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If that breaks your Suspension of Disbelief, then maybe you should find a different story.
It is a story in basically a comic superhero setting, based on that it is expected that superhumans exist. Most superhero stories explain why a super is super or got to be super. I'd like to see that here. Sam thought Ancient as a guess. She may be on to something.
 
It is a story in basically a comic superhero setting, based on that it is expected that superhumans exist. Most superhero stories explain why a super is super or got to be super. I'd like to see that here. Sam thought Ancient as a guess. She may be on to something.
As far as I know the reasons for most of the Marvel Geniuses are unexplained so this is really no different. Unless some comic book source says they're all low-key mutants or something.
Or if you're going off real life, there are polymaths who advance things a great deal, with no explanation other than just being smart and having something to build off of.
 
It is a story in basically a comic superhero setting, based on that it is expected that superhumans exist. Most superhero stories explain why a super is super or got to be super. I'd like to see that here. Sam thought Ancient as a guess. She may be on to something.
She's born with the potential for great intelligence and trained it up until it turned into a Mental Charles Atlas superpower.

There! Now you have an explanation that is right on level with the ones given in the comic books and you can stop complaining.

And best of all, it's the same explanation that was given in the story right from the start and that you chose to ignore.
 
Personally I would suspect she didn't charge the ZPM to full that simply being how long until she had enough power for her gate home. Cause the Ancient weren't idiots unless under serious pressure (which is why there more stupid devices come from) so why wouldn't they notice that this is possible? Also her gravity generates don't display the abilities to produce planet cracking energies trivially which is the lower end estimate for a fully charged ZMP. Though even a slow charging method would be very useful for the SGC and would make sense for the Ancient's to have. Maybe that's what powers the DHDs?
  1. She stated that she needed at least 40% charge to work, and she charged it to at least 60% as a safety margin, which was mentioned in-text. I forget if she took it farther.
  2. The ZPM still glowed after she used it, which means it had extra power.
  3. I may be remembering this one wrongly, but I think someone said "full" in their descriptions.
  4. She used a subspace energy tap to charge it, and I assume those are both high powered and variable yield. She could have easily made a large one.
  5. She actually said that she charged it slowly because she was worried that any more might blow it up!
 
In this story Taylor is basically a Marvel Comics level super-genius, much like Tony Stark is. Her super power is super intelligence.

Taylor was either taunting the military, or being clueless about how her actions would reasonably be perceived by the military.

Sure, she basically has the power of super-intelligence, but neither of those things is part of that power. Acting as though they are is HPMOR-style "intelligence", not actual intelligence.
 
Sure, she basically has the power of super-intelligence, but neither of those things is part of that power. Acting as though they are is HPMOR-style "intelligence", not actual intelligence.

Note that actual intelligence, in our world? Is VISIBLY negatively correlated with the quality called "common sense". (And no, you don't have a definition of THAT, either.)

What you think Taylor ought to be doing or thinking because "everybody knows that"? Puts no in-story constraints on what she's actually doing or thinking, in other words.

Dave, she got caught up in "oooo, science shiny" and that pushed out "you know, maybe these guys would shoot me" to a lower level of priority. she is not Spacebattles Competent, and neither are you
 
Intelligence is NOT the same thing as wisdom or experience.
DL Taylor is indeed comic-book genius level intelligent. She's also a 15 year old girl, who is still quite inexperienced with the wider world. Could she have done things better? Of course. But let's not assume she has the benefit of our meta-knowledge, at least initially, she had no idea just what kind of government/people she'd inadvertently barged in on, and her hoping to get home without having to find out the hard way that the locals aren't friendly is quite reasonable.
 
More likely, Taylor, being a 15 year old who has pretty much exclusively good interactions with the military, didn't even think they would seriously try and hurt her.
 
This comment sparked a silly omake idea and I had to bang it out before I could get anything else done... :)
This silly omake was beyond hilariously good. I adore it with much glory and happiness. Thanks for writing such a hilarious and grand crossover.

I actually also think it would be grand to continue this crossover. Just the responses from the SGC side of things alone would probably be enough but the idea of her coming to visit would be even more hilarious. The fact that the SGC now has reliable forcefield technology and a way to recharge a ZPM is also of course pretty game breaking.

