He could also just be the Exigent of a different sun-related God.
General Exalted Thread
The Lion Sin of Pride;I don't actually know who Escanor is
Yes, those two are the same person.
It's more than that.
At the instant of High Noon he becomes "The One", possibly the most powerful thing in the entire setting;
Also he more or less had an actual Limit Break when this whole mess started.
- Location
- Pittsburgh, PA
I mean, my first thought was to take Old Lady Iblan hostage; even if they can't hear, the guards are presumably going to hesitate at killing their House's matriarch. If they are, then pop the withered bitch's head off and maim as many important people as possible while you run out the door, since at that point open warfare against House Iblan is basically impossible.
My second thought was to whack a limb off of one or two of the Iblan nobles present and then let the spearmen choose between saving their masters' lives or chasing you. Unfortunately, it means that you'll then be accused of trying to assassinate them if it works, and you'll never have a better chance to cut the head off the serpent like this.
What I'm saying is that you should kill Old Lady Iblan, maim the other two, then bail out and run for the Despot with a tale of skulduggery and attempted murder, with the Iblans trying to feed you to their pet raksha under a flag of truce.
- Location
- Gladstone, OR
Ahh but the trick there is that Bana and co are likely some 9+ yards away. Getting there to take her hostage would be Difficult. Fortunately for me I wouldn't be killing them in cold blood, per se- as they sicced the guards on Inks first, so her Compassion 3 would not likely trigger.
It's interesting that you're characterizing Bana that way- I personally don't see her as anything other than someone doing the Best She Can with What she Has. Exalted isn't a game of white hats and black hats, after all. You might be right re: open warfare, but I came away from this whole engagement as it being very far from Personal. Bana might be taking it personally because Inks said 'yeah I'm going to have to destroy your House, because you won't play ball', but Inks does not actually Hate or Despise House Iblan in general.
- Location
- Pittsburgh, PA
I mean, she's an elderly oligarch who (from what I understand) wouldn't have been terribly upset with the whole "raksha husband" thing beyond its impact on the House's reputation, and has been characterized as someone who was basically born as a joyless hidebound skinflint, only got more conservative over time, and has no desires or goals besides maintaining Gem's current state as a dystopian plutocratic oligarchy to make Henry Frick's beard bristle with avaricious glee.
From what I can gather, Inks' main goals are to make money, expand Gem's economic influence, and reform the plutocratic oligarchy to be at least a little less horrible to its component cogs than it is currently, without causing any disruption beyond the bare minimum - and Bana was already hitting a solid 8 on the Lucius Malfoy scale of sneering nobility over that before the busts started screaming.
Considering the last few years of American politics, I've got very little to offer people like that besides boiling rage, contained beneath a noisome film of chilly disdain.
Aleph
Princess of Stabbity
- Location
- The sixth circle of Hell (second on weekends)
- Pronouns
- She/Her
I mean, I'm not going to go into her exact reasons, but I can confidently say that if Inks had told her about that and proven it, Bana would have hit the fucking roof and probably sent a fully-armed Iblan legbreaker squad to bring her granddaughter in for a thoroughly unpleasant "talk". And as for "without causing any disruption beyond the bare minimum"...
... yeah, no. Sorry, but, hahah, no. I'm not going to deny that Inks is indeed reforming the plutocratic oligarchy to be less horrible, or that Gem as a city will likely end up wealthier for it and a more pleasant place to live for the average resident... but "without disruption"? No. Just by the very fundamental nature of what it is that she wants, Inks is going to wind up toppling the Great Houses in their current form, ripping apart the economic system of slavery that Gem is built on, unseating pretty much everyone currently on top of the heap including the Despot, and probably causing a decent-to-middling population turnover. It'll be a richer, fairer, nicer place to live afterwards, but even with Solar Charms in play there's going to be chaos during, and a lot of the people currently benefiting from the way it's set up (some of them relatively blameless, insofar as any non-slaves in Gem are) are not going to be around "afterwards", and certainly not in any fit state to appreciate it.
Bana isn't a blameless saint here, or even really in the right (well, except the political right, lol), but don't try to act like Inks isn't two short steps shy of an anarchist revolutionary in how she wants to utterly rewrite Gem's political and economic landscape from the underground up.
- Location
- Pittsburgh, PA
That just makes me more on board with wrecking Bana's shit
EDIT: More seriously, I'm a little groggy right now and don't have a terribly good picture of how Gem works, so I erred on the side of caution when trying to reconstruct an understanding of Inks' motives. Hence, I assumed she wasn't going full-bore Eat The Rich, and that Gem's economy wasn't actually dependent on slavery.
If it is... then yeah, no, Bana is part of the problem and this was basically an inevitable conflict.
Her not being okay with raksha husbando does push her out of the Henry Frick category, though, so there's that.
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- she/her
Sidereal Batman also works rather well in the context of the Justice League and the narrative rule that he wins with enough prep time.
- Location
- Ottawa
Plus he's a great martial artist.
But maybe he should be a Lunar instead. He's a monster-man who protects society from the outside, blending in through the use of a human form and becoming an animal-human hybird when violence needs doing. And he's got Superman as a Solar "mate".
Or perhaps he's an Infernal. A man who failed to save his parents, and reshaped himself into a monster so that he'd have the power to change the world. Some versions of Bruce Wayne treat the Batman persona as a split personality of sorts, a thing of madness and primal power that threatens to consume its host if he weakens.
And of course, anyone can be an Exigent.
But maybe he should be a Lunar instead. He's a monster-man who protects society from the outside, blending in through the use of a human form and becoming an animal-human hybird when violence needs doing. And he's got Superman as a Solar "mate".
