FaerieKnight79
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You're thinking of her initial test of the subspace reciever. A test that shook the whole house, and had Taylor uttering the phrase "harmonic feedback loop."
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You're thinking of her initial test of the subspace reciever. A test that shook the whole house, and had Taylor uttering the phrase "harmonic feedback loop."
More like DARPA is run by Warehouse 13… as for the DWU and the Ark; probably at least L33t's disabled duplicate wide-area holoprojector from that time they tried to play Raiders (Atari 2600 version) through the Docks…
NHO
Dumb is a state of existence
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There was another one, with stealth generator.
But if it's a failure mode, why can't you inflict it intentionally?
kelgar04
Knight Watcher
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Hmm a thought occurs and I don't know if this is true but if we disable natural triggers shard could it mass them up psychologically? I mean the trigger happens on the worst day of their lives could disabling a shard link cause the to have a psychotic break or a mental breakdown when it suddenly goes offline since I think shards help keep their hosts somewhat functional.
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Harmonic resonance is unhealthy for the subspace generator. Or for bridges.
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Well, in the second to last chapter Alexandria said to Mister foot that Doormaker didn't want to open portals directly in BB, so we could extrapolate that the other half of the "open a portal anywhere" Clairvowhatever wouldn't want either.
Not confirmed,in any case, that's for sure.
I agree with the rest, but IIRC ( and my memory sucks ) they usually did not protect the S9, they did occasionally help some of the members because they were sure one of them was necessary for the Gold Morning. Point in case, they literally sacrificed poor Battery to save Bonesaw and Shatterbird because they knew one of those two was important. And it was important, as Bonesaw was one of the "let's turn Taylor into a bomb" plan.
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I feel lost on the science side of the thread to be honest, but it's fine because I understand enough of what's happening.
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- Germany
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That's understanding by (from?) context. What humans are better at (yet) than machines.
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Legend is a decent bloke, but that's by Earth Bet standards which are warped at best compared to a saner world
And he didn't quite pick up on some of the subtext as he was thinking more about his own mission. It's likely it will dawn on him later...Worm in general suffers from a complete lack of ability to understand numbers. Or have basic research done. The end result is that you get a lot of things like this where there's obviously no possible way even with superpowers some things could work the way they're alleged to, but the story relies on them doing so, which produces a certain level of cognitive dissonance
A lot of people really don't comprehend either very large or very small numbers in relation to normal life. When you do have something of a clue in that respect you start picking up on the logical inconsistencies, but it can be hard persuading the true fans that things they like simply can't actually work even in the context of the story...
Such is life.
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I've never really understood why Shatterbird, but according to the note in Interlude 12.5 it wasn't Bonesaw they felt would be useful. Just goes to prove what they knew.
gatewaewanderer
Wandering Fool
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- East Coast, USA
Legend is a decent bloke, but that's by Earth Bet standards which are warped at best compared to a saner world
Legend could assign a few people to help out, yes. But 2 problems - that would take them away from their present duties, and there's no guarantee that there's anyone from an area with a stable enough situation that they can be spared to help with Brockton Bay, considering the overall state of Earth Bet and the USA in particular.
The second problem is the one that, arguably, would give Legend more problems even if the first is a more sensible problem and the one I'd like to believe would stop Legend from sending help to Brockton Bay. Cauldron, in particular Alexandria. They might not be willing to tell him why they want Brockton Bay left alone, but presumably they are keeping him from sending anyone in to help. Or else the publicly known situation in Brockton Bay should have meant someone would have been sent a long time ago, for appearances sake if nothing else.
Really, the canon excuse Cauldron and in particular Alexandria has, that Brockton Bay is serving as an experiment to help Cauldron determine how the world will function, or even if it can with Parahumans and normals involved together, post-Scion or whatever the exact details of it were, sounds half-decent... on paper, sans details, but once you put all those details in, including the human lives in danger, it sounds a lot less reasonable. It's really just a flimsy excuse for canon to happen as-is.
Because she's the only Mass -Kinetic besides Leviathan. Makes her a very powerful, and dangerous cape, considering how common silica is.
NHO
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It was in context of popping parahuman's heads.
