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On the other hand, if she'd mentionend that she could do such a thing, she'd be asked for a sample device and would get data at most a week later ...
Distance Learning for fun and profit...
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There are ways to use radar to look through buildings and into the ground. If Taylor becomes valuable enough that the US government starts thinking she is indispensable they might actually start using some serious resources to map out any sort of unknown in the region she lives in so that nothing unexpected suddenly appears.
Local airstrip getting an upgraded radar system for "air traffic control", that coincidentally can track and target a couple of hundred tracks simultaneously and paint them for the upgraded "ac-units" mounted on every roof in town.
Every road into town suddenly having "weigh stations" set up and any way past these find themselves with these round metal plates embedded in the ground (self raising vehicle barriers).
We must also not forget that many local small businesses have been bought out by lots of fresh faced young men with a few grouchy older leader types who all seem to have very short and tight hairstyles. Or the many, many new offices being rented out to people in suits that don't actually seem to be making or selling anything but seem busy all the time anyway.
Coil may have a power that let's him do two things at once but the US government is a government. It can do a lot more than two things at once and when it focuses on anything with enough attention to ensure an outcome it gets really hard to do anything shady. Governments, after all, only have to play by the rules when they think they might get yelled at for breaking them, ain't nobody that's going to mourn a two bit bond villain getting "disappeared" enough to make noise.
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FaerieKnight79
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I'm betting his power is on the blink if it's actually simulating the split timelines.
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- Livin' in the Land of the LOST! *roar*
Doesn't closed captioning work something like that - a monochrome bitmap image sent with every frame or some such? Is she missing closed captioning in the recordings? Seems I remember someone using that to put MST3K in the bottom of videos...
And I've always had a problem with that particular thought-experiment. I can fairly easily determine (at least in principle) the difference between a gravity field and thrust. Thrust is linear, gravity radiates from a body in a more or less spherical manner.
Two pendulums. Are they parallel, save for the very minor effects of mutual gravitation to each other? Thrust. Are they very slightly angled, discounting the mutual attraction? Gravity field - the center of mass of the gravitating body is at the intersection of the two pendulum's lines, assuming they were extended.
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- Beyond the Unknowable Veil
What if the difference is too small to measure?
In the gravity field, they would be angled towards eachother at the bottom. \/
If they're slightly angled away from eachother at the bottom /\ , you're encountering centrifugal acceleration, and the convergence point is now the center of rotation.
Then you're not using a long enough pair of pendulums.
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- Omniverse #1345
Or the effect is too insignificant.
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- Beyond the Unknowable Veil
"Hmm. I'm in a box, thirty meters long, twelve wide and ten tall. No windows. Gravity is about 0.1 G THAT way, and I have two pendulums. Am I on another planet or in an accelerating spacecraft?"
David DeLaney
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- North of Knoxville, indoors, seated comfortably
Locally, you can't. That means you're looking right where YOU are, not over a distance wth long pendulums covering more distance in a different direction. If you're dropping a ball to watch its trajectory, you drop it right where you are, not in a variety of spots over a ballroom. Etc.
(See the "modern usage" section of Equivalence principle for details on this and why. Basically, locality means you're limited to using derivatives of the acceleration/gravity field of only a couple of orders, not the complete set you'd need to see what the field over THERE is like given its value and all its derivatives _here_.)
Dave. they're itching to test the weak equivalence principle with antimatter atoms, just in case
Your available space not being large enough to fit a pendulum long enough for the test doesn't invalidate the fact that your pendulum isn't long enough to do the test. Either that, or you need more sensitive measuring equipment. Either way, you'll get no helpful answers from me.
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- Omniverse #1345
While true, I believe the point is no real gravitational field is uniform, so there is a slight give-away as to if it is a gravitational field or acceleration. It's one of the "assume a spherical cow" problems.
You did not get dog-piled for suggesting non-violent alternatives. You got dog-piled for suggesting alternatives that would not work and then acting like anyone who disagreed with you could only possibly be doing it because they were bloodthirsty or racist.
It's encoded text, not a bitmapped image.
