Shepard Quest Mk V, Base of Operations (ME/MCU)

in wonder what the taurians, salerians, krogans, batrians, asari and especially the elcor think about us
 
Thought about writing a snippet where members of the Turian leadership discuss the intelligence about Shepard's inventions, but I can't really seem to find a good spot to start.
Then again, Esbilon could always write some interludes now and then as well, if he feels like it.
 
Thought about writing a snippet where members of the Turian leadership discuss the intelligence about Shepard's inventions, but I can't really seem to find a good spot to start.
Possibly at some sort of competition between the SA military and the turians have the turians commenting on whate the SA are showing off?
 
Turian general: Humans are harder to kill! </3

Salarian scientist: MOAR DELICIOUS SHEPARD TECHNOLOGY! SCIENCE FOR THE SCOENCE GOD!

Krogans: Meh, not killy enough (upon observing a Dakka Hog)

Batarians: See Turians

Elcor: Shepard shows up in Elcor Hamlet selling weaponry, which Elcor Hamlet uses and transforms into Blasto.
 
Possibly at some sort of competition between the SA military and the turians have the turians commenting on whate the SA are showing off?
Actually, this is about the right time for the two governments to be starting the process that ended with the Normandy. In the next year or two at the latest. The negotiations for that sort of thing won't go fast and without a genius like Revy merging the two design philosophies would take years. And then years more to actually build the ship.
 
@UberJJK Good points about the problems with discharging in flight.

Also recall that a negative current isn't the same as a current made of negatively charged particles, it's a current going the opposite direction of a positively charged current. Using electrons in processes like these is near-infinitely easier than getting a hold of positrons or sending heavy ions (even protons are 2000 times the mass of an electron) through your circuits.

I'm not so sure about this. There's a big difference between just falling in and already being there. Let's say that at t=0 (observer's clock) the radius of the event horizon is R=R0. ME field is applied, the radius becomes R=R1<R0. A probe is place at the orbit of the black hole at R=R2, where R1<R2<R0. At t=t1 mass effect field is dissipated. At t=t2>t1 the event horizon's radius is R=R0 again. Now, the question: from the outside observer's viewpoint, what's the coordinate of the probe?

Furthermore, mass effect might allow for "cavity creation" within black holes, where the space around the probe is altered by it so the radius of the event horizon is lowered (and thus the probe is "outside" the black hole) but the probe itself is deep inside the hole that the event horizon completely closes above it.
No. There is no difference between falling towards the horizon and having the horizon expanding to cover you. That's what the "relativity" in "general relativity" means.

An outside observer would see the probe in the same location at all times, but as the horizon approaches it, the signal would be more and more red-shifted, and corresponding to longer and longer times between each bits of information being sent.

They could in principle turn the ME field back on when the frequency has dropped enough (say to 1/day), letting them retrieve the probe again.

From the point of view of the probe this would correspond to the horizon expanding towards them, and then pulling back just before actually hitting them. Except that an infalling obsever never notices the horizon... So I'm not entirely sure about how much of this they would notice.


Also, the voting deadline has passed. Anyone around who wants to run the tallying program, or do I finally need to figure out how it works?
 
