Attempting to Subvert the Plan: Dominion Edition
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[X] Plan TRUST in Us
Plan Trust Us isn't about doing things for people. It's here to subvert the plan, not to do nice things.
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It does both, if you ask me!
not in research it doesn't.
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We've run out of options that directly help the common people in Research. The Super-Heavy Cargo Freighter helps the economy, which might ideally also help people in general by improving transportation and goods availability, but even that is to be honest conditional on access to things being hauled being equitably (or, let us not hope for a miracle like evenly, and even say 'with any degree of fairness') divided out.
The main areas to help other people are in things like Services, basically everything Reconstruction, and in several other areas. I'd take the honest criticism of someone going, "The legalization of Unions can help start a chain reaction potentially leading to hundreds of millions of lives improving over the next few years, each turn holding off on doing it is a travesty" or even someone going, "You should finish Supply Bunkers 2 and be damned instead of slow-walking it with the goal of completing it within the next two quarters out of fear of Paranoia." I'd have reasons why I did neither, but that would be an honest way to evaluate Helping The People and the ways that TRUST Us did not do those actions which directly help many millions.
It's a little less impressive when it's literally differing Research priorities.
The main areas to help other people are in things like Services, basically everything Reconstruction, and in several other areas. I'd take the honest criticism of someone going, "The legalization of Unions can help start a chain reaction potentially leading to hundreds of millions of lives improving over the next few years, each turn holding off on doing it is a travesty" or even someone going, "You should finish Supply Bunkers 2 and be damned instead of slow-walking it with the goal of completing it within the next two quarters out of fear of Paranoia." I'd have reasons why I did neither, but that would be an honest way to evaluate Helping The People and the ways that TRUST Us did not do those actions which directly help many millions.
It's a little less impressive when it's literally differing Research priorities.
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[X] Plan TRUST in Us
Let's get our personal army up and running.
Let's get our personal army up and running.
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Not gonna lie, I don't think SIDE is particularly important to TRUST's performance. What matters is recruitment and basing infrastructure. We can churn out weapons for them later.
Because real talk, either we have several years to equip TRUST with whatever we want for a big war against whoever's willing to defend Mengsk, in which case there's no urgency...
...Or we're trying to speed-run this, in which case we're screwed anyway, because what'll matter is us laying the groundwork with Personal actions, far more than whether TRUST has shiny kit. Because the only way to pull off a speed-run that doesn't lead to a bad ending is to assassinate Mengsk as quickly as possible and replace him with someone else to sit in the Big Chair before the warm spot on the throne cools off. And that's going to rely far more heavily on whether we've made good allies than on whether we have the latest rockin' body armor for our paramilitary troopers.
The status quo is worse when it comes to commercial interstellar spacelift.
If there is only a little spacelift capacity and it is of limited efficiency, then with someone like Mengsk in charge, ALL that capacity will be reserved for the most 'critical' (read: important to the military-industrial-security complex) projects. Note the part where a labor battalion at Augustgrad, even when given a coupon for a vacation on another planet, has a three-year wait list to actually get transportation to that planet. I'm betting there's no shortage of cargo transportation to move giant gold-plated statues of Arcturus' daddy issues around the Dominion.
Even 'critical' spacelift demands are being shorted as-is. If we want any spacelift to go to things normal people actually want or need, we need massive expansions of capacity. The effect will not be indirect. It's like the effect of shipping food into a place under famine conditions; the effect of an increase in availability is disproportionate precisely because there is so very, very much deficiency.
Because real talk, either we have several years to equip TRUST with whatever we want for a big war against whoever's willing to defend Mengsk, in which case there's no urgency...
...Or we're trying to speed-run this, in which case we're screwed anyway, because what'll matter is us laying the groundwork with Personal actions, far more than whether TRUST has shiny kit. Because the only way to pull off a speed-run that doesn't lead to a bad ending is to assassinate Mengsk as quickly as possible and replace him with someone else to sit in the Big Chair before the warm spot on the throne cools off. And that's going to rely far more heavily on whether we've made good allies than on whether we have the latest rockin' body armor for our paramilitary troopers.
I'm not going to dispute the rest of what you said, but this paragraph misses something important:
The status quo is worse when it comes to commercial interstellar spacelift.
