I do! It accomplishes a few things at once and I'm fine with hopping on the bandwagon as long as we don't keep doing it all the freakin' time.
Knight of Dandriss: Stone and Steel
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Exactly this.
I am also thinking how after we "spent time with Max and daughters" often enough it became an automated action to some extent.
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Does make sense that we'd establish a network and get used to planning parties and it wouldn't take as much work.
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- somewhere
X] Construct building
-[X] Reactor
[X] Patrol rail lines
[X] Patrol forest
[X] Investigate rumours
[X] Nomad diplomacy
[X] Study politics
[X] Study war - Chance to advance Officer education
Voting for two study options to avoid voting for anything that could lock us out of studying at least once this year. Personal stagnation is unacceptable, much better to lose all progress made last year rather than establishing a pattern of never studying.
-[X] Reactor
[X] Patrol rail lines
[X] Patrol forest
[X] Investigate rumours
[X] Nomad diplomacy
[X] Study politics
[X] Study war - Chance to advance Officer education
Voting for two study options to avoid voting for anything that could lock us out of studying at least once this year. Personal stagnation is unacceptable, much better to lose all progress made last year rather than establishing a pattern of never studying.
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There are more productive sustained events to go for.
And again, AN literally put a statement in the party update that doing it too often would yield diminishing returns.
If we had month-long turns doing a party once a year would be sensible. But putting half of our personal effort for the entire year into a party EVERY SINGLE YEAR? Please god no.
Of course not one of our actions every single year!
A party is a day, two day event?
Preparation for it is what, a month at most?
Most of the work done by assistants, at that.
I expect it to become a sustained event not requiring our action investment in four years at most.
@Academia Nut, can you confirm or deny this?
And regarding it being not a useful sustained event...
You were the one who wanted us to become New Hollywood.
Parties are integral to mingle and plot between the famous, noble and rich.
Were we more martially inclined, I wouldn't have considered party important.
But as entertainment/intrigue oriented as we are now?
It is essential to have such a regular opportunity to meet and mingle with the movers and shakers.
We are a tourist resort. Advertisement and people coming here to relax is our life blood. To have a regular party to entice the wealthy and powerful to come is a very desirable thing.
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No he didn't. He said they would get bored if we kept things at the same level to often. Not that people will get bored if we do a party too often.
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That's a fair opinion to have, though we'll be doing two years anyway, are we sure we don't want to extend that to 5?
That's been addressed, though; it was about doing a semi-casual social too often.
You lost your "[" at the start of your vote.
I agree we should study as a general point. I think I'm in favor of working hard at establishing ourselves in a new role, then working hard to improve ourselves. Something like three years for the first and five for the second, then repeat.
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Using a personal action for a party means devoting literally half of our personal time for an entire year to making a party. Why on earth would taking the same action create a party at a "lower level"?
u jokin wid me m8?
Not at a lower level.
Just a formal ball, a rave or a masquerade instead of a casual get together.
And again, no, we will not need to use an action every time.
We just need to establish the parties, then I expect them to be automated.
@Academia Nut
Could you please mark actions where a sustained effort can bring us benefits?
Like education, as we started university last time around we did not know how many asctions and years we would need for what benefit.
If the acton description would have been:
one year/ up to date with current events
two years/ bachelor + to stat
four years/ master + to stat and a trait
We would have had a lot less heated discussions and could plan much more effectively, with less waffling around.
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Dude it's talking about the level of formality. What we voted on? We're clear to do a Formal Ball, Masquerade, Rowdy Dance, or Debauched Rave but not a Semi-Casual Social or a Relaxed Gathering.
Not really no, I think it would end up being worth it. Establish a reputation, hone a skill, build a network...
If automation is your only endgame it's a risky endeavor.
Another outcome is just much better parties.
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I am not sure about that.
Take a conference, a formal ball, or Night with the Oscars - establishing an event is not as dissimilar, as, let's say, building a factory.
You need effort, you need starting resources, planning, location, but once it is done, a routine achieved, _a lot_ less work is necessary in a follow up.
Why can we build a reactor and not care about its maintenance ever again, but not establish an yearly event, and not care about it's maintenance ever again?
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Horologer
Incertae sedis
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Establish a reputation – we're a member of the Stone family. This is not going to be a problem.
Hone a skill – you mean Study Politics?
Build a network – Seek Allies or Solidify Allies.
There are better ways to achieve those outcomes than throwing a party every year.
