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rogthnor said:
Lyalka - The Bone China Princess of the Cinnabar Tree
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You miiiiight want to change the cinnabar part, it's already seen use in homebrew tied to Szoreny. If she were a soul of Szoreny I'd say it's fine, so you could also shift her over without too much issue? She also just feels....super Szoreny.
rogthnor said:
I might be misremembering but I thought while they can't bind her they could still summon her? Can't even a human sorcerer call a third circle in creation they just can't force them to obey afterwords?
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Third Circles require the highest tier of sorcery to summon, yeah, and as stated, summoning one is almost never a good idea, even if you can.
Unbanshee said:
This lets a sufficently driven terrestrial sorcerer call up 2nd and third circle demons if they're willing to put the time and effort and xp into calling them.
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Actually, I don't think you can do Adamant Circle Workings without being at least celestial Circle, right? So a Celestial Sorcery could summon a demon like that, but not a terrestrial.
 
Monotov said:
You miiiiight want to change the cinnabar part, it's already seen use in homebrew tied to Szoreny. If she were a soul of Szoreny I'd say it's fine, so you could also shift her over without too much issue? She also just feels....super Szoreny.
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She's meant to. She's a pantheon demon made using earthscropions homebrew, specifically shes a mix of metagaos and szoreny. Thank you for the reply though!
 
Monotov said:
Actually, I don't think you can do Adamant Circle Workings without being at least celestial Circle, right? So a Celestial Sorcery could summon a demon like that, but not a terrestrial.
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IIRC you can't do Ambition 3 adamant workings without at least celestial circle sorcery? Regardless, it takes an amazing amount of time and expense to work beyond your limits, and there's always the risk that you're gonna bomb the rolls.
 
Crawling Chaos said:
Interesting, but I was thinking something more along the ideas of it being one of Elloge's charms or as a plot idea. Like you have an artifacr or Infernal Exalted corrupting one of Creation's languages and you need to stop it before things get out of hand. That kind of thing.
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I'd take that as more something an Abyssal or a Necromancer could do. The Underworld is all about perverting and torturing logic to get a technically coherent conclusion. Words are a language, languages express ideas, emotions are an idea, therefore words = emotions.

Elloge, on the other hand, is about delusional coping mechanisms and hiding from the world. An Ellogean "cognitohazardous word" Charm would probably be a vector for the Infernal's particular delusion ("I don't know what the fuss is - it's a perfectly cromulent thing to do!") or be harmful explicitly to people whose Motivations/Major Intimacies make them completely unsuited for the narrative you're hiding behind (so you shoo all the super-Compassionate people away from your nightmarish dystopian Gotham, because you think the world is a horrible shithole and can't handle the idea of nice people existing - they're all liars, they'll hurt you again!)
 
Monotov said:
You miiiiight want to change the cinnabar part, it's already seen use in homebrew tied to Szoreny. If she were a soul of Szoreny I'd say it's fine, so you could also shift her over without too much issue? She also just feels....super Szoreny.
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It seems more than a little limiting to expect homebrew to not intrude on the content of other homebrew. The fact that ES did a very good rendition of the Silver Forest doesn't mean that mercury, cinnabar, envy, poison, performance-enhancing drugs, alchemy, etc. are now banned from everyone else unless they are consciously doing homebrew meant to coincide with ES's. I have seen a Solar associated with cinnabar in a game because of Chinese lacquerware.
 
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Exthalion said:
It seems more than a little limiting to expect homebrew to not intrude on the content of other homebrew. The fact that ES did a very good rendition of the Silver Forest doesn't mean that mercury, cinnabar, envy, poison, performance-enhancing drugs, alchemy, etc. are now banned from everyone else unless they are consciously doing homebrew meant to coincide with ES's. I have seen a _Solar_ associated with cinnabar in a game because of Chinese lacquerware.
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While I agree, I also very explicitly stole the cinnabar connection from ES, which then emerged into a painting theme and pottery theme
 
Who told you cinnabar was associated with Szoreny?

Was it Szoreny?

I mean, Szoreny is totally trustworthy and honest and has never stolen anything in it's life.
 
