Can someone
please check Smith's keyboard and make sure the period key still works? Maybe dock his pay for every sentence more than twenty words long?
I literally think like this Simon and have to edit my thoughts into something other people are willing to read. Apparently Smith has no fucks to give on who reads his writing.
How about no. Monarchism is nonsense, bloodcraft inherently disrespects the value of human life and human rights.
I hardly think a liberal democracy or whatnot will be great, but it'll be better than any absolute monarchy, "enlightened" or not, and it's about what we have hope for--and about what might be in-character to actually want.
Democracy always lead to tyranny and terror
You have just to look up the Reign of Terror as a example of that the masses are offtern not smarten then a donky's ass
But lets not bring real world views to much into this yeah
Better to agree to disagree
Alright no. I'm not putting up with this. Let's talk about the French Revolution, it's many failures, how Liberal Democracy is just a failed state of Monarchy and why the EU is what it is. Because it matters, especially in this quest where we seek to unfuck a setting before millions more die from war which while unpreventable are still within our purview to mitigate.
Alright let's start with how
Absolute Monarchy In France even happened:
- 9th century civic functions (Counts, Marquis, Duke, Ect.) slowly evolved trough most of the middle ages into hereditary positions held by specific families trough a combination of corruption, war induced decentralization and political alliances. It would be like if today county mayors, sheriffs and military captains became hereditary positions because the US was repeatedly invaded by enemies while fighting multiple civil wars trough the centuries.
- By the time of Louis XIII there were only a few political factions left in France and Cardinal Richelieu (yes the one from the Three Musketeers) set into motion a sequence of events (Legal Codification of the French Core,
Edict of Fontainebleau which removed the religious protections the Huguenots enjoyed until then destroying their foundations as a political power, bribing the French Nobility with the
Palace of Versailles to give up their hereditary duties as royal representatives which were then assigned by
Jean-Baptiste Colbert to non-hereditary royal appointees which were drawn from the merchant class, the systematic removal of non-border fortifications as a cost-cutting measure that undermined the military power of the French Aristocracy, ect.) that led to Louis XIV becoming the first absolute monarch of France.
- This then had the consequence of the Absolute Monarchy relying on the merchant class to hold it up which at the same time causing a devastating brain drain of the merchant class into the
Thirteen Colonies because of the flight of the Huguenots to the future USA left a logistic network that made it easy for losing merchant families to leave France for the East Coast. This in turn led to the decline of France as a geopolitical power which then led to the crisis that was the French Revolution. Also led to the Thirteen Colonies gaining in geopolitical power to the point that they could then declare independence from the British Crown and become the USA.
So the
French Revolution happens on the 5th of May 1789 and the
French First Republic is a thing people claim existed from the 21st of September 1792 until Napoleon takes over on the 9th of November 1799 and officially creates his
First French Empire in the 18th of May 1804:
- As the political struggle between revolutionary and counter-revolutionary forces reaches it's boiling point in July of 1792 with the
Duke of Brunswick leading the Austro-Prussian Army to help the counter-revolutionaries having
Louis Joseph de Bourbon, a member of a cadet branch of the royal family, make the
Brunswick Manifesto to intimidate the populace of France into submission. Instead it is used as the excuse, the King and the Legislative Assembly were reaching a boiling point on their own, to start the
Insurrection of 10 August 1792 which led to the Legislative Assembly becoming the National Convention.
- Now historians can argue about when the
Reign of Terror started, but quite frankly I don't give a shit about their quibbles on when and whether it was a
White Terror, so I'm just going to point to
the Coup of 18 Brumaire when Napoleon basically won the battle royale between the various revolutionary factions and then proceeded to create the First French Empire.
- As for the French Republic created out of the French Revolution? It is a piece of historical fiction because whenever you look at the situation on the ground in the period before Napoleon takes over there is only the unified foreign policy that gives the French state any sort of form. Everything else is just multiple competing political organizations vying in a civil battle royale to rule France with an absolutist power.