Or perhaps he's an Infernal. A man who failed to save his parents, and reshaped himself into a monster so that he'd have the power to change the world. Some versions of Bruce Wayne treat the Batman persona as a split personality of sorts, a thing of madness and primal power that threatens to consume its host if he weakens.
And of course, anyone can be an Exigent.
notanautomaton
I've got 99 quests, I've finished one
For Infernal I'd point to Bruce getting beaten up the first time he went to be a vigilante. This failure led to the moment where he decided to begin dressing up as a bat and terrorizing criminals, rather than being a normal vigilante.
- Location
- Gladstone, OR
she's in the process of rewriting them, actually. We tried them out earlier.
Eldagusto
Voivode of Neterkhertet
- Location
- The Bleak Shores of Never in the Land of Naught
A talk about Creation's language makes me draw the alphabet for them since I have always wonder what they supposed to look like.
Yeah skytongue is basically just copy-paste Norse runes, the North is my least favorite direction so everything I do for it, I do it with a Made-in-China mentality.
This piece of art is so damn useful for demonstrating to my players...
So, how does 3E handle "barbarian" languages? Each their own dot just like "civilized" ones?
How does that apply specifically to variant written languages? I have a player who wants to be from not-Peru and another who wants to be from not-Egypt who want to know Quipu and the sacred hieroglyphics respectively.
Should I justs give it to them as fluff? I can foresee a few uses like running messages that can't be read without magic, or in the case of the Quipu are just assumed to be a decoration on clothing.
How does that apply specifically to variant written languages? I have a player who wants to be from not-Peru and another who wants to be from not-Egypt who want to know Quipu and the sacred hieroglyphics respectively.
Should I justs give it to them as fluff? I can foresee a few uses like running messages that can't be read without magic, or in the case of the Quipu are just assumed to be a decoration on clothing.
The Language merit lets you take four local languages with a single dot. Any language you speak, you can also write if you have Linguistics 1 or higher.
The complexity is that it is still Firetongue, its just different ways to write it.
grommile
nasty-minded old cynic
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- NERV-Mercia
- Pronouns
- Traditional/Animate
I'd probably go with "you have to pay two slots if you want to know two wildly different(1) writing systems for the same language, but if you learn another language for which one of those writing forms is the canonical writing form, you get a refund".
(1) e.g. I'd impose this cost for learning both Devanagari script and Nastaliq script for Hindustani(2) if you didn't also know Farsi or Arabic, or your example of learning both quipu vs. hieroglyphics for Firetongue, but not for learning both Cyrillic script and Latin script for BCMS.
(2) The dialect complex encompassing Urdu and Hindi.
(1) e.g. I'd impose this cost for learning both Devanagari script and Nastaliq script for Hindustani(2) if you didn't also know Farsi or Arabic, or your example of learning both quipu vs. hieroglyphics for Firetongue, but not for learning both Cyrillic script and Latin script for BCMS.
(2) The dialect complex encompassing Urdu and Hindi.
Please tell me you guys got rid of tick combat and speed >.>
- Location
- Gladstone, OR
No, I like tick combat and speed, @Aleph is rewriting mass combat because she wants to get rid of 'You Wear Them' and make Morale more of a thing than it presently is. The point of Inksgame is to be more of a straight 2e game (the positives) instead of a Kerisgame hack, because bluntly, I don't like a lot of Kerisgame's hacks. I agreed to test some of them (styles/Mote Reactor) because they deserve to be tested outside of Kerisgame's environment. The other factor is that this game is for me, primarily. In that I have not had a decent game of Exalted; most of my experiences were compromised by intrapersonal issues, scheduling, game design failings and so on. Aleph might be inexperienced as a storyteller, but in all other respects she is above and beyond competent.
Fair enough
Personally I just really disliked how 2E handled combat, whether mundane or otherwise, especially in the way it prioritized and rewarded Speed for the purposes of the number of actions, available mote regeneration, and the amount of time before your DV refreshes again, but I think a lot of my misgivings could potentially be solved by trying to standardize speed across different weapon types. But that's neither here nor there, and yeah, I never really liked the whole "your army is only a stat boost" thing that 2E mass combat did either.
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- Gladstone, OR
A hack I've wanted to do based speed on stamina, so high stamina characters acted more frequently and or had smaller cool down between actions. And a wider range of combat speeds. It's only a high concept at the moment.Fair enough
Personally I just really disliked how 2E handled combat, whether mundane or otherwise, especially in the way it prioritized and rewarded Speed for the purposes of the number of actions, available mote regeneration, and the amount of time before your DV refreshes again, but I think a lot of my misgivings could potentially be solved by trying to standardize speed across different weapon types. But that's neither here nor there, and yeah, I never really liked the whole "your army is only a stat boost" thing that 2E mass combat did either.
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- she/her
What annoyed me the most about Speed was how the majority of charmsets went onto ignore its existence, it helped make the choice of weapon (and magic material) one of the most far reaching in the game.Fair enough
Personally I just really disliked how 2E handled combat, whether mundane or otherwise, especially in the way it prioritized and rewarded Speed for the purposes of the number of actions, available mote regeneration, and the amount of time before your DV refreshes again, but I think a lot of my misgivings could potentially be solved by trying to standardize speed across different weapon types. But that's neither here nor there, and yeah, I never really liked the whole "your army is only a stat boost" thing that 2E mass combat did either.
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- A nondescript grave
Out of interest, what was the optimal choice in material based on the different weapon types chosen?
Always Jade. The -1 to speed made it the best, indisputably.