Shepard Quest Mk V, Base of Operations (ME/MCU)

I hesitate to ask this, but could we please make Cerberus less stupid for the purposes of this quest? I'm getting really tired of taking this group seriously when there are so many glaring problems. They're somewhat xenophobic (and if understand correctly more accurately pro-human) true, but they surely accomplished some good at least?
I'd rather we not. honestly, I don't think we're not supposed to take them seriously, as stroth said.
Because Cerberus. Is. Stupid. Almost early Bond villain stupid.

No, actually, thinking about that, I'm wrong. They are exactly as stupid as Bond villains. They are in fact Bond villains in space. There is no difference.
the only reason their dangerous is collateral damage.
 
So canon question, do we know anything about commercial space flight? When Revy wants to go to Earth with her shiny new IFVs, presumably she would make use of such transportation, but I know nothing about the size of the ships, the price of travel, and the amount of protection such a ship has. I can of course just pull stuff out of my ass (probably based on B5 where we have quite a bit of information), but I prefer sticking to canon.
I think mass effect 1 has several boarding missions to "freighter ships" or something like that. Didn't Garrus' s personal mission take place on one? If so, ot would mean that a lone mad scientist could afford to buy and maintain one.

Price of travel is probanly (relatively) low as long as you stick to mass relay network.
 
I think mass effect 1 has several boarding missions to "freighter ships" or something like that. Didn't Garrus' s personal mission take place on one? If so, ot would mean that a lone mad scientist could afford to buy and maintain one.

Price of travel is probanly (relatively) low as long as you stick to mass relay network.
This is true, and it did. But they seemed like the kind of ship you would rent/buy for an extended trip on your own, not a metaphorical bus which is what I had imagined Revy using.
 
I think mass effect 1 has several boarding missions to "freighter ships" or something like that. Didn't Garrus' s personal mission take place on one? If so, ot would mean that a lone mad scientist could afford to buy and maintain one.
Just keep in mind that the lone scientist used extremely immoral/illegal means to make large amounts of money, and it's also quite possible that he stole rather than bought the ship.

That said, there was also the Salarian merchant on Feros with his freigter, and a fairly sizable number of others. ME2 also had some boarding missions taking place on freighters.
 
This is true, and it did. But they seemed like the kind of ship you would rent/buy for an extended trip on your own, not a metaphorical bus which is what I had imagined Revy using.
Although I can imagine Revy hiring out a local freighter for the couple of weeks. The colony is bound to have some and with the amount of hardware and people she needs to move I think renting a freighter would make more sense than just buying a passage.
 
This is true, and it did. But they seemed like the kind of ship you would rent/buy for an extended trip on your own, not a metaphorical bus which is what I had imagined Revy using.
I can't really someone as rich as Revy using a "spacd bus" really. I doubt Revy was arranging for the trip herself, and her assistant (s) likely would have rented a ship for the travel.
 
Sure, she can afford the private jet, but first class travel is also pretty nice. Which is really closer to what I was going for. And first class travel means that other people can be on the ship, which has narrative boons ;)
 
So canon question, do we know anything about commercial space flight? When Revy wants to go to Earth with her shiny new IFVs, presumably she would make use of such transportation, but I know nothing about the size of the ships, the price of travel, and the amount of protection such a ship has. I can of course just pull stuff out of my ass (probably based on B5 where we have quite a bit of information), but I prefer sticking to canon.

My bet is that it will be rather expensive.

Going by the blurb in the Codex:

A mass effect drive core decreases the mass of a bubble of space-time around a ship. This gives the ship the potential to move quickly, but does not apply any motive power. Ships use their sublight thrusters for motive power in FTL. There are several varieties of thruster, varying in performance versus economy. All ships are equipped with arrays of hydrogen-oxygen reaction control thrusters for maneuvering.

Ion drives electrically accelerate charged particles as a reaction mass. They are extremely efficient, but produce negligible thrust. They are mainly used for automated cargo barges.

The primary commercial engine is a "fusion torch", which vents the plasma of a ship's power plant. Fusion torches offer powerful acceleration at the cost of difficult heat management. Torch fuel is fairly cheap: helium-3 skimmed from gas giants and deuterium extracted from seawater or cometary bodies. Propellant is hydrogen, likewise skimmed from gas giants.

Things like the IFVs would normally be shipped on a cargo barge, which I imagine to be a Space!Freight-ship.