Maybe not automation in the strict sense of the word, but if it becomes a tradition, then that makes the job easier.
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We need to be our own woman to rise within the family. Riding the prestige of our forebears isn't enough.
Yes, study politics would do more for its individual area than throw a party, but it only addresses one area.
Yes, seek allies and solidify allies are important and better at their individual areas, but I think they benefit from a yearly party.
I believe there's room to spend 5/10 actions on parties and work the other stuff in around that, then either have automated parties or be satisfied stopping them and focus on studying.
Hmm, I do think this is a good argument; are there other actions people are in favor of committing an action to 5 years in a row? Starting by turn, say, 4?
I know @Nix wants to study; is there a particular study action people are willing to commit to in a big way?
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[X] Construct building
- build a reactor
[X] Patrol rail lines - Assign a unit to ensure the security of travellers in the rail lines. Current chance of encounter: LOW
[X] Patrol forest - Assign a unit to patrol the forests, seeking to eliminate dangerous wildlife or alien reavers before they become a problem. Current chance of encounter: MODERATE-HIGH
[X] Patrol forest - Assign a unit to patrol the forests, seeking to eliminate dangerous wildlife or alien reavers before they become a problem. Current chance of encounter: MODERATE-HIGH
[X] Nomad diplomacy - There are number of people who have adapted to a permanent lifestyle in the woods travelling near Razorleaf Meadows, and they might be amenable to trade or other opportunities if the right presentation is made
-PERSONAL ACTIONS-
[X] Solidify allies - Bring Samantha Sea and Massi Sturgeon into your corner
[X] Throw a party - Hold a major social gathering
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Going over and heavily patrolling the forest will more likely result in a better disposition and trade deals from the nomads.
- build a reactor
[X] Patrol rail lines - Assign a unit to ensure the security of travellers in the rail lines. Current chance of encounter: LOW
[X] Patrol forest - Assign a unit to patrol the forests, seeking to eliminate dangerous wildlife or alien reavers before they become a problem. Current chance of encounter: MODERATE-HIGH
[X] Patrol forest - Assign a unit to patrol the forests, seeking to eliminate dangerous wildlife or alien reavers before they become a problem. Current chance of encounter: MODERATE-HIGH
[X] Nomad diplomacy - There are number of people who have adapted to a permanent lifestyle in the woods travelling near Razorleaf Meadows, and they might be amenable to trade or other opportunities if the right presentation is made
-PERSONAL ACTIONS-
[X] Solidify allies - Bring Samantha Sea and Massi Sturgeon into your corner
[X] Throw a party - Hold a major social gathering
_______________________________________________________________
Going over and heavily patrolling the forest will more likely result in a better disposition and trade deals from the nomads.
Valkur
The True Valkyria, Valkur!
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- Fólkvangr
Just saying new allies sounds better than dealing with two powerful figures that were insulting each other. They may be competing for mayorship or something.
Getting to know more people helps us find out who would be accountable when it comes to assigning the position of mayor around here.
Getting to know more people helps us find out who would be accountable when it comes to assigning the position of mayor around here.
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They were teasing eachother, not insulting. Just playing the game.
If I recall correctly the person who assigns the position of mayor gave it to himself.
Valkur
The True Valkyria, Valkur!
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- Fólkvangr
True but theoretically he can be voted out. An teasing in front of the new Governor (new boss) could be a private war of one upping that's going on in the background. Just saying it's a possibility. In the end, unless were really good at reading people/mind reading we'll never know trully.
I still think that knowing more important people in the community would be nice.
I still think that knowing more important people in the community would be nice.
That's an insane thing to just assume when they take 1 of our 2 personal actions right now. In IRC, AN said that if there's automated actions it'd be with significant up-front investment.
If anything I'd imagine that we already stage minor social gatherings from time to time automatically and if we spend an action it, it means that we ARE doing a major party with all the big movers and shakers and no expenses spared.
@Academia Nut can you weigh in on this? (Before we start wasting all our actions on this dead end)
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Yep, various minor social gatherings:
I'd also like to know more about sustained effort at throwing parties if AN is willing to comment there.
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That would be everything.
Yes, the party in question is the big, expensive thing that takes enough resources and coordination among all the other management and military stuff you are doing that you can only really afford to do it once or twice a year, for now.
Can we establish this as an yearly event/gala that will not require an action from us with sustained effort?
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With enough repetition and support, yes.
Could you maybe elaborate at how many repititions would be necessary for this?
Three years in a row? Five? And what further support would we need?