If there is only a little spacelift capacity and it is of limited efficiency, then with someone like Mengsk in charge, ALL that capacity will be reserved for the most 'critical' (read: important to the military-industrial-security complex) projects. Note the part where a labor battalion at Augustgrad, even when given a coupon for a vacation on another planet, has a three-year wait list to actually get transportation to that planet. I'm betting there's no shortage of cargo transportation to move giant gold-plated statues of Arcturus' daddy issues around the Dominion.
Even 'critical' spacelift demands are being shorted as-is. If we want any spacelift to go to things normal people actually want or need, we need massive expansions of capacity. The effect will not be indirect. It's like the effect of shipping food into a place under famine conditions; the effect of an increase in availability is disproportionate precisely because there is so very, very much deficiency.
To be honest I hope its this. I hope the game goes long enough that we get to take our time. The idea of the speed run isn't as thrilling to me as the long term build up. I enjoy the economic aspect of building up the Dominion worlds and society and culture and economy. Its much more fun then us going "so I know the Dominion is a shithole but at least we toppled Mengsk." I see that as a failure personally. (not of the quest, or its writing, but of personal achievement.)
Also yeah, us having space lift capability would be super useful. Especially civilian or non-military governmental (thus Treasury). Because that way its harder for a military order to stop movement between and resupply of worlds.
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Which is what we're doing by expanding the Angustia Shipyard. The Hercules is a custom design to fit our needs, but it's not absolutely required. We can still lead off with existing non-domestic superfreighters.
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The Hercules is going to make a pretty big difference, I suspect, or the design wouldn't exist because no one would bother.
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In fairness, I absolutely believe Mengsk would sign off on ginourmous boondoggles for prestige regardless of if their cost effective compared to current options.
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A bit late to the party but I absolutely have to say:
Everyone seems to have forgotten that there's one super being in the Galaxy with a grudge larger than Mengsk's ego: Kerrigan. We don't need to off him ourselves, just advertise his position to her and let the two of them sort things out.
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Yes, that's what the Iris-class airship is, for example.
If this was something stupid that Mengsk thought was a good idea, it'd probably be a -Paranoia option.
No, this is a good idea that Mengsk doesn't give a shit about, like the Vardona vespene wells or amenities for the Dylarian shipyards or the Protoss power conduit tech.
As opposed to a good idea that Mengsk doesn't like, such as "having SCVs" or "teaching people to read," or one of the very rare good ideas Mengsk approves of, such as "continuing to expand the Dominion Health Service."
(We should probably try to do Phase 2 of the DHS some time soon, while Mengsk still remembers that he wants that to get done and promised it. It's good for -Paranoia if we do it, but that may not last.)
Problem.
When Kerrigan comes gunning for Mengsk, she's going to bring about eleventy jillion Zerg with her, and she's going to want revenge on not only Arcturus himself, but the entire power structure that Arcturus has around him. Such as, for example, us.
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Dude she is in full kill everything that is not a bug mode...
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A 6-vote lead in a ~50-vote contest seems pretty insurmountable to me, and also I'm tired and want to go to bed, so I'm calling it a bit early so I can do rolls before I crash out.
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...fingers crossed. People plan, and the dice gods laugh.
Is that 5th roll the College Education roll?
Is that 5th roll the College Education roll?
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Well, most of those rolls actually went really well!
Though the much-coveted team-building exercise seems not to have gone through?
Though the much-coveted team-building exercise seems not to have gone through?
Sailor_Skarro
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No? We rolled 123+6*4=147>DC 100?
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It did. We rolled 128 (plus the bonuses) on it. A mediocre roll, but the DC was only 100, so eh!
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Oh! That's good then. I must have misremembered the difficulty.
We passed. That's good enough for me.
Also did we get anything for the college stuff, I can't tell.
Honestly it seems like most of our actions did really well.
So, with our various bonuses, I hope we passed the High-Efficiency Conduits. That way we can turn and research Hercules ship.
Also did we get anything for the college stuff, I can't tell.
Honestly it seems like most of our actions did really well.
So, with our various bonuses, I hope we passed the High-Efficiency Conduits. That way we can turn and research Hercules ship.