What also is fun is that she did leave behind well... leavings so they can pretty much be sure from shit she was human. :p Also I think that they should have been able to trace her through the air ducts or at the very least her arrival point to the lab.
 
What also is fun is that she did leave behind well... leavings so they can pretty much be sure from shit she was human. :p Also I think that they should have been able to trace her through the air ducts or at the very least her arrival point to the lab.
They might also determine she is human but has some strange genetic variations from the norm. From what she left which implies diet and her voice sample they should be able to figure out where in the US she came from and it should match fairly close to Boston on their Earth. Lots of stuff for a good forensic pathologist.

Story mentioned that she had her personal invisibility shield with her that she invented from looking at Squealer's broken stealth tech. Made her invisible and inaudible to normal observation. SG likely has ways to see past that though as they have run into this sort of thing before, but it was enough to let her get around the base unseen and unheard.

One of the things that helped a lot is that Taylor was well equipped with what she had with her to examine and do stuff with the tech she did run across.
 
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Story mentioned that she had her personal invisibility shield with her that she invented from looking at Squealer's broken stealth tech. Made her invisible and inaudible to normal observation. SG likely has ways to see past that though as they have run into this sort of thing before, but it was enough to let her get around the base unseen and unheard.
What I meant about tracing her through the air ducts was that she would have left a dusty trail, such that the poor woman sent into them to check clearly encountered lots of dust, so that kind of evidence should have been there clearly.
 
Jack: So she got around using the airducts and left a dusty trail for us to follow and no one noticed?

Carter: Yes sir. In hindsight it's something we should have thought of at the time.

Jack: Well, it's obvious now that she was a student of the John McClane school of snooping and sneakiness, so we didn't really have any chance of catching her without having a guy called Hans looking for her.

Teal'c: Is this Hans a specialist in detecting security threats using airducts O'Neill?

Jack: No T, no he's not...*sighs*...but I know what movie we'll be watching this weekend.

Teal'c *raises eyebrow in curiosity* Indeed?
 
I'm not going to get into yet another massive argument about how I'm doing it wrong, but I'll just leave a few points here...

The situation is, from Taylor's point of view:

  1. She and her family and friends came under fire from an unknown enemy and legged it using their evacuation plan. In her case, this went wrong.
  2. When she worked out that it had gone wrong, she initially and fairly reasonably assumed that it had only gone a little wrong and she was in roughly the right place but in the incorrect exact location.
  3. Based on that, she headed toward where she thought she should have ended up rather than away.
  4. It would also have been much trickier to exit the vent system on the surface, for reasons of distance, intervening machinery, and probably security. And as in the point above, at that point she had no reason to really believe her actions weren't correct.
  5. By the time she realized that she was a lot further away from home than she'd expected, she was also fully aware she was in an unknown and almost certainly top secret military base.
  6. Unknown people popping up in top secret military bases tend to upset the military running those bases. She's not stupid, she knows that full well.
  7. As a result of this, simply dropping out of a vent and saying brightly "Hi, there, I'm Taylor and I'm in the wrong world! Can I borrow your Stargate?" is exceptionally unlikely to work out well for her or anyone else. Again, she's easily able to work this out without trying it ;)
  8. Getting captured unwillingly by this unknown military is even less likely to work out well. In ways that range from being shot on sight to put in jail forever. So that's also a thing to avoid.
  9. While the SG people are in reality somewhat more reasonable than she might fear, she doesn't know that and can't take the chance. And even if General Hammond was willing to help, he'd be obliged to report it upstairs and those people would definitely immediately decide that she and all her toys were now their property. They've got form for that sort of thing...
  10. There's enough stuff lying around she can borrow to build a way home, especially once she's studied the situation.
  11. There's a place that will give enough privacy for long enough (nearly) to do this unobserved. Another hour or so and she'd have been gone by the time they walked through the door.
  12. Conveniently there's also equipment around the place that makes her own security easier to arrange. But if that hadn't been present she'd have done something else.
  13. She 'paid' for the inconvenience of temporarily misplacing alien technology that the SG people did, after all, either simply stumble across or flat out steal by fixing some of it, making notes on much of the rest, and leaving a document behind on purpose that would jump them decades ahead in one step. It's a fair deal even if not according to normal military protocol. Sam would vehemently agree...
  14. By the time they found her, she'd been working for about 20 hours straight without sleep, was very worried about her dad and friends, was scared about what might happen if she didn't get back, and was basically a little punch-drunk from exhaustion and stress. As a result she was slightly more talkative than normal :)