Elaborating: Frequency of the... shard-parahuman connection is different, almost guaranteed, from the frequency of generator.
If you tune generator to correct frequency, it would not pop, but it will transfer energy to parahuman's brain. Most likely, parahuman you chose, and not generic "all parahumans in neighborhood"
Of course, it's not hard to go from that to ending Endbringers with a device any grad student can make.
"Well, sure. Why do you think the Empire 88 leaves the DWU alone? They've seen the movie, they know how that turns out for Nazis."
Which, if true, absolutely supports and justifies my anger on Piggot's behalf, because it means she, and all the citizens of BB, are deliberately and intentionally being not just hung out tomdry but are being offered up as sacrifices.
At the same time as Legend, a peer of Emily's own boss, is very strongly hinting at Emily to go commit actual never-see-the-sky-again-forever-when-you-get-caught espionage against her own government.
While very neatly doin so in a way as to minimize any legal culpability he has - just as Alexandrea did by sending Legend once her Costa-Brown excuses/rationalizations ran out.
I'm just happy Piggot's learned enough politics and enough caution about orders from above to pick up on the subtext and the possible, because 'aren't you curious about Gravtec' isn't that much different than 'aren't you curious about Nilbog'.
All the S class threats the authorities are happy to leave be... and they want Emilyn- not themselves - to poke Gravtec-the-national-security-nightmare.
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This I simply don't get and never have despite multiple people trying to explain it. I have though had a physics student tell me that one of the first things they get told is that if infinity or a singularity shows up in your equations you've done something wrong only to hear a few lessons later about the multiple infinities and singularities in modern physics, including general and special relativity.
It is apparently one of the signs that the theories are incomplete, another sign being that they break down and produce gobbledygook at various scales and extremes. After that they then try to use these theories, knowing that they break down at extremes, to explain what would happen to things outside the scope of the theory, ie ftl travel and communications.
Our modern theories explaining the universe work fine so long as you use them within their scope and don't try to apply them for things where they break down. So General Relativity for large space stuff, quantum theory for the minuscule stuff and a number of other theories that work well for their small piece of the whole. You dont use GR to calculate magnetic resonance and you don't use quantum field theory to describe the motion of galaxies because those things are outside the scope of the theories.
Traveling or communicating faster than light is not within the scope of any theory we have today. If we don't find another theory or phenomenon we can use to break into that scope those things remain in the realm of the impossible. But if FTL is a thing that is possible than I imagine that we will find that all the theories we have today might be worse than useless for describing it unless modified quite heavily.
TL;DR Using todays (somewhat incomplete) theories to describe FTL travel or communication is like trying to describe the physics of stellar fusion using Empedocles four elements, worse than useless because it might give the appearance of providing an answer and giving false confidence in that answer.
That's sort of my thought on things as well: that any method of actually achieving FTL travel/communication would bypass the issues we see when looking at it from a sublight perspective. things get really screwy as you approach C, so there's no way to say for certain how things behave beyond it.
back on topic with the story, i continue to enjoy and be amused by your writing mp-pi.
coming soon: Gravtech Handheld Portal Device. bonus points if it's portals are lined in blue and orange.
back on topic with the story, i continue to enjoy and be amused by your writing mp-pi.
coming soon: Gravtech Handheld Portal Device. bonus points if it's portals are lined in blue and orange.
Lycanthromancer
The Arcane Fuzz
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- USA
They have an entire planet full of countries collapsing because of that exact thing, and Cauldron can't be arsed to look outside the North American borders for the very answer to the question they're asking. Because the CUI and Africa are both very big, glowing, radioactively neon signs pointing to what happens when parahumans run things.
IE, a bunch of horrifically traumatized, violent, self-entitled sociopaths with superpowers are suddenly in charge? That's not a hard question to answer, even in an isolationist fishbowl.
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Nighzmarquls
The Endless Hunger
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I just realized that earth bet and probably all earths in worm are likely too noisy for anyone to build a gravity wave detector.
And I suspect physicists are very confused/ sad about that on every earth.
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This. So much this. "Wildbow cannot into math."