After Napoleon Bonaparte takes over, creates the First French Empire with the goal of being a new Charlemagne (yes really) and goes on a rampage trough Europe until he is defeated and overthrown and the
Bourbon Restoration is enacted on the 3rd of May 1814 (no I am not getting into the
100 day nonsense that followed) with first
Louis XVIII and then
Charles X reigning over France gets
the 26th July of 1830 when the House of Bourbon is overthrown by
the 4th House of Orléans who then become
the Monarchs of France until the
22nd of February of 1848 when
Napoleon III first proclaimed the
French Second Republic to gather enough political capital to proclaim the
Second French Empire which then collapsed into the
Third French Republic on the 1st of September 1870 when this Napoleon got himself captured at
the Battle of Sedan:
- This entire 70-year period is one authoritarian after another playing musical chairs with the French Crown while France industrializes into a modern nation and more and more concessions are given to universal human rights in the name of maintaining their power.
- The culture of the French people is laid bare in these times: So long as their quality of life is maintained they don't care. As soon as it starts to decline they get violently revolutionary with their leadership and install whoever they believe will improve their standard of living.
The French Imperial Democracy lasted from the 1st of September of 1870 with the proclamation of the Third French Republic until the
November 28th of 1960 at which point France was actually a
Republic even if it didn't want to be and continues to try and return to it's old glory days of being a global Empire:
- The French Third Republic wasn't so much a Republic as it was the French Revolution just without the Terror this time we swear. Which meant that there were still popular generals trying to become emperors and the corruption that plagued France throughout it's existence now got to be front and center as political agitators used it to campaign for their election. What it did manage to do trough the failures of the would-be-Emperors and the slow yielding of those in power to the demands of the people for a better life is remove the sheer brutality that characterized life in France until then. There were still plenty of fascist groups that went around killing their political rivals, but at this point this wasn't an expected part of the political life which meant that the culture of France had finally shifted more to the left most of a century after the French Revolution.
-
The Nazi Occupation and
Vichy France brought back the Terror for a brief moment and then the
French Fourth Republic tried to be a continuation of the Third Republic, but it failed because of divisions opened up by WWII and necessitated a new form of government leading to the
French Fifth Republic that started as
De Gaulle's attempt to be a new Napoleon which failed because of the stillbirth of the
French Community. So now France got stuck into being an actual Republic.
In 1948 because of the propagandist need to distance themselves from the Axis powers and at the same time maintain the capitalist world order the
Five Eyes organize a
Western Union, which was supposed to be the European side of NATO, to defend their allies and interests in Europe. Instead the Western Union actually has people in Europe tired of war say hey good idea and expand it into a
Western European Union which then becomes the European Union as we know it today in the 90s and 00s:
- As the Fifth Republic got under way between De Gaulle's increasing movement to be the new Napoleon and the
Pan-European Identity rising up out of the ashes of WWII there was a shatter point where
De Gaulle threatened his resignation if
his referendum was rejected. The French people gave him the boot and after that France started to shift in direction to becoming the state people know today.
- Meanwhile with the rise of the EU came the rise of Eurosceptics and pro-Europeans shifting the web of political alliances onto the super-state that is the EU while at the same time quieting down those of the domestic political movements that couldn't get a Europe-wide reach with their actions.
As such:
I dont care leave that moralising out of the door you want to be gun ho all i am saying is be smart play the long game
And if you have no other better arguments then bub but he is monster then you wont be confincing me and i hope others as well
There is no long game without the short and the mid games. We have to start building a better society now or all we will ever have in the Koprulu Sector is one corrupt military-industrial complex after another. Valerian isn't an actual long term solution to the issues that plague human society in the Sector because for all his efforts he will be overthrown as soon as the quality of life in the Sector dips. And it will dip at some point from conservatives wanting the good old days if nothing else. We need systemic solutions so that in the third millennium there is not only war for who will sit in the chair made of melted
C-14 rifles.
