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Sandy River DL said:
It would be especially amusing if said discovery comes from them finding a cozy rustic retreat on an uninhabited Earth belonging to Taylor.
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Or better yet, because she mentions the discovery to her friends at DARPA, and they get really curious. At which point Taylor makes a device, spins up a portal, and it leads to Rebecca Costa-Brown's office since that's where both the portals she got data from lead to. Even more alarming if said office is in Cauldron's base. Especially if this occurs during a Cauldron meeting which Legend wasn't invited to, and Numbers Man gets recognized from his time in the S9.
 
macdjord said:
Because, of course, Contessa is Cauldron's only information-gathering option. It's not like they have a Cape who can observe every location on Earth at will.
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Sure, but that means someone in their small and busy circle has to take the time to watch with Clairvoyant and figure out what it is they're seeing. I'm sure Numbers Man would be interested in the math for its own sake, but (from their perspective) is his time really better spent investigating some unknown cape, however revolutionary their (indirectly combat related at best) technology is, or working on the existing schemes to save all life on every Earth?
 
DestinyPlayer said:
Last I checked, they were as uncommunicative as Doormaker, only a little bit more conscious, but still in what's effectively a coma due to sheer information overload.
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Yup, there's some fics where they're coherent, but normally they're totally dissociated. Labyrinth is the same way on her bad days.

That said, I think Taylor's going to be working on a wide-area portal jammer first after she idly mentions the new [DATA] she's getting to one of the government minders.

"What're you working on NOW?"
"You remember when Uber and Leet did that video with the gun that made the orange and blue holes?"
"The Portal one?"
"That's it. Well, I got to thinking about it the other night and I'm pretty sure I know how it works. Sort of. It seems really dangerous though."
"Like how dangerous?"
"Gamma radiation flux, accidental singularites, portal cuts. Nasty stuff. Don't worry, I don't plan on messing with it right now. But... I realized that somebody might use it to teleport in here. Then I realized that Oni Lee COULD maybe teleport in here. So I'm making this."
"And that is?"
"Broad spectrum distortion jammer. Basically it sends out a regular, very weak gravitational pulse that should keep any form of teleportation or spacial anomalies from working around it."
"What kind of range does it have?"
"Right now it's only set to cover inside the DWU. I can scale it up to cover the whole city if I wanted to, but if Vista's power works the way I think it does, it probably shut her down too, which I don't want. She's a hero after all."

(Probably would affect Sophia as well)
 
All we need now is some action in the form of The Merchants getting higher than a space shuttle and deciding that GravTech would be a great place to hit up especially as the Dock Workers have been pushing them out of the docks, only for the Merchants to learns what it means to have the likes of DARPA and their friends in the opposition's corner.
 
YuffieK said:
"What kind of range does it have?"
"Right now it's only set to cover inside the DWU. I can scale it up to cover the whole city if I wanted to, but if Vista's power works the way I think it does, it probably shut her down too, which I don't want. She's a hero after all."
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If the next questions didn't then become "How fast can you make them, and how much?" then obviously DARPA would be sleeping on the job.
 
FaerieKnight79 said:
If the next questions didn't then become "How fast can you make them, and how much?" then obviously DARPA would be sleeping on the job.
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"It's mostly just a software patch on a standard reference frame generator. A couple of extra circuit boards to modulate the gravity pulses. Here's the extra blueprints."

Note, the same technology could be used to make Tesla's Earthquake Machine.
 
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cryptoam said:
My TLDR is here:

Precogs are fucked by the continual input of data from outside and phenomena that they (Entities) do not understand fully.
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It doesn't sound like either of those would apply to "precogging" the present like by asking PtV the name of the person creating the technology. You don't need any outside data to do that, just existing on Earth data, and you don't need to understand the phenomena to know the name of the person who typed it out.
 
