Eh it's fine, I can have difficulty reading subtext even when I'm actually talking to someone, so I may be exaggerating it, but I do appreciate the apology.
Now You Feel Like Number None [Bleach Arrancar Quest]
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You can make a square peg fit into a round hole by shoving it so hard the corners break off?
Either that or he's burning his Heart up for instantaneous power, diminishing its total power in exchange for having it right now.
Just that as a Vasto Lorde theres a shitload to burn.
Right, because every Menos is a committee, combining their energy output is not really any different from doing literally anything.
I don't think Segunda Etapa is approaching the Heart so directly. Based on everything Ulquiorra said (and the Hollow and Arrancar sections of Omi's info breakdown) it's embracing the horror of monstrosity after getting a second chance, and ascending via black enlightenment. It's finding your Heart, and choosing to cast it aside in the name of blackest despair. It's the power of the red surrender. Of casting aside the only things that really matter for more power, to not hurt anymore, for broken ideals, for any reason you do it, as long as it's real.
Resurrection is reclaiming the raw ferocity of the monster you once were. Segunda Etapa is throwing aside the human you have become so you can be a monster once more.
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- Australia
Yeah that's the thematics but the crunchy mechanics of what happens with the soul stuff is the question.
Well, my suspicion is that the theme is the answer. That there's incredible power to be gained by putting yourself outside the realm of the Heart and beyond the lines none have ever crossed. That there is a form of divinity in reaching a true zen, a black nirvana. The enlightenment itself being the key, the nirvana being a thing in itself.
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- madison
hmm. hollows tear their heart out and wear it like armor. Arrancar crack opens the armor and forges their heart into a channel that can be used in a healthy manner. So what I think he did, is he took his externalized heart channel, and severed the connection to himself, and used it to make an armored body. essentially, going through the process of hollowing again, starting with a far more powerful and refined heart that was already in a weaponized form.
NSMS
Probably evil, unfortunately.
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- A rapidly widening tear in the fabric of reality
My only real idea for how Segunda Etapa might work is that by casting away the Heart, it- for lack of a better term- 'unclogs' the pathways between someone's spiritual power and the outside world, as their power no longer needs to pass through their Heart to be externalised. This means they can put out much more power at once, as there's no longer anything 'blocking' it and trying to shape it prior to release, vastly increasing their maximum output power (though not the overall size of their reserves) and robbing their spiritual energy of any signature beyond 'vast, overwhelming emptiness'.
The obvious problem with this is that it relies on the casting off of the Heart to achieve true Segunda Etapa being much more literal and final than I think it's meant to be. As in, it'd be a 'you can never revert from the state, and you lose all unique powers you ever had' sort of transformation. It's the best idea I've got, though.
The obvious problem with this is that it relies on the casting off of the Heart to achieve true Segunda Etapa being much more literal and final than I think it's meant to be. As in, it'd be a 'you can never revert from the state, and you lose all unique powers you ever had' sort of transformation. It's the best idea I've got, though.
Ulquiorra did in fact imply his previous version of Segunda Etapa was a shade of what he just did. He managed to get in that zen temporarily, but he didn't go all the way, because his heart hadn't been broken. By ignoring it so hard he became Hollow in almost every way that matters, he got a taste of the transformation.
Now? Now he's torn it out for good. He felt humanity. He felt love and heartbreak. He remembered what it was to be a person, and his first reaction was to tear his heart out and finally become what he always wanted to be.
Hollow.
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- Malaysia
The last three examples are hilarious.
One is a drama queen, another one's a gangster, and the last one is gay.
The abrupt shift of tone from poignant to 'what, what, whaaaaatttt' is weirdly explanatory of Bleach as a universe, because of course the true form of someone'r Heart/internal power source is that of a drama queen in need of a good lighting. And gay.
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- France
Short answer: a mistake. We put a bag over it and pretend it doesn't exist, just like the Bakkōtō.What is a Bount then?
someone whose Heart is bound the the Doll they summon maybe?
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- Brittany, France
- Pronouns
- He/Him
I've never actually watched the anime.What is a Bount then?
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- Ekaterinburg, Russia
Neither did I, but they are supposedly some kind of a mix of normal soul and mod soul that got mixed just as they reincarnated. They also eat souls.
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- Brittany, France
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- He/Him
Oh, don't worry, people have explained the Bounts to me a dozen times by this point.
The memory of it just flows out of my mind, like water through a sieve. Nothing is retained.
What is a Bount then?
A coconut-centred chocolate bar.
deadcrystal
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- The Warp
What is a Bount then?
'Swedish Vampires with Stands' is the description I've seen and it's amusingly accurate.
- Location
- Texas
What is a Bount then?
You know how arrancar are basically monster-shinigami? They're the thematic dark mirrors of Soul Reapers, hollows with swords and release states?
Bounts are monster-quincies. They're the thematic dark mirrors to the Quincies, specifically to Hueco Mundo stage Uryu Ishida. Same backstory of being oppressed by Soul Society, same ability to turn the spirit matter of Soul Society into power, similar material focuses instead of swords. Same theory that they're actually a tribe of regular people with magic powers instead of weird spirits or something.
They're Quincy Terrorist Faction from before the last manga arc came in and brought back actual quincies to be the Quincy Terrorist Faction.
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- Texas
Yeah, and Quincies destroy souls when they shoot hollows with arrows, except this is apparently not evil when we see Uryu using his "firehose of energy arrows" technique to annihilate armies of hollows.
Bleach is actually fairly consistent that it's bad to kill people. It just sometimes forgets that half the cast is dead people instead of, like, aliens from another dimension.
No. Turns out when a Quincy killed something, it was absorbed by Yhwach.
NSMS
Probably evil, unfortunately.
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- A rapidly widening tear in the fabric of reality
Not my point; what I was getting at (admittedly pretty obliquely) was that Hollows eating dead people's souls = bad, but Bount eating dead people's souls = AOK! It's like the people who wrote that arc forgot that the whole reason Ichigo started fighting Hollows was to stop human souls getting eaten.
From the arc-that-shan't-be-named, it's because the souls get fed to Papa Moustache. Outside of that... dunno. It's never explained. Kido, meanwhile, is never explicitly stated to purify Hollows, but it probably does seeing as Shinigami aren't banned from using it on Hollows.