make you evil or controlling. Saying that one path will led to complet and total dictorial rule? that's just stupid.
"Opens the door to drama", ha! You think there won't be drama no matter what choice wins?

Honestly, you should've just made it a vote between 'Stay' and 'Leave'. If there are two options for staying and only one for leaving, it's pretty obvious that the first vote is going to be split and might even lose despite a majority of the voterbase not wanting to leave.

You seem to attack anyone now a days. Even the QM. I know is it seems tough and unfair that the QM is not coordinating people and it slightly is, but like they said it's up for the quester to solve that.
 
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Bail
[X] [Reward] To Do all he can to free the slaves in the Outer Rim?
[X] [meetings] Accepted. This would be a great opportunity to hangout with someone who wasn't a Jedi and expand your horizons. The fact that Bail was the CHancellor just made it better!


Yoda
[X] [Failure] Confused: That's the complete opposite from what Master Zan taught you. You've used your emotions all the time for years in your training and it didn't make you torture small animals or something. And now Master Yoda tells you Master Zan's teachings are wrong? You don't get it.

Dooku
[X] [Dooku] May I leave the Jedi Order and join you to hunt the SIth? (Requires 4 CP)

Sith
[X] [Sith] Curious: The Sith Code was different than that of the Jedi. Did not make either code right, but you wanted to learn more.

Dreams
[X] [Dreams] Stomped off angrily. Your family could be in trouble.
 
[] [Dreams] Went to Master Yoda to request permission to call your family. Unlocked by Lawful
[] [Dreams] Frowned, but nodded. You would have to take her advice.
[] [Dreams] Stomped off angrily. Your family could be in trouble.
[] [Dreams] Left Siri. That night you would attempt to sneak to the comms and call yourself. Unlocked by Chaotic
This bothers me quite a bit. Because we are neither chaotic nor lawful, there is NO option that allows us to try to save our family? Like really, this is our family that is in danger. For some reason, we are too lawful to break the rules for them, but still can't go ask Yoda for permission? This doesn't feel right, especially since this seems like it could be a very important vote. I am all for having an alignement system that matters, but since staying in the middle apparently closes options without opening new ones, being balanced ironically seems like a shitty deal. Why can't Anakin, who has no strong feelings about rules either way, not try to do anything to act on his dreams?
Edit: we told Siri about the dreams. She didn't believe us... Sigh...
 
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In canon, Obi Wan Kenobi, white knight, killed Maul. Mace Windu, Hardass Jedi Paladin, wanted to kill Palpatine. He WOULD have killed Palpatine, until Anakin Hard Manned his hand off and let him get a face full of lightning. The Jedi, as an Order, have never had too much problem with the killing Sith part of the equatio , it was always the defections from their own side by- guess who- "hard men " who thought the Council too weak or soft, eho decided to be selfish, that gave them and the galaxy a hard time.
Anakin never was the most stable boy in canon. He lacked a father figure, which he found in someone who wasn't suited for the purpose. Obi-Wan. Anakin was like a brother to Obi-Wan. But he didn't know how to express the love, and couldn't bring Anakin away from the manipulations of Sideous. Thanks Jedi Order for your dogmatic ways.
As to hard men... :rolleyes: the reason we have a place to sleep at night is because someone, or some group of people, built a little thing called civilization,, made laws to deal with other "hard men", invented things like the combustion engine and division of labor. Society is a group effort, and physical protection is only a small part of that effort, an effort which shall go to waste if "f*** you got mine" becomes the rule of the day.
And when the civilization is corrupt, or full of ineffectual beauraucrats, then what? When it's filled with idiots who'd follow a popular sentiment, based on false information, or led the sort of hard men who have bad morality, what will you do? Look at Khaleesh's history with the Republic.
HAHAHAHAHA!!!. No. Hard Men Making Hard Decisions (While Hard) inevitable leads to becoming Danzo. Don't become a Danzo, you're just creating more problems, not solving them.
You point out one outlier example from an different franchise, out of the countless hard men who have ever existed. See, thing about Danzo is, he recruited kids, forcibly, with seals that altered their minds. He lobotomized ROOT agents. No emotion. Following blindly. Now Jedi...
 