Exthalion said:
It seems more than a little limiting to expect homebrew to not intrude on the content of other homebrew. The fact that ES did a very good rendition of the Silver Forest doesn't mean that mercury, cinnabar, envy, poison, performance-enhancing drugs, alchemy, etc. are now banned from everyone else unless they are consciously doing homebrew meant to coincide with ES's. I have seen a _Solar_ associated with cinnabar in a game because of Chinese lacquerware.
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Even "more than a little limiting" would be an understatement, especially when it comes to someone as prolific as ES. Like, for example, doing that would rule out anyone ever doing anything with the Southwest.
 
So I've had this idea for a campaign setting for a little while now. It's been percolating in the back of my head, and now that I've got a little better grounding in the lore of exalted I'm thinking about trying to take that idea for a setting and build a story out of it.

The bare bones of this setting idea is that due to as yet unexplained phenomenon(Not a ROB, or at least not a Random one.) the city states and nation of Creation are partially 1632edtm​(Like the town for the Eric Flint books) into onto part of earth. The reason I say partially is becuse I want them to share space with what was there before they got 1632edtm​.

Namely the earth of Destiny 2 post vanilla single player campaign. Say just after The Dawning/ Calibration. Though you could likely get away with dropping them off in any post apocalyptic setting. I'm just going with Destiny for fun ,and at least to me, balance.

Now at this point in time I have a rough idea on where I would put the various points on the map, but I'm mainly looking for ideas on consequences. Like I know Putting the various city's ,smaller settlements, and more importantly people of the Blessed Isle within spiting distance of the Last City is likely to cause problems. Problems that likely involve armies. But what I have yet ti settle in my head is how for instance the Immaculate Faith will recessional Guardians, there Ghosts, and possibly most important of all The Traveler.

Another half formed idea is the River confederation, and where to put the different nation across North America.

Would anyone be interested in helping me build on this. Maybe even build the groundwork for a campaign out of it?
 
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Tahu1809 said:
Now at this point in time I have a rough idea on where I would put the various points on the map, but I'm mainly looking for ideas on consequences. Like I know Putting the various city's ,smaller settlements, and more importantly people of the Blessed Isle within spiting distance of the Last City is likely to cause problems. Problems that likely involve armies. But what I have yet ti settle in my head is how for instance the Immaculate Faith will recessional Guardians, there Ghosts, and possibly most important of all The Traveler.
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There is a joke here about how Guardians are heroic humans specifically chosen by a divine entity to act as its champions, harnessing the power of the stars, the void, and the elements.

Yeah they're basically Exalted. :V
 
MJ12 Commando said:
There is a joke here about how Guardians are heroic humans specifically chosen by a divine entity to act as its champions, harnessing the power of the stars, the void, and the elements.

Yeah they're basically Exalted. :V
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Well yes. Guardians more or less being exalted aside I was talking more about more or less the entire human population of Creation being transported to the Destiny's verse Earth.
 
Tahu1809 said:
Well yes. Guardians more or less being exalted aside I was talking more about more or less the entire human population of Creation being transported to the Destiny's verse Earth.
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I don't know much about Destiny, but I'd assume that the setting would be in some seriously deep shit.

Creation has a lot more habitable real estate than Earth does; "most or all" of its mortal inhabitants is probably going to constitute a number in low-to-mid eleven figures (tens of billions), all suddenly being dumped off on a planet that was already kinda crowded when it had 7 billion people on it. That sounds like a recipe for absolute bedlam and a lot of deaths.
 
GardenerBriareus said:
Creation has a lot more habitable real estate than Earth does; "most or all" of its mortal inhabitants is probably going to constitute a number in low-to-mid eleven figures (tens of billions), all suddenly being dumped off on a planet that was already kinda crowded when it had 7 billion people on it.
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No.

In the First Age, that was accurate, and maybe even in the Shogunate enough people hadn't yet died from lack of supporting infrastructure for that to be true, but I'd be very surprised if there were 20 billion left before the Great Contagion and Balorian Crusade happened. Which killed off 999 out of 1000 of all mortals between them. The massive amount of habitable land has enabled the population to grow quite a bit since then, but it's still mostly medieval technology. Most arguments I've seen puts the total at 3-4 billion, with 1 billion of those on the Blessed Isle.
 
GardenerBriareus said:
I don't know much about Destiny, but I'd assume that the setting would be in some seriously deep shit.

