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BlueBiscuit said:
I wouldn't.
Mostly because it would become impossible to escape the immediate comparison with HIT Marks/Ascension, no matter what aesthetics you're covering up your terminators with, which is a complete deal breaker for me.
I'm all for stealing what (little) good was in oMage, but direct copy/paste like that leaves me with an awful aftertaste.
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I can't really see the HITMark comparison to be honest.

EDIT: I was considering holy war-avatars that masterfully use any weapon and are infernally hard to affect with magic, personally controlled by Seers of the Praetorian personally.

So instead of Servitors, they would have a force multiplier that could be used when the Praetorian goes "yeah, I'm taking the fine gloves off."

BlueBiscuit said:
Your debt-powered sycophants for the Chancellor are already a much better idea.
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Yay! I'm actually making them partially as a joke.

They are the Technocracy, in that they look scientific but are really just magic and have nothing to do with science. The technology is just smoke and mirrors that the Sleepers can't see past.
 
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ManusDomine said:
I'll just call attention to the fact that the current debates are:

"wat if woof had vampir bae?"

And:

"MAGICAL CYBORGS POWERED BY OPPRESSION."

This amuses me greatly.
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World of Darkness is diverse enough setting we can discuss magical cyborgs *and* crossover shipping for whole two pages.
We're just hitting three pages right now.
If we could manage to figure out romance to magical cyborgs powered by oppression we'll have run full gauntlet.
 
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I admit it, I love the GURPS 3e versions of oWoD Vampire, Werewolf, and Mage from the 90's. Really wish that White Wolf and Steve Jackson Games hadn't had such a massive falling out, because I'd love to have seen Wraith and Changeling get GURPS versions and companion books for Werewolf and Mage (as it is, only Vampire got a companion book).
 
Brother Mouse said:
How do you do the Black Furies right?
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Feminists with legitimate grievances against a patriarchal mythology that has a real impact on the world thanks to metaphors effecting Spirits and Magic.
They also have "Feminazis" that hate the male gender in general.
These two factions within the Tribe are almost completely different but everyone else seems to lump them into one group, and this tends to get everyone pissed off.
 
Brother Mouse said:
How do you do the Black Furies right?
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In my games

Legitimate feminists who are with the COG and GW one of the most socially implicated tribe. They tend to fall into the trap of "beating wife beaters for justice's sake" but that's a werewolf incapcity to think of non-violent solutions at work, not a Black Fury's special falling.

Defenders of traditionally feminine qualities like empathy and intuition. Unlike the stereotype they want men to adopt these qualities because they really think people could use less imitation of pure reason, and denigration of these qualities leads to denigration of women in general.

Guardians of wild places where humans cannot go, places where monsters of myth and legend can still exist and have a place outside the established order of thing.
 
Paulie Romanov said:
I admit it, I love the GURPS 3e versions of oWoD Vampire, Werewolf, and Mage from the 90's. Really wish that White Wolf and Steve Jackson Games hadn't had such a massive falling out, because I'd love to have seen Wraith and Changeling get GURPS versions and companion books for Werewolf and Mage (as it is, only Vampire got a companion book).
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Are you hoping that SJG would write some fluff that WW wouldn't write, or are you seeking system representation of Wraith/etc. abilities?
 
Speaking of Owerewolves let's talk about the Children of Gaïa

Not the awful revised tribebook though ( Althought I have been long biaised for it because it was the first exposition to an openly gay couple to my gay teen self) . The real Children of Gaïa, the splat a player could choose to play.

What would be their goals, their methods, their hidden badassery?
 
ganonso said:
Speaking of Owerewolves let's talk about the Children of Gaïa

Not the awful revised tribebook though ( Althought I have been long biaised for it because it was the first exposition to an openly gay couple to my gay teen self) . The real Children of Gaïa, the splat a player could choose to play.

What would be their goals, their methods, their hidden badassery?
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Think Vash the Stampede or Aang from Avatar.

also Doomguy has Rage 10
 
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Paulie Romanov said:
I admit it, I love the GURPS 3e versions of oWoD Vampire, Werewolf, and Mage from the 90's. Really wish that White Wolf and Steve Jackson Games hadn't had such a massive falling out, because I'd love to have seen Wraith and Changeling get GURPS versions and companion books for Werewolf and Mage (as it is, only Vampire got a companion book).
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I'm getting into gurps now and I can't help but wonder how the CofD splats would look with the gurps treatment. I'd kind like to take a crack at it myself but I never seem to have the time.
 
hyzmarca said:
Well, sometimes they don't know what the other one is. Like, a Lupus and a Gangrel are both on looking to hook up with someone and they just assume that the other one is a normal wolf. By the time they find out, they're already knee deep in the relationship.
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That's a risk everyone in World Of Darkness equally suffers.
You don't know if that Filipino woman you're dating is Aswang?
How do you know if cute guy cubicle over isn't a blood sorcerer?
Any childhood friends can be secret were-somethings!