I'm picturing something 500m long, 100m wide and 100m high. With basically nothing but absolute minimum kinetic barriers, smallest Eezo core they could manage and a set of ion engines.

Great thing about Mass Effect is that the ship's invulnerable while flying. It's going FTL so no one can detect it until it's long gone. The only vulnerability would be when it drops out of FTL to use a Relay.

So Corporations would have very specific schedules so that just before the barge arrives they can deploy company ships to defend it for the short time it's there.



The problem is that since Revy wants to ride with her IFVs she can't send them that way. Instead she's got to pay to basically have them shipped express.

We've seen several manned freighter ships and frankly they were rather small. I'd have to boot up ME to have a look but my guess is we're looking at a cargo hold 10x10x5 meters in size. Big enough to fit a couple Tigers and that's about it.

So given that my bet is they'd be charging Revy the equvilant to using up the entire ships cargo capacity.

The issue of course is that those freighters didn't really have room for passangers. There was the cockpit, the crew's living quarters and the cargo hold. So odds are Revy would have to either crash with the Crew or sleep in the Tiger.

Speaking of sleep; Mindoir is IIRC one of the outer colonies of the Alliance right now. I think it took the Alliance six hours to get there but I can't figure out where I got that number from. Assuming it's right I figure that on a slower cargo ship traveling to Earth we'd be looking at a day or two's travel.

I honestly can't think of anything commercial that would carry both passengers, especially first class ones, and something as large and heavy as an IFV.

Besides while it might cut out the chance for social stuff I can totally picture Revy "Wait, what do you mean I don't act rich?" Shepard sleeping in the back of one of her Tigers on the trip to Earth.
 
Recalling the boarding missions, it'd be four tigers with some extra space for equipment. Though sizes may vary you could probably do something like rent a section on a space-faring version of a container ship.
 
So, there are a lot of practical details going into a trip to Earth like this, and I'm unsure how to handle them. On one hand, I don't want to drown you in low-impact votes, which would also limit my creative freedom. On the other, I don't want to seem insufficiently paranoid, and then piss you off if insufficient paranoia comes back to bite you in the ass.

Suggestions?
 
So, there are a lot of practical details going into a trip to Earth like this, and I'm unsure how to handle them. On one hand, I don't want to drown you in low-impact votes, which would also limit my creative freedom. On the other, I don't want to seem insufficiently paranoid, and then piss you off if insufficient paranoia comes back to bite you in the ass.

Suggestions?
Well there's no reason we can't take a Cord-Hislop high class transport, i'm sure they'll be amenable
 

Searching Wikipedia and looking at various civilian cargo planes gives me a rough price of between 200m and 300m for something capable of carrying a couple Tigers.

Given that cargo ships are likely cheaper due to their significantly higher demand in ME and all around low manufacturing costs and that we should have at least 5 billion spare cash it's almost certain we could afford to simply buy a transport.

Of course then the question becomes what do we do with it after we're done with it.
 
Searching Wikipedia and looking at various civilian cargo planes gives me a rough price of between 200m and 300m for something capable of carrying a couple Tigers.

Given that cargo ships are likely cheaper due to their significantly higher demand in ME and all around low manufacturing costs and that we should have at least 5 billion spare cash it's almost certain we could afford to simply buy a transport.

Of course then the question becomes what do we do with it after we're done with it.
You're planning on going into ship production relatively soon, so I figure you don't want to buy a ship at this point, but you can easily rent one, possibly from CHA.

In this case, I was more thinking along the lines of who you're bringing with you to Earth, and the general level of paranoia you're considering for Revy.
 
Searching Wikipedia and looking at various civilian cargo planes gives me a rough price of between 200m and 300m for something capable of carrying a couple Tigers.

Given that cargo ships are likely cheaper due to their significantly higher demand in ME and all around low manufacturing costs and that we should have at least 5 billion spare cash it's almost certain we could afford to simply buy a transport.

Of course then the question becomes what do we do with it after we're done with it.
We are setting up a PMC so getting something that be of use for that or just getting something that we can use for transport for us and the company until we can manufacture something better which will take a while isn't a waste.
 
So, there are a lot of practical details going into a trip to Earth like this, and I'm unsure how to handle them. On one hand, I don't want to drown you in low-impact votes, which would also limit my creative freedom. On the other, I don't want to seem insufficiently paranoid, and then piss you off if insufficient paranoia comes back to bite you in the ass.

