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zambkptkn said:
Nitrogen purging of electronics compartments is common in all the industry I've worked around. In fact, I can't think of anyone nearby who uses anything other than nitrogen. Yeah, any inert gas should work, and looking on the internet I see that CO2 is supposedly common as well, but I've only seen nitrogen purging out in the field. Partly because nitrogen is relatively easy to separate from normal atmosphere, and thus dirt cheap to produce or purchase. And local industry isn't really looking for a 'pure' N2 atmosphere, just less than 1% oxygen to prevent explosions or fire. Plus, you can vent nitrogen to atmosphere without an issue, which you certainly can't do with Halon (though I admit I don't know if emissions are an issue with CO2).

And a basic N2 purge good enough to maintain <1% O2 in the affected compartment is not at all difficult to build or maintain. The hardest part is ensuring a good seal on the compartment, and you'd have that problem no matter what gas you use.
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As a purge or even in small vessels (storage tanks or small external enclosures for moisture sensitive electronics), yes, but as a "working" atmosphere for a server room? I'm skeptical. Especially given that maintenance/upgrade/emergency access requirements would mean needing to get into the space a lot more frequently than you might think.

As to the Halon, you wouldn't necessarily need to purge the gas in order to get access, just setup an airlock. As far as the venting of Halon to atmosphere: If the CMAFS facility is penetrated that badly, environmental friendliness is probably the last thing on anyone's mind.
Waffelmeister said:
DU might make for a better bullet, but I personally wouldn't want to be the guy that has to pick up the mess after unloading it all across the US soil and ocean. While the vengeful eyes of the EPA and other three letter acronym groups try to bore through your skull.
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Fun thing is is that every ship equipped with the Phalanx is required to do a test firing every three to six months for training/maintenance purposes. Not only does the ocean make a wonderful radiation shield (see the design spec on admiral Rickover's Nautilus), but the orange plastic sabot wrappers is some of the very rare plastic that the Navy is legally allowed to merely sweep over the side of the ship - in international waters.
cryptoam said:
That and the fact that when the rounds fall, it is better to have them blow up high in the air and fall as smaller bits of metal(over a wide area) than as individual mases of dense metal.
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That is actually much, much, worse. The whole controversy over DU rounds from the "receiving end" is that the dust is a sufficient alpha radiation hazard that breathing it is likely to cause cancer down the road, and now you are introducing wind drift/dispersion. For conventional HE rounds, it may be "whatever," but for DU it would be bad. The problem with this train of thought is that the US Government seems to prefer the cheap, "dirty," and effective over the environmentally friendly on larger caliber weapons systems.
 
The land version of Phalanx uses high explosive incendiary tracers not DU rounds.
 
RecklessPrudence said:
Oh derp, I shoulda thought of that. So we can halt the degradation in its tracks, and with the same first step of that, start on fixing the damage. It might not get all of it, since there may be parts of Asgardian DNA that their stupid copy-the-copy method is more likely to degrade, but you should get most of it, and then your geneticists or the latest butt-extracted miracle of the Tau'ri can fix the rest!
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I suspect the problem was that most Asgard had been killed by the replicators which caused serious depression hence why they were willing to commit suicide. Cause seriously the universe had it out for them over the last few years.
rdmcmains said:
While the staff weapon could use a faster cycling time, what it really needs is sights and a buttstock. That's an armorer's job, not a physicsbender's.
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Even if you did that they seem fairly slow firing which is my explanation for why SGC never did that. They probably experimented with doing so but concluded it wasn't worth it.
LostArchivist said:
I really want to see what happens if the remaining Ancients come across her disdain for their technology...

I really love how well you've captured the absentminded genius with this. Even her halfassed prototypes are infinitely valuable to anyone else. :p And of course I love the idea of Stargate and friends starting to worry about how she just used the entire charge of a (previously-empty, which is even more worrying) ZPM so casually like that (and thus what SHE considers high-power)...
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Personally I would suspect she didn't charge the ZPM to full that simply being how long until she had enough power for her gate home. Cause the Ancient weren't idiots unless under serious pressure (which is why there more stupid devices come from) so why wouldn't they notice that this is possible? Also her gravity generates don't display the abilities to produce planet cracking energies trivially which is the lower end estimate for a fully charged ZMP. Though even a slow charging method would be very useful for the SGC and would make sense for the Ancient's to have. Maybe that's what powers the DHDs?
 
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cryptoam said:
The land version of Phalanx uses high explosive incendiary tracers not DU rounds.
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That may very well be, for practical reasons, but when acronym CIWS is combined with the words "Aegis Weapons System," you're referring to the Naval version. Which is not to say that the ammunition load can't be changed out for the same reasons that LPWS selected the HE/tracer loadout.
 
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One of my problems with naming the Top Secret Stargate Command, 'Stargate Command' is that it is like naming The Manhattan Project, The Nuclear Bomb Project.
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A interesting way to keep a secret.
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Frogs321 said:
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One of my problems with naming the Top Secret Stargate Command, 'Stargate Command' is that it is like naming The Manhattan Project, The Nuclear Bomb Project.
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A interesting way to keep a secret.
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The thing is that, canonically, the SGC is directly under NORAD. The public face of the Cheyenne Mountain Complex is still up there, tracking satellites and orbital debris amongst other things.
The Stargate Project's legend (aka cover story) is that it's a satellite tracking and telemetry adjunct to NORAD itself.
It's also not directly connected to the surface at all, except by the main access shaft directly above the gate itself; you have to go to the lower basement (plant room) of the NORAD section then change elevators by going through a flimsy office partition wall set up down there with some suitably nerdy props scattered around the "office" that is hiding in there. So, publicly, the "stargate command" is an ironically overblown title for an obscure and arcane research project in the basement of the CMC.
 