Cleaned and hopefully more readable version:
Business Actions
[X] Building Better Babies. Distribute your new procedures as widely as you can, making Humanity stronger, faster, smarter and prettier. Also pissing off the companies that are making a killing doing this for the rich and powerful.
No. of votes: 29
Yog, Lunaryon, Derek58, Tabron89, Sylvire, Tetsurou, Hoyr, avatar11792, Chargone, Leingod, darkdigi, Daniel14541, Carrnage, Stroth, Ph34r_n0_3V1L, UberJJK, tenchifew, Redium, Van Ropen, tyaty1, Kelenas, Alanek2002, Celestrail, aceraptor, Ignis fatuus, lordnyx, Lagrange, Darkcloudt2, Amberion
-[X] Provide free treatment to cure genetic disease in children.
No. of votes: 24
Derek58, Sylvire, Silversun17, Tetsurou, avatar11792, Chargone, Leingod, Daniel14541, Stroth, Ph34r_n0_3V1L, UberJJK, tenchifew, Redium, Van Ropen, tyaty1, Kelenas, Alanek2002, Celestrail, aceraptor, Ignis fatuus, lordnyx, Lagrange, Darkcloudt2, Amberion
--[x] Work with those of alliance governments who have free medical care and mandatory inoculations to spread your advancements as far as possible (and for political capital)
No. of votes: 26
Yog, Derek58, Tabron89, Sylvire, Tetsurou, avatar11792, Chargone, Leingod, darkdigi, Daniel14541, Stroth, Ph34r_n0_3V1L, UberJJK, tenchifew, Redium, Van Ropen, tyaty1, Kelenas, Alanek2002, Celestrail, aceraptor, Ignis fatuus, lordnyx, Lagrange, Darkcloudt2, Amberion
---[X] See if you can involve Sirta Foundation. This sort of thing is their specialty and it would be nice to have a working relationship.
No. of votes: 17
Sylvire, Stroth, Ph34r_n0_3V1L, UberJJK, tenchifew, Redium, Van Ropen, tyaty1, Kelenas, Alanek2002, Celestrail, aceraptor, Ignis fatuus, lordnyx, Lagrange, Darkcloudt2, Amberion


[X] We need to make some recoup on our investment but we should distribute our advances (Patented of course) so that no parent has to suffer a child born crippled by something we can cure
No. of votes: 1
Silversun17
-[X] Undercut the market but not severely on other applications
No. of votes: 1
Silversun17


[X] File. Let them see what we can do, and let them then shut up and give us their money.
No. of votes: 29
Yog, Lunaryon, Derek58, Tabron89, Sylvire, Silversun17, Tetsurou, Hoyr, avatar11792, Chargone, Leingod, darkdigi, Daniel14541, Stroth, Ph34r_n0_3V1L, UberJJK, tenchifew, Redium, Van Ropen, tyaty1, Kelenas, Alanek2002, Celestrail, aceraptor, Ignis fatuus, lordnyx, Lagrange, Darkcloudt2, Amberion
-[X] But have your people go over any changes in Citadel patent law first. Hire a specialist if needs be.
No. of votes: 24
Derek58, Sylvire, Silversun17, Tetsurou, avatar11792, Chargone, Leingod, Daniel14541, Stroth, Ph34r_n0_3V1L, UberJJK, tenchifew, Redium, Van Ropen, tyaty1, Kelenas, Alanek2002, Celestrail, aceraptor, Ignis fatuus, lordnyx, Lagrange, Darkcloudt2, Amberion
-[X] Patent it intelligently. As in leave out some key parts but leave enough in that anyone making an arc reactor would have to have those pieces also to make it work.
No. of votes: 1
Daniel14541

[X] Do not file. Yet. Keep your cards close, the human market is still big enough that you don't need to let anyone know exactly what you're doing.
No. of votes: 2
Mochinator, Carrnage


[X] Hire on five new security teams.
No. of votes: 18
Sylvire, darkdigi, Stroth, Ph34r_n0_3V1L, UberJJK, tenchifew, Redium, Van Ropen, tyaty1, Kelenas, Alanek2002, Celestrail, aceraptor, Ignis fatuus, lordnyx, Lagrange, Darkcloudt2, Amberion
-[X]Prioritize Marines but if we have to take on more LEOs or mercs to have them on time then so be it.
No. of votes: 18
Sylvire, darkdigi, Stroth, Ph34r_n0_3V1L, UberJJK, tenchifew, Redium, Van Ropen, tyaty1, Kelenas, Alanek2002, Celestrail, aceraptor, Ignis fatuus, lordnyx, Lagrange, Darkcloudt2, Amberion

[X] Hire 5 new Security Teams now to protect the building site from unwanted 'additions' as well as getting them trained up in preparation for the sites going online.
No. of votes: 1
Madfish
--[X] See if we can hire any of the Biotics upgrading from the L2 for our security teams
No. of votes: 1
Madfish