So, given the above, what else was she reasonably expected to do? Throwing herself on the mercy of people who would almost certainly take her appearing out of nowhere inside an obviously very secret place somewhat badly was about the last thing she'd try. Escaping entirely from the base was probably possible, but by the time she was sure that she might have to, it would have been much more difficult and even if she succeeded would put most of the stuff she required for a quick exit out of reach. Again, not something to do other than a last resort.

She did the best she could with what she had and what she knew of the situation. I can't really see what other choices she had.

And of course this is an omake and just for fun, sparked by a comment made by a reader. So you don't have to take it seriously if you don't want to ;)
 
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To phrase it slightly differently...

If you found yourself abruptly in the middle of Area 51, and there were REAL ALIENS there, would you go 'Sorry chaps, don't know how I got here, where's the door?'

No. No, you would not.
Best case, they assume it was an accident, and imprison you for seeing something you shouldn't while being somewhere you weren't supposed to be.
Worst case, they assume it was on purpose, and your still imprisoned, only this time with people asking sharp pointed questions while holding sharp, pointed objects.

I think her reaction was, as MP3.14 explained so succinctly, reasonable. She could get out, very likely without anyone knowing, and she tried that exact thing. Heck, she didn't even need to leave them alien tech documentation, that was just her being polite!
 
Also, she doesn't know just how precarious of a situation of SG 1-verse humanity is in. If she did, she quite possibly would have felt an obligation to leave more information or a way to contact her later, when she's in a situation where she could do something like initiate a data/tech exchange without the risk of ending up in a cell.
 
It felt like common sense. Things go wrong and you're not sure where you are? Find out. Hostile action resulted in your destination being changed without your consent or awareness? Assume hostile potentially present, protecting yourself while ascertaining your immediate situation.

In an area not actually hostile, but functionally so which so happens to posess a potential cause for your situation and/or resolution? Maintain stealth and determine a solution to safely evac. Don't have resources necessary for short term survival in potentially hostile territory, quietly acquire the bare minimum to avoid drawing notice.

Finally, given you caused problems (unavoidably), and have any sense of fair play, reward your unwitting hosts for their unknowing assistance to help smooth as many ruffled feathers as possible. It's the neighborly thing to do, after all. ;)

Seems pretty much common sense across the board, save all the nonsensical elements that created most of the conflicts (attack against hardened military target out of the blue, super science spectacularly failing in two unlikely places at once, ending up in a hidden out of the way location in a highly fortified top secret installation with some of the world's greatest secrets within, many of those secrets being sufficiently advanced alien tech capable of being repurposed into a working solution/escape method). Not Taylor's fault at all, she's just a poor innocent young girl that takes humanities perception of the universe and puts it over her knee until it learns to behave like a proper responsible individual. ;)
 
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I have one nitpick:
They've got form for that sort of thing...
formS. Given all the shit Kinsey and the NID got up to, they probably have a specific form for detainment and exploitation of a minor female dimensionally displaced inventor.

And of course this is an omake and just for fun, sparked by a comment made by a reader. So you don't have to take it seriously if you don't want to ;)
I'm, again, in awe of your calm and levelheadedness. Kudos.
 
Also, she doesn't know just how precarious of a situation of SG 1-verse humanity is in. If she did, she quite possibly would have felt an obligation to leave more information or a way to contact her later, when she's in a situation where she could do something like initiate a data/tech exchange without the risk of ending up in a cell.
Sounds like a good idea for a sequel.

They need all the help they can get, after all, and hers is a LOT of help.
 
I'm not going to get into yet another massive argument about how I'm doing it wrong, but I'll just leave a few points here...