Creation has a lot more habitable real estate than Earth does; "most or all" of its mortal inhabitants is probably going to constitute a number in low-to-mid eleven figures (tens of billions), all suddenly being dumped off on a planet that was already kinda crowded when it had 7 billion people on it. That sounds like a recipe for absolute bedlam and a lot of deaths.
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beowolf said:
No.

In the First Age, that was accurate, and maybe even in the Shogunate enough people hadn't yet died from lack of supporting infrastructure for that to be true, but I'd be very surprised if there were 20 billion left before the Great Contagion and Balorian Crusade happened. Which killed off 999 out of 1000 of all mortals between them. The massive amount of habitable land has enabled the population to grow quite a bit since then, but it's still mostly medieval technology. Most arguments I've seen puts the total at 3-4 billion, with 1 billion of those on the Blessed Isle.
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I've heard that the non-magical technology level is some where around late iron age? At least in the case of the Realm. And the population numbers you give beowolf sound about right. With that said GardenerBriareus one of the things about Destiny is that most of the planets and moons in Sol have been terraformed, so if there wasn't enough room on Earth I could spread the population across the system
 
beowolf said:
No.

In the First Age, that was accurate, and maybe even in the Shogunate enough people hadn't yet died from lack of supporting infrastructure for that to be true, but I'd be very surprised if there were 20 billion left before the Great Contagion and Balorian Crusade happened. Which killed off 999 out of 1000 of all mortals between them. The massive amount of habitable land has enabled the population to grow quite a bit since then, but it's still mostly medieval technology. Most arguments I've seen puts the total at 3-4 billion, with 1 billion of those on the Blessed Isle.
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3E or 2E?
Because IIRC, there were First Age population figures that put Creation around ten billion or so in 2E.
700 years post-Balorean Crusade, population is supposed to be ~500 million or so, with a hundred million on the Blessed Isle and each Direction averaging a hundred million each.
 
uju32 said:
3E or 2E?
Because IIRC, there were First Age population figures that put Creation around ten billion or so in 2E.
700 years post-Balorean Crusade, population is supposed to be ~500 million or so, with a hundred million on the Blessed Isle and each Direction averaging a hundred million each.
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Interesting, and thank you from saving me from a double post.

Anyway, I was talking about this with @Walker of the Yellow Path my ST in a one on one game we were running, and we started spit balling some things about the realm in general for this setting that could really be applied to any Exalted game. Namely we were talking about the deteriorating political situation on the Blessed Isle and the Realm as a whole.

So the way I have this setting set up right now is that it has been seven years since the Empress has vanished. The Civil war among the Dynast's at this point is all but a matter of who fires the first shot. Now Walker pointed out to me that chunks of creation being isekaied in mass to Destiny verse Earth could rather then be the spark that sets the war off instead be a strong enough "outside threat" for the Realm to come together, and put it's collective baggage on the back burner. His argument being that up till this point the modern Realm had never had one before, and that it would be the shock to the system that they needed to survive.

I argued that the realm has other outside threats the biggest being the Bull in the North, who after eating a whole legion, and the better part of a Great House was now consolidating his power in the North East. He(Walker) pointed out that is just about all he's done. I brought up the Confederacy of Rivers. He pointed out that can really be summed up as Lookshy+. Baring the Locust Crusade (Autochthon), or The First and Forsaken Lion getting his act together I don't think in base Exalted you really have a existential threat that could be used to prop up the Realm, and while I could be wrong I think that this has been true for most of the Scarlet Dynasty's existence.

With that thought in mind I drift back to my setting idea, and weather this crisis would provided the momentum need to stop the Realm form tearing itself apart, or this would be the straw that brakes it's back. I know in either scenario there is going to be a refugee crisis. Said crisis would draw the Last City into the affairs of the Realm, and I want to try and build a game around that.

Dose anyone have any thoughts, or suggestion with this in mind? You don't really need much detailed knowledge of Destiny at this junction as right now I trying to work out the who the realm would be reacting to events.
 
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I think it looks pretty neat. Needs fleshing out with a plethora more techniques but apart from that it's quite good.
 
Unbanshee said:
Who told you cinnabar was associated with Szoreny?

Was it Szoreny?