[X] Build Basic Lab II
No. of votes: 4
Sylvire, Van Ropen, tyaty1, aceraptor
[X] Build Research Lab II and III
No. of votes: 1
darkdigi
[X] Build Basic Research Lab II and III
No. of votes: 10
Stroth, Ph34r_n0_3V1L, Kelenas, Alanek2002, Celestrail, Ignis fatuus, lordnyx, Lagrange, Darkcloudt2, Amberion
-[X] Hire Research Teams at our usual salary
No. of votes: 15
Sylvire, darkdigi, Stroth, Ph34r_n0_3V1L, Van Ropen, tyaty1, Kelenas, Alanek2002, Celestrail, aceraptor, Ignis fatuus, lordnyx, Lagrange, Darkcloudt2, Amberion


[X] Set up an arena in Landing where everyone can play your new game safely
No. of votes: 1
Silversun17
-[X] Incorporate a broadcast energy field and activation key in the arena so people can't be hurt by using there figures (Which we need a good name for) in public.
No. of votes: 1
Silversun17
-[X] Set up training arenas with different terrain from boxing rings to mountains
No. of votes: 1
Silversun17
--[X] It can be called Paragon Layer
No. of votes: 1
Silversun17
--[X] We're doing a lot with Mum but perhaps Dad would like to be involved with this? He did play 40k games with us before and we seem to have drifted apart
No. of votes: 1
Silversun17

Research Actions
Mark II Suit
[X] Mk II Suit (500) 50d10+160
No. of votes: 1
Yog
Total = 1

Gigawatt Range Lasers

[X] Gigawatt Range Lasers (400) 50d10
No. of votes: 1
Yog
Total = 1

Peak Human

[X] Peak Human (400) 40d10+0verflow
No. of votes: 1
Yog
[X] Peak Human (400) (20d10 + 20)
No. of votes: 1
Derek58
[x] Peak Human (400) (10d10+65) (Overflow)
No. of votes: 3
Tabron89, Tetsurou, avatar11792
[X] Peak Human (0/400)
No. of votes: 13
Sylvire, Ph34r_n0_3V1L, Van Ropen, tyaty1, Kelenas, Alanek2002, Celestrail, aceraptor, Ignis fatuus, lordnyx, Lagrange, Darkcloudt2, Amberion
[X] Peak Human (400)
No. of votes: 5
Silversun17, Stroth, UberJJK, tenchifew, Redium
[X]Peak Human
No. of votes: 1
darkdigi
Total = 24

Time Is an Illusion

[X] Time is an illusion (XXX): Have Conrad and his team continue the work he started in his dissertation. Time manipulation of any kind would be pretty awesome, but this is as bleeding edge as research gets, and you have no idea what's on the other side, or how far away it is. (This may or may not give you limited control over time. It may or may not have other prerequisite techs.) - 140d10 + 160
No. of votes: 1
Lunaryon
Total = 1

Advanced Blackboxing/FRM

[X] Advanced Black boxing/FRM (439/800) (60d10 + 70)
No. of votes: 1
Derek58
[x] Advanced Black boxing/FRM (439/800) (60d10 + 75)
No. of votes: 3
Tabron89, Tetsurou, avatar11792
[X] Advanced Black boxing/FRM (439/800)
No. of votes: 21
Sylvire, Silversun17, Hoyr, darkdigi, Daniel14541, Stroth, Ph34r_n0_3V1L, UberJJK, tenchifew, Redium, Van Ropen, tyaty1, Kelenas, Alanek2002, Celestrail, aceraptor, Ignis fatuus, lordnyx, Lagrange, Darkcloudt2, Amberion
Total = 25

Advanced Fire Control VI

[X] Advanced Fire Control VI (400) (60d10 + 120)
No. of votes: 1
Derek58
[x] Advanced Fire Control VI (400) (70d10 + 70)
No. of votes: 3
Tabron89, Tetsurou, avatar11792
[X] Advanced Fire Control VI (0/400)
No. of votes: 13
Sylvire, Ph34r_n0_3V1L, Van Ropen, tyaty1, Kelenas, Alanek2002, Celestrail, aceraptor, Ignis fatuus, lordnyx, Lagrange, Darkcloudt2, Amberion
[X] Advanced Fire Control VI (400)
No. of votes: 7
Silversun17, Hoyr, Daniel14541, Stroth, UberJJK, tenchifew, Redium
[X]Advanced Fire Control VI
No. of votes: 1
darkdigi
Total = 25