Only if you assume the gravitational field is from a spherical mass. Imagine taking a bunch of neutronium and shaping it into a disk 1cm thick and 1km in diameter. Now imagine walking around on the surface of this plate. No matter where you go, unless you get right up near the edge, the gravity will be seem to be equally strong and point straight down. While the gravity is not perfectly uniform, the deviation is a function of the ratio of how far you travel from the center of the disk vs. the diameter of the disk itself, so no matter how sensitive your instruments are, a large enough disk will produce a field indistinguishable from acceleration.
So it is all my fault for forgetting that one cannot solve any problem through non-violent means, that sometimes you just have to apply high speed lead to some problems. Am I understanding your point in the proper manner?
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- Beyond the Unknowable Veil
No, it's for insisting beyond the point of ridiculousness that because we don't think THIS PARTICULAR PROBLEM can't be solved without either violence or truly credible threat of violence that we're horrible bloodthirsty...forum-goers.
No, the particular solution you presented in this case would not work. If you had presented a different non-violent solution, one that actually was workable, then most people would have been happy to consider it. No one was complaining about your 'non-violent solution' because it wasn't violent; they were complaining that it wasn't a solution.
The part of this that is your fault is acting like the people who disagreed with you were attacking your pacifism, when in fact they were attacking your solution. This argument has gone like so:
Bobot-Man: They should just invite Lung to tea and then tell him to leave Taylor alone or else!
Everybody else: No, that wouldn't work. Lung wouldn't be willing to listen and even if he did he'd pick the 'or else' instead of backing down.
Bobot-Man: What, so non-violence is bad now? The Nazi get's a peaceful warning but the Asian guy gets a bullet; you must be racist! MAYBE WE SHOULD JUST NUKE THE WHOLE CITY; IS THAT VIOLENT ENOUGH FOR YOU?
Everybody else: No, that wouldn't work. Lung wouldn't be willing to listen and even if he did he'd pick the 'or else' instead of backing down.
Bobot-Man: What, so non-violence is bad now? The Nazi get's a peaceful warning but the Asian guy gets a bullet; you must be racist! MAYBE WE SHOULD JUST NUKE THE WHOLE CITY; IS THAT VIOLENT ENOUGH FOR YOU?
If I may propose a non-violent solution?
The discussion of how the government might handle Lung, how that handling might differ from their handling of Kaiser, the appropriate methods for defeating Lung without parahuman powers, and discussion of the argument about the preceding and Bobot-Man's role in them appear to have run their course and exhausted novel contributions. I propose that such discussions be tabled until such a time as Lung makes an actual appearance in the story.
The discussion of how the government might handle Lung, how that handling might differ from their handling of Kaiser, the appropriate methods for defeating Lung without parahuman powers, and discussion of the argument about the preceding and Bobot-Man's role in them appear to have run their course and exhausted novel contributions. I propose that such discussions be tabled until such a time as Lung makes an actual appearance in the story.
Lung: *examines the thread.* "I would prefer it if I just got left in my chair with the heat and massage. I have no use for gravity control..."
*considers it.*
"Unless it can make my chair more comfortable, then I would buy a unit, so I can get a service plan."
*considers it.*
"Unless it can make my chair more comfortable, then I would buy a unit, so I can get a service plan."
"We can also build an MRI in so it can see exactly where you are most tense and adjust the massage function to match. Interested?"
"That depends, what happens if i sit down while still having metallic scales? I seem to recall MRIs and metal not being a good combination."
Pethrai Darkos
Murder Ensued
"That's because the old things had such poor resolution they had to oversaturate the environment to get anything done. With our new patented MRI machines you'd need to have your entire skeleton coated in a ferrous material before experiencing even minor discomfort. We even gave that Logan fellow a full refund when he complained."
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- Minesota, USA
So, I know this is way late (almost 20 pages late...), but I'd guess that they wouldn't have a major issue with it, if only because that's new stuff for future Tinker Shards.
FaerieKnight79
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If Zion noticed what Taylor is doing, it very well could be problematic. You know, due to taylor being able to detect the actual connection shards generate. Which in turn means possibly tracing the connection back to the shard it's self. The interludes describing the origin of Entities specifically mentions that when a host species manages to fend off them in the past, they pulled a final F you by destroying the world (to propel them elsewhere).