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A ship whose owner is the Jedi Order and that we only get if we go Jedi Ace (something I truly doubt, as SV would never go Jedi Ace over the other specializations).

I really do not like the "leave with Dooku"-option. It feels quite out of character, we just met him. We would also be abandoning our new friends and Siri. And we would still be stuck with the now uncompleteable "make friends"-ambition...

The only reason for us to leave would be to get revenge, which doesn't bode well for the future.

I think leaving with Dooku isn't all that OOC at all. We already felt the dogma of the Order and its inability to actually act. We were frustrated with that. We actually bonded with Dooku over our vision of Obi-Wan and can empathize here. He's of similar mind and he's just lost his family. That actually makes him more sympathetic. We also don't know our new friends or Siri long enough to be all that torn up about leaving.

This isn't just about getting revenge for Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon. From Ani's point of view, it's about doing the right thing: hunting down the Sith monsters who hurt people. Something the Order seemingly doesn't want to do, and here's a Jedi Master who has similar problems with the Jedi Order, who thinks they're not doing enough and who actually wants to go out there and do something. It would be very IC to actually try to join him.

In any case, our GM is a good enough GM to make this decision fit the narrative. Otherwise, he wouldn't have offered the choice.
 
If you can source this then I will change my post to include this fact. Thank you for the heads up.
[X] To Make Owen Your Friend: You are tired of the unfriendly relationship you have with your step brother and wish it to be better. (300 Experience Points.): 39 Votes
[X] To Build a Droid: You always wanted to build your own droid. (1,000 Experience Points. 1 Chosen Points): 43 Votes
[X] To become a Jedi Knight: You've heard stories of the powerful Jedi. It would be so cool to become a Jedi Knight (10,000 Experience Points. 5 Chosen Points): 25 Votes
To Master Teras Kasi 41 Votes
+41 XP
+Master Teras Kasi Ambition Gained

There you go.

Even telling Siri about the dreams might help, the Jedi know some dreams aren't just dreams.

Already tried that. Didn't work.
 
If we're really set on messing with Sith artifacts we should be going into it with a healthy degree of skepticism and suspicion. The Sith are manipulative and deceitful, and it'd be easy to get taken in if we aren't prepared.
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Changing vote to:

Bail

[X] [Reward] To Do all he can to free the slaves in the Outer Rim?
[X] [meetings] Refused. You would not ally with a politician that could potentially hurt the Jedi if you said the wrong thing.

Dooku

[X] [Dooku] Please stay with the Order?

Yoda
[X] [Failure] Seriously: Yoda was the teacher, and apparently you'd been doing it the wrong way. You needed to figure out the right way

Sith
[X] [Sith] Disgusted: To value emotions so heavily was dangerous . The Jedi were right to fight the Sith.

Dreams
[X] [Dreams] Frowned in worry and left. You would meditate to determine if this is a message from the Force or merely a bad dream.
 
And when the civilization is corrupt, or full of ineffectual beauraucrats, then what? When it's filled with idiots who'd follow a popular sentiment, based on false information, or led the sort of hard men who have bad morality, what will you do? Look at Khaleesh's history with the Republic

Then you try to change the civilization. Make others follow you and your new way of thinking. What you do not do is tear the civilization down, because obviously a lack of civilization, the selfish, shortsighted rule of the strong, is the way to go. In a civilization, compromises have to be made, and change is slow. But this is not always a bad thing. My plan has always been to reform both Jedi and the Republic from the inside. With enough charisma and power, we could pull it off.
 
Bail
[X] [Reward] To Do all he can to free the slaves in the Outer Rim?
[X] [meetings] Accepted. This would be a great opportunity to hangout with someone who wasn't a Jedi and expand your horizons. The fact that Bail was the CHancellor just made it better!


Yoda
[X] [Failure] Seriously: Yoda was the teacher, and apparently you'd been doing it the wrong way. You needed to figure out the right way

Dooku
[X] [Dooku] Please stay with the Order?

Sith
[X] [Sith] Curious: The Sith Code was different than that of the Jedi. Did not make either code right, but you wanted to learn more.

Dreams
[X] [Dreams] Frowned in worry and left. You would meditate to determine if this is a message from the Force or merely a bad dream.
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