I mean, Szoreny is totally trustworthy and honest and has never stolen anything in it's life.
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Well, I mean, while one should always just assume that there's a good chance Szoreny is lying to you, cinnabar is mercury sulphide and thus there is an increased chance that it's natural to him.

Unless there was a sulphur Primordial he stole the sulphur from, of course. Possibly Mardukth, if he was a sulphurous volcano.
 
ILLUSION SHATTERING CALL
Essence 2, Performance 4.

The lords of the exalted, bring enlightenment and clears clouded minds. The solar makes a speech, a roar against the lies of the world, or calls for her audience to see the truth.

Rolling her (performance + charisma) against the opponents (manipulation + larceny), with essence as automatic successes, the solar sees if she can bring clarity to the audience. Upon a success, all forms of unnatural mental influence upon the subjects are removed and made obvious.

A/n: please review. This.... didn't really fit. But it works for the 'I know you're on there!' Scenes.
 
Let me try to write an idea. So how about this. A sorcerer, specialising in occult, wants to make things better for the people. Problem. He can't do anything huge. His anima will flare, and there's a frickin' Immaculate order right next door.

He can't kill them, that'll attract attention. He can't subvert them, cause they're 1. Very loyal to the faith. 2. Have defenses against that sort of thing. 3. Every now and then, a dragonblooded drops off and talks to them.

Obviously, he has to help them out. But... via proxies, and secondary sources. Cue the plan. Become a sorcerer. Pretend to be normal. And then start making sorcerous workings, which are really useful, but done over long periods of time, so that: Yes, some sorcerer is making great sorcerous workings that benefit the people. But its just a sorcerer. Not like they have occult knowledge that this sorcerer is way too good at this shit to be a mortal.

So Secret Solar Sorcerer does things like create massive irrigation works and aqueducts, plants which produce dyes and fabric, and watermelons that contain meat, and all sorts of weird things you would expect from a sorcerer.

What do you think of this character idea?
 
Accelerator said:
Let me try to write an idea. So how about this. A sorcerer, specialising in occult, wants to make things better for the people. Problem. He can't do anything huge. His anima will flare, and there's a frickin' Immaculate order right next door.

He can't kill them, that'll attract attention. He can't subvert them, cause they're 1. Very loyal to the faith. 2. Have defenses against that sort of thing. 3. Every now and then, a dragonblooded drops off and talks to them.

Obviously, he has to help them out. But... via proxies, and secondary sources. Cue the plan. Become a sorcerer. Pretend to be normal. And then start making sorcerous workings, which are really useful, but done over long periods of time, so that: Yes, some sorcerer is making great sorcerous workings that benefit the people. But its just a sorcerer. Not like they have occult knowledge that this sorcerer is way too good at this shit to be a mortal.

So Secret Solar Sorcerer does things like create massive irrigation works and aqueducts, plants which produce dyes and fabric, and watermelons that contain meat, and all sorts of weird things you would expect from a sorcerer.

What do you think of this character idea?
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Try to get on the court of a preexisting and known to be mortal ruler in the area. Local king bribed a sorcerer with wine, women, and song fits better into the cynical DB worldview than the idea that someone with vast power would use it selflessly without compensation.
 
Exthalion said:
Try to get on the court of a preexisting and known to be mortal ruler in the area. Local king bribed a sorcerer with wine, women, and song fits better into the cynical DB worldview than the idea that someone with vast power would use it selflessly without compensation.
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Oh. Urm....

Sigh. That's true. I suppose that's an idea. Sorcerer swears himself into service of a king, and then uses him as a proxy to improve lives? Use him as a figurehead, so that he can avoid attention from the Wild Hunt and all? Leverage his magic and the kingdom's resources together to make a greater whole?
 
dont even use the king as a figurehead. Just be all "O King, i want you to back me up and support me and my needs and my interests. In exchange you get a bomb diggity sorcerer who's loyal to you." and then stick with the loyalty. They won't trust you at first, but you as a sorcerer are too amazingly valuable as a resource for them to just toss you aside. Leave the Kinging to the king, don't try and take over. Whenever you want to try a working to improve the lives of the common folk, present it in such a way that it highlights how useful such a working is for the king and you'll get as much support as they can afford to give for it.
 
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