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I had almost added a skit in my above post about by naming a "deep space research and telemetering command" 'Stargate Command' so that no one would take it seriously if someone made a slip of the tongue.
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Yup, a interesting way to hide a secret by not being a secret.
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rdmcmains said:
Especially since this may be before Rodney ever finds out about the Gate in the first place.
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Clearly not. They have a ZPM and know what it does, which means they are well past McKay's first introduction, which was in season 5; way before they found their first ZPM in season 7.
Frogs321 said:
Yup, a interesting way to hide a secret by not being a secret.
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This is why Carter's dad offers to pull some strings to get her into the astronaut programme and gets so confused when she turns him down flat – he even says something about satellite telemetry not being that interesting.
 
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Think of the nested NDAs that you would/could need on the name, cover story and what Stargate Command really was about as a Monty Python skit.

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J-Sail said:
NORAD hasn't been inside of CMAFS in over a decade. Google Maps has it located on Peterson AFB. This is not to say that it can't still function as such.

Probably before they moved NORAD and stopped giving public tours...
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There isn't a lot to see. I went on a tour 25-ish years ago and as I recall it looked like someone had stacked a bunch of storage containers inside a mine.
 
Mr_Rose said:
The thing is that, canonically, the SGC is directly under NORAD. The public face of the Cheyenne Mountain Complex is still up there, tracking satellites and orbital debris amongst other things.
The Stargate Project's legend (aka cover story) is that it's a satellite tracking and telemetry adjunct to NORAD itself.
It's also not directly connected to the surface at all, except by the main access shaft directly above the gate itself; you have to go to the lower basement (plant room) of the NORAD section then change elevators by going through a flimsy office partition wall set up down there with some suitably nerdy props scattered around the "office" that is hiding in there. So, publicly, the "stargate command" is an ironically overblown title for an obscure and arcane research project in the basement of the CMC.
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Frankly those that don't take it claims at face value probably do suspect its some sort of research base or maybe special operations with odd devices considering all the scientists and soldiers. Of course if they spotted the archaeologists and linguist on staff they would be suspicious. Personally I suspect the project personal are officially split amongst a couple of non-existent projects to conceal how odd SGC actually is or its casualties rates. It would explain how no one has noticed the oddities about the staffing.
 
Mr_Rose said:
Clearly not. They have a ZPM and know what it does, which means they are well past McKay's first introduction, which was in season 5; way before they found their first ZPM in season 7.
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There's an EDM Easter Egg there, so obviously TV!Taylor went and planted a depleted ZPM somewhere that would be found and recovered by a SG team beforehand.

That way, when DL!Taylor shows up, she has a way to get home without further meddling needed.

 
edale said:
NORAD's Cheyanne Mountain base was reactivated over a year ago... Ok, so a year and 9 days ago, but that's still over a year!

But yea, Cheyanne Mountain is up and running again, though it's only operating as the primary backup in case the Peterson base gets shut down due to COVID.

As to the tours bit, when did I ever say it was the public that kept asking about the location of the SGC? It was literally almost everyone asking that. Military personnel would ask, visiting foreign dignitaries would ask, The President asked it jokingly during a visit once (though I'll admit, I'm not sure which president).

It's pretty much the same thing as going to Area 51 and asking to see the aliens. They know there's no aliens there, but they ask anyways for the lulz.
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Ummm... that timing. Unless there was another reason to start with, they had advance warning of covid?
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Nevermind, I think below may address that...
deathofrats0808 said:
It was made the NORAD and USNORTHCOM Alternate Command Centre in 2008. Probably because they still have most of the equipment they need, and it's inside a mountain and unlikely to be blown to bits.
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This chapter has me torn.

Do I want more wordz in the canon universe or more wordz in this sidestory universe? Then again, I just re-read "Taylor is DOOMed" and want more wordz there.

About the only thing I can actually determine at this point, is that I'm addicted to wordz.
 
Flenser said:
Ummm... that timing. Unless there was another reason to start with, they had advance warning of covid?
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Erm... They made the decision just a few days before the WHO declared COVID a pandemic, when there were already just shy of 100,000 cases confirmed worldwide. The danger COVID posed was known by quite a few people at that point. It's not unusual at all for the military to take measures to ensure their strategic command can operate 24/7 in the face of potential threats less serious than a potential pandemic.
 
J-Sail said:
And why did they use anything other than the standard DU/tracer loadout in the first place?
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Well, for one, I'd assume that the requested security level of Prime Asset would mean that they upgraded to less shitty munition than DU/tracer mix. HE might be currently used but I'd personally go for modern solution of timed fuse fragmentation/flechette ammo as it greatly increases the chances of hit. The timed fuse is set as the projectile leaves the barrel, using data provided by the targeting system and known velocity of the bullet.

J-Sail said:
CIWS is combined with the words "Aegis Weapons System," you're referring to the Naval version.
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Well, there's now AEGIS Ashore too... :)
 
p_l said:
AEGIS Ashore
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This. I thought it was fairly obvious which version the omake was referring to.
p_l said:
modern solution of timed fuse fragmentation/flechette ammo
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Not sure about that. The CIWS system that I know of that has such capability is the Rheinmetall Oerlikon Millennium Gun(well, that's the full official name). It uses 35mil rounds (AHEAD) with a programmable magnetic fuse (uses magnetism to program each round, not as the actual fusing signal). I'm not sure you can do the same for 20 mil rounds that the Phalanx system uses.
 
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