Either this is going to fly completely under the Shard's radar, or the Simurgh is going to be making a visit soon.
Maybe Leviathan.
And then... KKV to the face? Even with their bullshit speeds, a .8c baseball-sized gravtek shotput would put a dent in the endbringer.
 
arromdee said:
It doesn't sound like either of those would apply to "precogging" the present like by asking PtV the name of the person creating the technology. You don't need any outside data to do that, just existing on Earth data, and you don't need to understand the phenomena to know the name of the person who typed it out.
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It does if the following are true:
  • PTV and other precog shards base their simulations on data the Entities had previously precogged that didn't include super genius inventors and alien transmissions jumpstarting fields of science the Entities have never encountered before, and instinctively barely understand a narrow fringe of
  • PTV and other precog shards are blocked from ever considering giving information on subspace to the host species, even in a roundabout way, because that can lead back to the existance of the Entities
  • PTV and other precog shards simulate things based on the understanding of the multiverse The Thinker and The Warrior had before getting ganked
Remember that the simulation that was used to assign shards didn't involve super genius level intelects like Taylor existing in the host species (probably because it's not something the Entities had ever encountered before). The simulation showed that Danny would fail to trigger, his daughter would enter an environment that made her a better candidate, and she would trigger after being shoved into a enclosed space filled with bio-hazardous materials. It may or may not have actually guessed what Taylor's power would be. What the simulation didn't account for was the following chain of events:
  1. Taylor being a super genius
  2. Watching Taylor's antics pulling Danny Hebert out of his depression
  3. Taylor inventing a subspace receiver
  4. Taylor watching an alien educational program that inspires her to invent entirely new fields of SCIENCE
  5. Taylor being so busy with her SCIENCE that she doesn't get bullied by Sophia and Emma
  6. Taylor not going to Winslow because she's instead attending Arcadia on the government's dime after she shares her discoveries with a collage professor and DARPA.
Or in other words, the entire model the Entities were using to simulate for precog shards is inherently broken because it didn't account for super geniuses.

EDIT: It's entirely possible that Queen Administrator is still focusing on Danny Hebert and waiting for him to trigger since the expected crisis point he was suppose to hit and fail to trigger during hasn't actually happened
 
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thank you legend for giving taylor more knowledge for more technology *cackles* I really can't wait to see the members of cauldron's faces once the US armed forces reveals their shiny new gravtec made vehicles and weapons maybe via testing them out against a end bringer and either seriously hurting it or cracking it's core in half and thus killing a end bringer *cackles more* or and the possible that taylor from learning from the doorman portals maybe crating a form of FTL XD
 
FaerieKnight79 said:
EDIT: It's entirely possible that Queen Administrator is still focusing on Danny Hebert and waiting for him to trigger since the expected crisis point he was suppose to hit and fail to trigger during hasn't actually happened
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I feel like QA would have abandoned Danny for Taylor as soon as it detected the subspace signal in order to get a front row seat to her delicious [DATA].
 
But the whole reason for switching to Taylor was the fact the teen was in a conflict filled environment that would push her towards a Trigger Event, and Danny had already failed his Event. So QA might still be watching the father, waiting for a chance to shine.
 
FaerieKnight79 said:
But the whole reason for switching to Taylor was the fact the teen was in a conflict filled environment that would push her towards a Trigger Event, and Danny had already failed his Event. So QA might still be watching the father, waiting for a chance to shine.
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As I said before, that was before Taylor did something QA has never seen before. I imagine that QA would switch hosts specifically to get more direct access to the new data even if she didnt see a trigger event happening anytime soon.
 
Not likely. QA could be thinking about staying with Danny (could still trigger). By the time that QA switches(if she does), her attempt to connect to Taylor would likely fail due to subspace jamming.
 
So, any bets on how fucked Costa-Brown is going to be?
Because I honestly can't see her backing down from this, even when she's been told, repeatedly, that these technological advances are not the work of one or more Parahumans.
 
Laranor said:
So, any bets on how fucked Costa-Brown is going to be?
Because I honestly can't see her backing down from this, even when she's been told, repeatedly, that these technological advances are not the work of one or more Parahumans.
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Suggesting that a parahuman might be capable of making good decisions?

Hello, Laranor, you must be new here.
 
