Semper Ad Meliora (Code Geass/Britannian Royalty Quest)

[X] Written Acknowledgement of your claims in Australia within the treaty (DC 75)
[X] Docking & Passage Rights for Britannian Naval Vessels in Indonesia (DC 75)
[X] Formal Position as Military Advisor to the Indonesian Confederation (DC 50)

It looks like my third choice has essentially no chance at winning, but I will be happy enough if I get my first two choices.
 
looks like my question what happens with equal votes was more fitting than i expected since we currently got a first place and 2 second places :o

though if slayers going by slayers hint that equal votes are not going to be ruled to our detriment it might be a good idea to keep it that way and possibly get more bonus points for our second place votes :)
 
[X] Written Acknowledgement of your claims in Australia within the treaty (DC 75)
[X] A Chinese Federation Title and Noble Patent (DC 90)
[X] Docking & Passage Rights for Britannian Naval Vessels in Indonesia (DC 75)
 
[X] Written Acknowledgement of your claims in Australia within the treaty (DC 75)
[X] Docking & Passage Rights for Britannian Naval Vessels in Indonesia (DC 75)
[X] A Chinese Federation Title and Noble Patent (DC 90)
 
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[X] Written Acknowledgement of your claims in Australia within the treaty (DC 75)
[X] Docking & Passage Rights for Britannian Naval Vessels in Indonesia (DC 75)
[X] A Chinese Federation Title and Noble Patent (DC 90)
 
[X] A Chinese Port, Leased for 100 Years for services rendered (DC 150)
[X] A Chinese Federation Title and Noble Patent (DC 90)
[X] Docking & Passage Rights for Britannian Naval Vessels in Indonesia (DC 75)

A Chinese Port with Chinese Rights and increased Britannian access to the area is a solid combo I think.
 
[X] Written Acknowledgement of your claims in Australia within the treaty (DC 75)
[X] Arrange permission to conduct 'joint exercises' with CF units in the future, with yourself in charge (DC 70)
[X] A Preferential Trading License to ignore duties and customs in Indonesian Ports (DC 80)
 
Voting will remain open until further notice. Probably at least nine hours or so.
Adhoc vote count started by Firebringer2077 on Jul 25, 2020 at 5:37 PM, finished with 95 posts and 59 votes.
 
[X] Written Acknowledgement of your claims in Australia within the treaty (DC 75)
[X] Docking & Passage Rights for Britannian Naval Vessels in Indonesia (DC 75)
[X] A Preferential Trading License to ignore duties and customs in Indonesian Ports (DC 80)
 
@Slayer Anderson do the noble patent tax breaks extend to customs and duties? Because if so the noble patent removes the need for the teading license.

[X] Written Acknowledgement of your claims in Australia within the treaty (DC 75)
[X] Docking & Passage Rights for Britannian Naval Vessels in Indonesia (DC 75)
[X] A Chinese Federation Title and Noble Patent (DC 90)
 
[X] An Indonesian Port, Leased for 100 Years for services rendered (DC 100)
[X] Docking & Passage Rights for Britannian Naval Vessels in Indonesia (DC 75)
[X] Written Acknowledgement of your claims in Australia within the treaty (DC 75)
 
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@Slayer Anderson do the noble patent tax breaks extend to customs and duties? Because if so the noble patent removes the need for the teading license.
It only extends to internal duties and customs within the Federation, really. Granted, with how big the Federation is, that's a significant boon still, but... it doesn't apply to the Federation's client states. The client states aren't like Britannian Areas, as I said earlier. Their main function is to help support the central Federation government and while they acknowledge some of the rights and privileges that nobility within the Federation have, those are extremely limited outside of the Federation proper.

What having a CF title would do in the IC or India would basically free you from taxation on the land you own and the men you keep to guard it and your possessions.

I will say that the noble title would allow you to trade in the IC (even if you would still have to pay taxes and duties), whereas normally there are a number of protective treaties and barriers which would prevent a foreigner such as yourself from participating at all, but the permission you've got from the Empress already bypasses many of those.

The trading license will remove what native IC barriers still apply to you, cut duties and taxes significantly, and be far more expansive if what materials you have permission to import/export.