Suggestions?
You could write up a list of available travel bundles and have us pick one instead of us doing a write-in or mix'n match

for example:
Cord-Hislop: due to your work with this space agency they're quite willing to provide transportation for you it will have good safety, luxury, and transport capacity, however as the ship is owned by cord hislop anything you bring on will be likely be scanned by them, and it would be a sign that you trust them.
 
So, there are a lot of practical details going into a trip to Earth like this, and I'm unsure how to handle them. On one hand, I don't want to drown you in low-impact votes, which would also limit my creative freedom. On the other, I don't want to seem insufficiently paranoid, and then piss you off if insufficient paranoia comes back to bite you in the ass.

Suggestions?
Well, in terms of security, one possibility might be the System Alliance's involvement. I could see them agreeing to send a frigate or two (or even more; as necessary) as escorts for the ships carrying the IFVs for the presentation for those participant who don't have their own space-bound security, because it wouldn't be a good idea for up-to-date military designs falling into the hands of pirates, mercenaries, or the like.
Additionally, I could see Revy taking a security team with her; both to protect the cargo/vehicles in case of boarding attempts and the like, and for the demonstration itself, where they can take roles as passengers/drivers/gunners/etc to better demonstrate its capabilities.

For Revy herself, I'd expect that she'd bring her mother, and possibly Lindsey. Plus some weapons (like the shapeshifting stuff I Omake'd into existence) and personal kinetic barriers and the like. In addition to a discreete bodyguard or three.
 
You're planning on going into ship production relatively soon, so I figure you don't want to buy a ship at this point, but you can easily rent one, possibly from CHA.

In this case, I was more thinking along the lines of who you're bringing with you to Earth, and the general level of paranoia you're considering for Revy.

Well, the last time we were on Earth, someone tried to assassinate us. Since then, we have made it clear that we are a much bigger theat to the status quo. Whats that saying about it not being paranoia if they really are out to get us (and they are).
 
To be honest I'm thinking we ask the SA for transport and imply heavily that what we're bringing is nearly as revolutionary as the Legionary.

We should also run some close protection drills with our security and take an Armoured team to guard them (and our people) on the way along with our own personal suit along with mum's just in case.

We made a splash before and with the purchase of laser weaponry people will have some suspicions (more worries) about what we've been working on. More so if they've managed to get long range video or photo's for the 1.75b

I'd say there's fair odds on people trying to delay us, or given our unknown enemy, much worse.

So we make sure the Security Team is up for space combat in case we need a counter boarding action because frankly the easiest, most effective and most efficient way to stop us is to blow up the ship were on, especially if it's not a SA military ship.
 
So we make sure the Security Team is up for space combat in case we need a counter boarding action because frankly the easiest, most effective and most efficient way to stop us is to blow up the ship were on, especially if it's not a SA military ship.

Do remember that we are only vulnerable for the minute or so it takes to connect to the relay and the time we spend in the Sol System.

Oh and while she probably can't get away with wearing a Mk 1.75b Revy should absolutely be wearing one of those kinetic barrier belts powered by an Arc Reactor. Just to be safe.
 
Do remember that we are only vulnerable for the minute or so it takes to connect to the relay and the time we spend in the Sol System.

And the travel time between relays.

Mindoir is in the Traverse (though I can't find it on either of the composite maps I found) so that means since the Charon Relay connects to Arturus there's at very least two hops and more probably at least three or four.

Oh and while she probably can't get away with wearing a Mk 1.75b Revy should absolutely be wearing one of those kinetic barrier belts powered by an Arc Reactor. Just to be safe.

Definitely, I just want to have it handy in case of Blood Pack boarders or other mercs.
 
And the travel time between relays.

Mindoir is in the Traverse (though I can't find it on either of the composite maps I found) so that means since the Charon Relay connects to Arturus there's at very least two hops and more probably at least three or four.

Not really. We'll almost certainly be going FTL between relays, since the travel times would be pretty crazy STL, and at FTL your impossible to track or intercept.

We will probably have to slow down around Arcturus but given that it's the heart of the Alliance's power the risk will be pretty low there.
 
Not really. We'll almost certainly be going FTL between relays, since the travel times would be pretty crazy STL, and at FTL your impossible to track or intercept.

We will probably have to slow down around Arcturus but given that it's the heart of the Alliance's power the risk will be pretty low there.
There will be some time around each relay where you will be going at STL speeds, the precision required to hit a relay just right while going at FTL is quite frankly ridiculous. But that shouldn't be more than a few hours in total.
 
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