Miniaturized Lasers

[X] Miniaturized Lasers (400)
No. of votes: 2
Hoyr, Daniel14541
Total = 2

Personal Actions
[X] Have your own advanced implant installed (and come up with a suitable name for it).
No. of votes: 1
Carrnage
[x] Have your own advanced implant installed.(Magi series implant Mark 1)
No. of votes: 1
darkdigi
[x] Have your own advanced implant installed (Prometheus).
No. of votes: 1
Mochinator
[X] Have your own advanced implant installed (Magi).
No. of votes: 1
Hoyr
[X] Have your own advanced implant installed (Parastorm, a nod to the past and ourselves as well as it's capabilities).
No. of votes: 1
Silversun17
[X] Have your own advanced implant (Tempestas) installed.
No. of votes: 1
Sylvire
[x] Have your own advanced implant installed (Tempestas).
No. of votes: 5
Tetsurou, avatar11792, Chargone, Leingod, Daniel14541
[X] Have your own advanced BA01 implant installed.
No. of votes: 1
Lunaryon
[X] Have your own advanced implant (Magi) installed.
No. of votes: 18
Derek58, Tabron89, Stroth, Ph34r_n0_3V1L, UberJJK, tenchifew, Redium, Van Ropen, tyaty1, Kelenas, Alanek2002, Celestrail, aceraptor, Ignis fatuus, lordnyx, Lagrange, Darkcloudt2, Amberion


-[X] Ask if Rahna would be willing to be hired as your tutor for you
No. of votes: 27
Derek58, Tabron89, Sylvire, Silversun17, Tetsurou, avatar11792, Chargone, Leingod, Mochinator, darkdigi, Daniel14541, Stroth, Ph34r_n0_3V1L, UberJJK, tenchifew, Redium, Van Ropen, tyaty1, Kelenas, Alanek2002, Celestrail, aceraptor, Ignis fatuus, lordnyx, Lagrange, Darkcloudt2, Amberion
-[X] Offer at cost replacements for all L2 Biotics. Have Rahna as a spokes person if she agrees.
No. of votes: 8
Tetsurou, avatar11792, Chargone, Leingod, Mochinator, darkdigi, Daniel14541, Redium
-[X] Offer at cost replacements for all L2 Biotics. Have Rahna as our spokes person if she agrees.
No. of votes: 2
Ph34r_n0_3V1L, Ignis fatuus
--[X] Find one of the best Biotic teachers you can, who's willing to work around your oddness.
No. of votes: 1
Hoyr


[X] Spend time with family and Brian.
No. of votes: 20
Derek58, Tabron89, Sylvire, Silversun17, Stroth, Ph34r_n0_3V1L, UberJJK, tenchifew, Redium, Van Ropen, tyaty1, Kelenas, Alanek2002, Celestrail, aceraptor, Ignis fatuus, lordnyx, Lagrange, Darkcloudt2, Amberion
-[X] Hellish as it was fighting to beat Mum's challenges with Brian was fun, maybe you can do some more of that
No. of votes: 20
Derek58, Tabron89, Sylvire, Silversun17, Stroth, Ph34r_n0_3V1L, UberJJK, tenchifew, Redium, Van Ropen, tyaty1, Kelenas, Alanek2002, Celestrail, aceraptor, Ignis fatuus, lordnyx, Lagrange, Darkcloudt2, Amberion
--[X] Bring some of what you've learned to the Security Teams training
No. of votes: 20
Derek58, Tabron89, Sylvire, Silversun17, Stroth, Ph34r_n0_3V1L, UberJJK, tenchifew, Redium, Van Ropen, tyaty1, Kelenas, Alanek2002, Celestrail, aceraptor, Ignis fatuus, lordnyx, Lagrange, Darkcloudt2, Amberion