The Laurent said:
What? No love for brief flings that end horribly (every single time) between Prometheans and various supernatural creatures?
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Without getting "accidentally" murdered by their beloved Prometheans are limited to dating Beasts.
With sufficient Gentle Mind Elixir *maybe* Ascending One mediator?

Joebobjoe said:
Still beats flings between Vampires and Mummies. 100 years later they come across one another again and each has a completely different recollection of how things happened, assuming the Mummy even remembers at all. Gets really awkward fast.
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Between the Mummy's lack of recollection and Vampire suffering fog of Eternity. . .
. . . they're attempting to piece together previous relationship from incredibly fragmented memories?
 
Generalissimo said:
That's a risk everyone in World Of Darkness equally suffers.
You don't know if that Filipino woman you're dating is Aswang?
How do you know if cute guy cubicle over isn't a blood sorcerer?
Any childhood friends can be secret were-somethings!

Without getting "accidentally" murdered by their beloved Prometheans are limited to dating Beasts.
With sufficient Gentle Mind Elixir *maybe* Ascending One mediator?

Between the Mummy's lack of recollection and Vampire suffering fog of Eternity. . .
. . . they're attempting to piece together previous relationship from incredibly fragmented memories?
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I thought it took time for that to take effect? I mean, the 'everyone hates them' thing. So, say, dating for a week or two and then suddenly disappearing. Or...whatever?
 
If we're talking about supernatural romance I would just like to point that New Changelings would be asshole boyfriend/girlfriend material.

The heartfelt promise you made the night of your first love while passion was clouding your sense? Supernaturally binding and you promised you die if you broke it. A whole Court is dedicated to desire and a whole Order to heartbreaking. And I'm not speaking about the obvious trust issues many Changelings would have coming back from Faerie.

Changeling lovers. The only thing more terrifying than changeling lawyers, for the same reasons mostly.
 
ganonso said:
If we're talking about supernatural romance I would just like to point that New Changelings would be asshole boyfriend/girlfriend material.

The heartfelt promise you made the night of your first love while passion was clouding your sense? Supernaturally binding and you promised you die if you broke it. A whole Court is dedicated to desire and a whole Order to heartbreaking. And I'm not speaking about the obvious trust issues many Changelings would have coming back from Faerie.

Changeling lovers. The only thing more terrifying than changeling lawyers, for the same reasons mostly.
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Eh, not necessarily. That said, they can be assholes, sure. But for obvious reasons Changelings that bind humans into promises that murder them don't have a lot of Clarity for long. They have trust issues, this is true, but acting in that way, while entirely possible, is the sort of thing that hits the Clarity hard and would be distrusted by other Changelings if they knew about it.

"Oh, shit, he's acting like one of the Fae."

But there's nothing that forces you to hold everything everyone said to them that way. It's an active process, after all. Which is part of being a Changeling. You have tools to be a total asshole, but you have to choose to use them. Whereas, say, a vampire *has* to be an asshole or he dies.

And yeah, you're right that there's a Heartbreaker Entitlement. (Not order, but I got what you meant.)
 
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ganonso said:
If we're talking about supernatural romance I would just like to point that New Changelings would be asshole boyfriend/girlfriend material.

The heartfelt promise you made the night of your first love while passion was clouding your sense? Supernaturally binding and you promised you die if you broke it. A whole Court is dedicated to desire and a whole Order to heartbreaking. And I'm not speaking about the obvious trust issues many Changelings would have coming back from Faerie.

Changeling lovers. The only thing more terrifying than changeling lawyers, for the same reasons mostly.
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Paradise by the Dashboard Light is extremely relevant.



I couldn't take it any longer
Lord I was crazed
And when the feeling came upon me
Like a tidal wave
I started swearing to my god and on my mother's grave
That I would love you to the end of time
I swore that I would love you to the end of time!
So now I'm praying for the end of time
To hurry up and arrive
Cause if I gotta spend another minute with you
I don't think that I can really survive
I'll never break my promise or forget my vow
But God only knows what I can do right now
I'm praying for the end of time
It's all that I can do
Praying for the end of time,
So I can end my time with you!!
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