The situation is, from Taylor's point of view:

  1. She and her family and friends came under fire from an unknown enemy and legged it using their evacuation plan. In her case, this went wrong.
  2. When she worked out that it had gone wrong, she initially and fairly reasonably assumed that it had only gone a little wrong and she was in roughly the right place but in the wrong exact location.
  3. Based on that, she headed toward where she thought she should have ended up rather than away.
  4. It would also have been much trickier to exit the vent system on the surface, for reasons of distance, intervening machinery, and probably security. And as in the point above, at that point she had no reason to really believe her actions weren't correct.
  5. By the time she realized that she was a lot further away from home than she'd expected, she was also fully aware she was in an unknown and almost certainly top secret military base.
  6. Unknown people popping up in top secret military bases tend to upset the military running those bases. She's not stupid, she knows that full well.
  7. As a result of this, simply dropping out of a vent and saying brightly "Hi, there, I'm Taylor and I'm in the wrong world! Can I borrow your Stargate?" is exceptionally unlikely to work out well for her or anyone else. Again, she's easily able to work this out without trying it ;)
  8. Getting captured unwillingly by this unknown military is even less likely to work out well. In ways that range from being shot on sight to put in jail forever. So that's also a thing to avoid.
  9. While the SG people are in reality somewhat more reasonable than she might fear, she doesn't know that and can't take the chance. And even if General Hammond was willing to help, he'd be obliged to report it upstairs and those people would definitely immediately decide that she and all her toys were now their property. They've got form for that sort of thing...
  10. There's enough stuff lying around she can borrow to build a way home, especially once she's studied the situation.
  11. There's a place that will give enough privacy for long enough (nearly) to do this unobserved. Another hour or so and she'd have been gone by the time they walked through the door.
  12. Conveniently there's also equipment around the place that makes her own security easier to arrange. But if that hadn't been present she'd have done something else.
  13. She 'paid' for the inconvenience of temporarily misplacing alien technology that the SG people did, after all, either simply stumble across or flat out steal by fixing some of it, making notes on much of the rest, and leaving a document behind on purpose that would jump them decades ahead in one step. It's a fair deal even if not according to normal military protocol. Sam would vehemently agree...
  14. By the time they found her, she'd been working for about 20 hours straight without sleep, was very worried about her dad and friends, was scared about what might happen if she didn't get back, and was basically a little punch-drunk from exhaustion and stress. As a result she was slightly more talkative than normal :)

So, given the above, what else was she reasonably expected to do? Throwing herself on the mercy of people who would almost certainly take her appearing out of nowhere inside an obviously very secret place was about the last thing she'd try. Escaping entirely from the base was probably possible, but by the time she was sure that she might have to, it would have been much more difficult and even if she succeeded would put most of the stuff she required for a quick exit out of reach. Again, not something to do other than a last resort.

She did the best she could with what she had and what she knew of the situation. I can't really see what other choices she had.

And of course this is an omake and just for fun, sparked by a comment made by a reader. So you don't have to take it seriously if you don't want to ;)
I tend to just pop in when new chapters are released, but the word count caught my attention. Not sure how anyone could complain about any facet of the writing of this story as, so far, it is GOLD. love the story, love the pacing, even the interlude was great.
I LOVE STARGATE!
Looking forward to more. Down with the haters, rah rah keep up the good work!
 
So, given the above, what else was she reasonably expected to do? Throwing herself on the mercy of people who would almost certainly take her appearing out of nowhere inside an obviously very secret place was about the last thing she'd try. Escaping entirely from the base was probably possible, but by the time she was sure that she might have to, it would have been much more difficult and even if she succeeded would put most of the stuff she required for a quick exit out of reach. Again, not something to do other than a last resort.
Plus, honestly, if she had proved what she was capable of, it's entirely believable she would have been detained indefinitely. The last time the Tau'ri had random hypertech refugees under their control were... the Tollan, whom the NID attempted to turn into intellectual forced labour. She would have, at best, taken weeks to get them to let her find a way home, and that would have given time for her presence to tickle the tastebuds of the various more unethical elements of the government, who would have proceeded to make sure she couldn't leave at all, if they could find any way to prevent it. And honest answer is from the Tau'ri's perspective, that would potentially have been the right thing - she would materially have improved the survival odds of their entire planet. Overriding one persons freedom to save a planet is not something that is that difficult to make a moral case for. Now, condemning another planet to save their own is slightly different, but that's a far more abstract question, and people have any number of ways to talk themselves around that point. If nothing else, they simply promise themselves that, when they're able, they let her return and help her world... a day that they will always find a reason to push back if they can induce her to keep laying golden eggs.
 
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