[x] Ask your mother to help you set up an expansive training-regimen for you, Brian and your security teams; fitness, hand-to-hand and ranged combat, piloting your suit, etc. Hopefully this should give you a more comprehensive skillset than the patchwork training you've done until now.
No. of votes: 2
Tetsurou, avatar11792
[x] Ask your mother to help you set up an expansive training-regimen for you and Brian; fitness, hand-to-hand and ranged combat, piloting your suit, etc. Hopefully this should give you a more comprehensive skillset than the patchwork training you've done until now.
No. of votes: 3
Chargone, Leingod, Daniel14541
[x] Ask your mother to help you set up an expansive training-regimen; fitness, hand-to-hand and ranged combat, piloting your suit, etc. Hopefully this should give you a more comprehensive skillset than the patchwork training you've done until now.
No. of votes: 1
darkdigi


[X] Write and publish a paper on the science behind the arc reactor, have some people that know about writing paper edit it.
No. of votes: 1
Hoyr

[X] Go to the Shooting range
No. of votes: 1
Carrnage
 
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Also recall that a negative current isn't the same as a current made of negatively charged particles, it's a current going the opposite direction of a positively charged current. Using electrons in processes like these is near-infinitely easier than getting a hold of positrons or sending heavy ions (even protons are 2000 times the mass of an electron) through your circuits.
Yeah, negative current isn't the same as negatively charged particle flux, but, really, particle fluxes makes far more sense. Otherwise accumulation of static charge... Doesn't really make sense.
No. There is no difference between falling towards the horizon and having the horizon expanding to cover you. That's what the "relativity" in "general relativity" means.
Yeah, my derp, sorry about that.

An outside observer would see the probe in the same location at all times, but as the horizon approaches it, the signal would be more and more red-shifted, and corresponding to longer and longer times between each bits of information being sent.

They could in principle turn the ME field back on when the frequency has dropped enough (say to 1/day), letting them retrieve the probe again.

From the point of view of the probe this would correspond to the horizon expanding towards them, and then pulling back just before actually hitting them. Except that an infalling obsever never notices the horizon... So I'm not entirely sure about how much of this they would notice.
What about creating a cavity inside the black hole? Let's say that the initial radius of the event horizon is Rh0. Under effects of ME field it's smaller and is Rh1. We then place a probe at the orbit with the radius of R0; Rh1<R0<Rh0. The probe itself generates a localized mass effect field (similar to the externally generated one) affecting a spherical area of space with the radius of R1. Rh1<R0-R1<R0<R0+R1<Rh0. We then cancel the externally generated field. The probe would be "inside" the outer event horizon, but outside of black hole due to the localized mass effect field. Would it not?
 
Yeah, negative current isn't the same as negatively charged particle flux, but, really, particle fluxes makes far more sense. Otherwise accumulation of static charge... Doesn't really make sense.
You're assuming that there aren't any side effects to directly manipulating one of the fundamental forces of the universe. Frankly, creating a static charge seems like we're getting off light compared to what happens when you mess with the strong nuclear force.
 
You're assuming that there aren't any side effects to directly manipulating one of the fundamental forces of the universe. Frankly, creating a static charge seems like we're getting off light compared to what happens when you mess with the strong nuclear force.
It's not that we are getting off light, it's that... How does eezo decide what is a negative and what is a positive current and what is the sign of the accumulated static charge?

Oh, and question to @Esbilon do you think that eezo would affect C in E=MC^2, as well as M? Also in other formulas. I am trying to calc a stealth system proposal based on hiding in background microwave radiation via mass-effect created redshift.
 
Not that it makes a lot of difference but nearly my entire vote is missing despite tallying at points with others.
Well,
Added
[X] Hire 5 new Security Teams now to protect the building site from unwanted 'additions' as well as getting them trained up in preparation for the sites going online.
--[X] See if we can hire any of the Biotics upgrading from the L2 for our security teams
to [ ] Plan Seeding Greatness
Counts as a vote and it only counts that last one you make.
 
Cleaning it up was just taking too much time so here's the winning vote, I'll keep trying on the cleaning however.