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FaerieKnight79 said:
Or better yet, because she mentions the discovery to her friends at DARPA, and they get really curious. At which point Taylor makes a device, spins up a portal, and it leads to Rebecca Costa-Brown's office since that's where both the portals she got data from lead to. Even more alarming if said office is in Cauldron's base. Especially if this occurs during a Cauldron meeting which Legend wasn't invited to, and Numbers Man gets recognized from his time in the S9.
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Let's hope not, because unless she gets a really powerful gravshield already set up the most likely outcome of the discovery is Eidolon vaporizing BB to hide the evidence. Cauldron might be considered a bunch of incompetents, but is a bunch of incompetents not even slighty afraid of using the nuclear option when available.
 
I doubt Eidolon has the power needed to do that anymore. By this point he's drained his shard so badly that he's lost access to all his strongest abilities. Besides which, nuking BB when there's an open portal leading to the room you are sitting in? That's more suicidal then Cauldron usually are.

EDIT: Besides which, this is a genie that can't be stuffed back in the bottle. Even if you destroy Gravtech and kill everyone currently in the Bay, the SCIENCE is already out there. It's just a matter of time before someone else develops the same tech. What will they do then, nuke every city containing a university with a physics department and every military research facility in America? Sure, great idea! Protect their secrets by wiping out the very parahumans "needed" to kill Zion and pissing off everyone left alive.

Remember, most parahumans are no more durable then a regular human. And Cauldron is well aware of that fact. It's why one of Contessa's tasks has been to prevent anyone from successfully sniping a parahuman with a rifle. Start attacking the US military and destroying cities left, right, and center though... And you can damn well be sure the US Armed Forces are going to start shooting.
 
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First the obligatory reference

Second a great chapter!

But yeah things look to be interesting the meeting between Piggot and legend went about as expected with legend getting enlightened into the situation in the Bay as well as repeating what Cauldron already knows. It will be frustrating for Costa Brown given she is running out Leavers to pull well officially anyways.

The conversation between dragon and Armsmaster was interesting as well shows insight that thinkers maybe hacks but they are far from stupid. They also seem to be speculating about the entities in very vague terms which is interesting.

Also dragon being a Canadian I wonder what her relationship is like with the Canadian PM and the Governor General as well as the queen?

macdjord said:
Because, of course, Contessa is Cauldron's only information-gathering option. It's not like they have a Cape who can observe every location on Earth at will
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Would make sense I'm not really surprised they depend solely on her. Damn she is probably one of the most overworked capes out there given how many balls Cauldron keeps in the air. Though it does raise the question why the hell don't they have any other human or parahuman assets? They have a major single point of failure if they loose countessa then all tyen they are fucked.
 
kelgar04 said:
First the obligatory reference

Second a great chapter!

But yeah things look to be interesting the meeting between Piggot and legend went about as expected with legend getting enlightened into the situation in the Bay as well as repeating what Cauldron already knows. It will be frustrating for Costa Brown given she is running out Leavers to pull well officially anyways.

The conversation between dragon and Armsmaster was interesting as well shows insight that thinkers maybe hacks but they are far from stupid. They also seem to be speculating about the entities in very vague terms which is interesting.

Also dragon being a Canadian I wonder what her relationship is like with the Canadian PM and the Governor General as well as the queen?


Would make sense I'm not really surprised they depend solely on her. Damn she is probably one of the most overworked capes out there given how many balls Cauldron keeps in the air. Though it does raise the question why the hell don't they have any other human or parahuman assets? They have a major single point of failure if they loose countessa then all tyen they are fucked.
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But they do! They also have Alexandria, Eidolon, Legend (but not really since they keep him out of the loop), Numbers Man, and... uhm... Doctor Mother? Other then that they have the 2 non-responsive parahumans they use as transportation and Custodian, who they use as a disembodied janitor. Oh, and all the experiment victims considered too unstable to mind wipe and dump on Earth Bet. But they aren't considered members of cauldron, so much as failed experiments that need to be kept locked up until they get thrown at Zion in the inevitable battle.
 
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