It was my understanding that the other branches would open up later but need more money to accomplish no matter what we pick.[X][CCW] You will declare for the Empress.
[X][TOA] China
[X][CtN] Accept +200 Income for the Action.
[X][ARA] Technical Research Staff (Jaeger Expands Psionic Specialties/Organic Experimentation Bonuses)
I really don't want to waste an action redoing the PR stunt. As for the twins it's better in the long term if they work with Jaeger. The medics won't be ready in time for the conflict. Plus in addition to the research bonus if we pick the Jaeger option now we get BOTH of the other options later albeit at an increased cost to them. Whereas if we pick Shinobi or medic now the other options will get locked permanently and we get no bonus.
It was my understanding that the other branches would open up later but need more money to accomplish no matter what we pick.
Edit: Euphie talks so much sense. We couldn't put a spin on china considering we don't want anyone to know.
You'll get the chance to develop the same options later on. Receiving the end result will not be automatic, you will have to spend actions, you will have to succeed at them, and they will probably cost more money in the grand scheme of things.
You get to improve your shinobi's skills very quickly with only one action, you get to develop professional psionic healers with only one action, or they become academics that teach their skills over a long period of time and open up extra research options instead.
Dude have you seen your rolls?
No we can't. We have already used that action. We can get 200 income out of it or get nothing out of it.We're better off abandoning the result on Controlling the Narrative, because we can do better than +200 Income on that action.
There is another factor that most are ignoring for the case where Lihua wins and Lelouch manages to become the Consort. That winning the civil war will decimate the Eunuchs. Who were basically managing the country. Even if they weren't good at it from our point of view (due to focusing on keeping the peasants so destitute that it would make even Britannian nobles with their practices cringe). And there is no ready source of replacements. Since Schneziel already mentioned that Britannia is short on administrators and that conquering the MEF is the limit of how far it can stretch that supply.On a different note I just realized something. A successful campaign in China will seriously alter things in Australia as well especially if we become consort. The pirates especially the minister of the bloods has been using the threat of a world war to keep either Britannia or China from wiping them out. However if a Britannian Prince becomes the Empress's consort then suddenly that threat flies out the window. It totally upends the dynamic. Given the threat of a joint Chinese/Britannian invasion some of the pirates might be willing to surrender without a fight. Maybe we could make the bloods switch sides and become the new nobility of our pacified Australia. Make it into something like Euro-Britannia…Oz-Britannia.
We won't be getting a second go at the action if we accept it. Because it means Lelouch is accepting the result and finishing that project. So we only get to spend the extra income on something else.Next turn we get another action which we can either use on something relevant to that turn or effectively 'spend' 200 income to use that second action trying to improve this result.
You seem to be missing the point entirely.We won't be getting a second go at the action if we accept it. Because it means Lelouch is accepting the result and finishing that project. So we only get to spend the extra income on something else.
That isn't correct actually, according to the following quote.So we get another roll at an action and 200 income. Or we get another roll at an action and no income.
There will be an option to throw the result out and reschedule next year for another attempt.
That quote in now way suggests we will get a free action. Nor does the actual vote choice indicate such.That isn't correct actually, according to the following quote.
We aren't saying it will be a free action. We are saying that if we reject then we can take the "Controlling the Narrative" action again to try and get a better result.That quote in now way suggests we will get a free action. Nor does the actual vote choice indicate such.
It gives us the opportunity to try again.
So we get another roll at an action and 200 income. Or we get another roll at an action and no income.
Accept - You get 200 income from now on, the action is complete, next turn do something else.
Reject - You DO NOT get 200 income, the action is incomplete, next turn you can choose to do the action again.
Yes. Next year, while our forces are likely still engaged in civil war duties or undergoing repairs from our naval battle as a result of our attack on the Eunoch's forces. Our situation of still having most of the staff and military personnel committed in a civil war which will not rap up in a single year will totally not negatively influence the outcome.There will be an option to throw the result out and reschedule next year for another attempt.
I'll try to remember to do that.@Slayer Anderson Will the update to the SL page include Milly's specialty? Since I don't think it was ever put into a single phrase. In a similar way how Euphy got her specialties written out.
There was a post comparing Euphy, Kaguya and Milly for Diplomacy and Stewardship positions where it was hinted Milly will be military themed when it comes to her projects.
That's not the case. Meianmaru has the right of it:This talk about learning research options jogged something in my memory. During Turn 5 (Phase II) we only managed to get the second tier of Madman's Thesis. So I have to ask.
@Slayer Anderson Are the expanded learning options opened by the siblings becoming Technical Research Staff what we missed that time and this is basically an potential option to unlock that research due to crit? Or would any research be a side path?
And if not. Will completing both available Jeager trees open the path we missed during the next roll for projects (most likely as a lower tier? Or will that path be gone forever?
I remember that it was mentioned that unless we failed spectacularly in reverse engineering the Gawain we would get options to try again later after some other developments would make the project feasible if we failed a tier. I was wondering if this was an example of a similar mechanic.
EDIT: Why I think it is likely? Projects to study the biology, genetics and neurology of psionic talents would be something that Jeager would want to do but due to being on the run wouldn't be able to get the subjects to even start the basic research. While his other two projects most likely already had some literature. And he most likely didn't want to propose human experimentation projects so soon after getting his new job. He might be mad but isn't stupid and didn't know then how Lelouch would react.
EDIT2: I know it was partially answered then but I'm curious if that research offered by the siblings is something that Jaeger might do in a future tree. Or if anything changed from those ancient times (almost 3 years ago).
Unlocking more of Jaeger's tech tree will come later.Slayer, if you find it annoying for me to try answer question directed at you just say and I will stop. But meanwhile:
From what I remember or can guess... Opening up the previously failed research paths will be most likely available to be rolled again later with lowered difficulties after we complete enough(?) of our already opened research brances. Which might apply also to some(?) other research projects that have tiered success goals.
On what Jaeger's still locked research might be: how would Lelouch know? If Jaeger doesn't feel confident enough about presenting it, Lelouch won't likely have the means to come up with any kind of firm conclusions. And not much reason to delve deeper, while his timetable is always so busy.
Based on previous answers to these kinds of questions? Most likely no, to both make the choices meaningful and reduce headaches for the QM with the extra complexities it would cause. In-quest reasoning would most likely be something along the lines of the siblings settling to whatever occupation they themselves chose, and making a career out of it instead of jumping between what they do which would lead them to accomplishing less in any particular field they try. Or so I'd at least guess?
Because by that logic I should just let you all have permanent access to the option and keep doing it every year for free income, since something new will always be happening in Lelouch's life. Bluntly, I really don't want to keep dealing with the same action being farmed over and over again as a way to break income barriers.@Slayer Anderson honestly I find myself curious as to why we couldn't just accept the money now and do it again later anyway. It's not like we wouldn't have cause to run another PR campaign once Lelouch took out some Pirates and expanded his territory or in the aftermath of a successful CF Civil War conclusion in which lelouch took over the management of some CF Coastal region. Would this or a similar option not be available in a couple of turns anyway, given the amount of change ahead?