Winning Vote:

Business Actions
[X] Building Better Babies. Distribute your new procedures as widely as you can, making Humanity stronger, faster, smarter and prettier. Also pissing off the companies that are making a killing doing this for the rich and powerful.
-[X] Provide free treatment to cure genetic disease in children.
--[x] Work with those of alliance governments who have free medical care and mandatory inoculations to spread your advancements as far as possible (and for political capital)
---[X] See if you can involve Sirta Foundation. This sort of thing is their specialty and it would be nice to have a working relationship.

[X] File. Let them see what we can do, and let them then shut up and give us their money.
-[X] But have your people go over any changes in Citadel patent law first. Hire a specialist if needs be.

[X] Hire on five new security teams.
-[X]Prioritize Marines but if we have to take on more LEOs or mercs to have them on time then so be it.

[X] Build Basic Research Lab II and III
-[X] Hire Research Teams at our usual salary

Research Actions
[X] Advanced Fire Control VI (0/400)
[X] Advanced Black boxing/FRM (439/800)
[X] Peak Human (0/400)

Personal Actions
[X] Have your own advanced implant (Magi) installed.
-[X] Ask if Rahna would be willing to be hired as your tutor for you

[X] Spend time with family and Brian.
-[X] Hellish as it was fighting to beat Mum's challenges with Brian was fun, maybe you can do some more of that
--[X] Bring some of what you've learned to the Security Teams training



While for some reason the vote tally didn't include the dice from what I can tell the distribution was:
[X] Advanced Fire Control VI (0/400)
60d10 + 120
[X] Advanced Black boxing/FRM (439/800)
60d10 + 70
[X] Peak Human (0/400)
20D10+70+Overflow

Total = 140d10+260
 
What about creating a cavity inside the black hole? Let's say that the initial radius of the event horizon is Rh0. Under effects of ME field it's smaller and is Rh1. We then place a probe at the orbit with the radius of R0; Rh1<R0<Rh0. The probe itself generates a localized mass effect field (similar to the externally generated one) affecting a spherical area of space with the radius of R1. Rh1<R0-R1<R0<R0+R1<Rh0. We then cancel the externally generated field. The probe would be "inside" the outer event horizon, but outside of black hole due to the localized mass effect field. Would it not?
In its own reference frame, yes, but we don't care about that. From the outside, the horizon never crosses the probe. It takes an infinite amount of time for anything to fall into a black hole.

Oh, and question to @Esbilon do you think that eezo would affect C in E=MC^2, as well as M? Also in other formulas. I am trying to calc a stealth system proposal based on hiding in background microwave radiation via mass-effect created redshift.
Yes, it has to, otherwise it coudn't make ftl travel possible.
 
In its own reference frame, yes, but we don't care about that. From the outside, the horizon never crosses the probe. It takes an infinite amount of time for anything to fall into a black hole.
But it wouldn't cross the probe in either frame of reference. It'll bend around the probe's mass effect field. Hence "cavity".
 
Disappointing that the 'At cost' upgrade for L2's didn't make the cut.
Nothing about the Magi implant was decided, we're not even talking about distributing it yet. And the Alliance will want to do some tests of their own before it's cleared for mass distribution. No one outside of Paragon Industries or Alliance labs will be able to get hands on these for probably a year or so.

It's not like building some new armor, they have to check for long term problems on something you're installing in a human body. Especially after the fiasco that was the L2s.
 
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But it wouldn't cross the probe in either frame of reference. It'll bend around the probe's mass effect field. Hence "cavity".
My point is that the light coming from the probe and connecting to the outside observer would still be infinitely time-dilated. To the outside observer, the probe would never look to be inside the horizon.
 
not sure if it is my phone, but why doedn't the winning research have dice next to it?
 
not sure if it is my phone, but why doedn't the winning research have dice next to it?

Because practically everyone voted:

[] Research Plan
Xd10+Y

and since the Tally only picks up lines with a ]x[ it didn't count the dice rolls.

Of course people going
[] Research Plan
[] Xd10+Y

would be worse since we wouldn't be able to easily tell what matches what.

Instead I think from now on people should try for

[] Research Plan (Xd10+Y)
 
Well, looks like Esbilon can get to updating, provided he can tear himself away from Yog and their discussion about science. :D
 
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