Nighzmarquls
The Endless Hunger
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Legend is a decent bloke, but that's by Earth Bet standards which are warped at best compared to a saner world
Worm in general suffers from a complete lack of ability to understand numbers. Or have basic research done. The end result is that you get a lot of things like this where there's obviously no possible way even with superpowers some things could work the way they're alleged to, but the story relies on them doing so, which produces a certain level of cognitive dissonance
A lot of people really don't comprehend either very large or very small numbers in relation to normal life. When you do have something of a clue in that respect you start picking up on the logical inconsistencies, but it can be hard persuading the true fans that things they like simply can't actually work even in the context of the story...
Such is life.
As a huge fan of logistics, infrastructure and ecology I am totally there with you.
Wildbow also tends to fall flat for me on understanding what gangs even are. And everytime drugs comes up it is pretty cringey. Like reading those god awful DARE program things. Some of that can prolly be attributed to unreliable narrator but this I think is where a lot of the fanon shines as better then canon. (and also why there are so many "x gang/gang leader is actually pretty cool" fics)
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Jordisk
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The Clairvoyant can, as far as they know, see every location on every Earth that the entities both have access to and have not blocked Parahumans from accessing, hear anything going on at those locations, and share that view with anyone that he is currently touching. However, he lacks the ability to express what he sees/hears, and is basically limited to being the "eyes" while the Doormaker is the "processor" and the "door". Even should another person come in contact with The Clairvoyant, they will be unable to express the information they learn while connected, and, when disconnected, will suffer severe backlash including a short coma and memory loss...memories such as what, specifically, the saw.
The PTV does not GIVE an answer. Contessa cannot ask "who made this", and get a response. She has to ask "Path to knowing who made this", and then, USING PRECOG, the PTV gives instructions one step at a time (and the number of steps required) to know that information. She doesn't use this option most of the time, because for a lot of paths it ends up being "Kidnap this family, extort this relative for information", perhaps with "kill the kid to show you are serious" included. That is why they have put Alexandria as the Chief Director, and have Number Man dealing with basically all the money: So they have options other than someone getting Contessaed.
The basis for Precog does, of course, get updated from all the intelligence-gathering shards, from shards like Tattletale's that process information as their main purpose, to shards with secondary sensory powers like Gallant's emotion sense. But that basis gets cropped for all data related to the Entities and the Endbringers, then gets pushed out to the precog shards who put together a whole picture, which then gets cropped AGAIN for everything related to blind-spots, and then the precog shards give information to their hosts in specific, and often hard-to-understand, ways.
As to the "Cauldron has five people" thing, the only "sensible" way to fix it is to accept that those are the five HEADS of Cauldron. Like, Rebecca's secretary is in-the-know about the double-life and the fact that Rebecca literally goes away, as is Rebecca's body-double (which may actually be her secretary as well) that appears when Alexandria needs to be in a video call with the Chief Director, or vice versa. There are likely a lot of people working for the Number Man that help manage the economies of the worlds, just like there are probably multiple people that have been tapped to work for Contessa.
Not actually a bad thing, all things considered. If such a device can be designed to powderize everything around it before or in the process of slagging itself, then you just built a weapon that cant be reverse engineered from its own wreckage. Bonus points if its a software thing, because then you can just launch the reference frame generators in a protective shell without needing to bother with warheads either. Which means that every jet fighter just became capable of pulling off a Macross Missile Massacre without needing to pack the aircraft with explosives due to all of that saved space.
I think they were hoping that a broken or 2nd triggered Shatterbird could fuck with shards since those are also crystalline in nature.
kelgar04
Knight Watcher
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Kind of like how GDI in C&C 3 clears Tib using sonic technolgy? Use shatter bird to eliminate and clean up the shards I mean.
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DoctorNobody
The Doctor is In(sane).
"Hey, Dad! What's in this box?"
"Oh, don't touch that one kiddo. We only pop that open when the Nazis are giving us trouble."
"Really?"
"Yep." Danny pointed to the box. "Only had to do it once. I think Kaiser got the message when Allfather got his face melted off."
Dragon: "Don't worry Vista, tests are almost over. After that, you can have pie."