They have synergistic effects, it should go without saying, but there's not as much overlap as you propose.
 
[X] A Preferential Trading License to ignore duties and customs in Indonesian Ports (DC 80)
[X] Docking & Passage Rights for Britannian Naval Vessels in Indonesia (DC 75)
[X] Flat Payout for Services Rendered jointly from the IC & CF (DC 30)
[X] Weigh in to modify the trade terms in favor of the IC, allowing them a stronger position (DC 80)

Hey ummm is it the authors decision where to spend omake bonuses? Because I do not see any of these treaty options being worth spending bonuses on. Not trying to tell anyone what to do just weighing in with my opinion.
 
Hey ummm is it the authors decision where to spend omake bonuses? Because I do not see any of these treaty options being worth spending bonuses on. Not trying to tell anyone what to do just weighing in with my opinion.
My stated policy on omake bonuses is that I use them to make success increase to the next tier of reward, if possible or I use them to boost failures to passing levels, again if possible.

That rule applies to almost any roll made in the quest. My justification is that if the issue is important enough to hold a vote over, it's important enough to spend a bonus on if it fails. Given that I try very hard not to hold extraneous votes, and the impressive luck generated by my traitorous dice, there's actually a fair backlog of bonuses. Currently there are seven of each (+10) & (+15) in reserve.

I wouldn't worry about it overmuch, even if you don't think the rewards on the table at the moment are currently worth it.
Thank you for the clarification
You're welcome.
 
Would there be any problems from accepting a title of nobility in a foreign country? I seem to recall a real life British officer was disparaged for accepting knighthood from a foreign country he aided.
 
[X] Docking & Passage Rights for Britannian Naval Vessels in Indonesia (DC 75)
[X] Formal Position as Military Advisor to the Indonesian Confederation (DC 50)
[X] Written Acknowledgement of your claims in Australia within the treaty (DC 75)
 
[X] A Chinese Federation Title and Noble Patent (DC 90)

I really, really want this option for the opportunities it presents us. Becoming the Britianian Ambassador, becoming the power behind the throne, perhaps setting ourselves up for a political marriage (on paper), etc...

[X] A Preferential Trading License to ignore duties and customs in Indonesian Ports (DC 80)

Great profit and a cover for our Sakuidit production? Sold!

[X] Written Acknowledgement of your claims in Australia within the treaty (DC 75)

More backing for what constitutes our current goal is a worthwhile investment.
 
Would there be any problems from accepting a title of nobility in a foreign country? I seem to recall a real life British officer was disparaged for accepting knighthood from a foreign country he aided.
...trying to sum up the issue in simple terms so I don't go on a long-winded rant.

Okay, so there are multiple facets to take into consideration when discussing something like this. One of those is whether or not the individual in question already possesses a title or not.

If they don't, nobility is looked upon as a higher calling a 'mere' officer position in the armed forces. Even something as simple as a knighthood raises question of what a commoner's first priority is going to be should they find themselves in a position of conflicting loyalties. Are they going to honor their oath of service to their superiors or will they decide that their future would be better following the path of a ruler who has raised their social status?

Because, not to put too fine a point on it, but most nobility would do the latter, so even with the most loyal of commoner officers, possessing a foreign title of nobility, even one which is non-hereditary, is deeply suspicious.

Now, if the individual in question is already nobility, the question to ask is which title is higher? The domestic one or the foreign one? In Lelouch's case, he's a prince. Not only that, but he's not actually part of the formal military structure. So not only does he generally not have access to information in the empire's chain of command as a normal officer would, especially a high-ranking one, but he's also far more incentivized to see to his responsibilities as a prince than as a relatively low-ranked noble, so it's foolish to doubt his loyalty to the empire in light of that.

In other words, at Lelouch's rank, a foreign noble title of little stature is essentially an interesting bauble to brag about, but nothing which should really invite envy or suspicion. If Lelouch were to ever be elevated in the Chinese court to an equivalent position of Duke or adopted into the royal family... then people will start to talk about divided loyalties.

So the answer to your question is dependent on context, a lot.
 
Would there be any problems from accepting a title of nobility in a foreign country? I seem to recall a real life British officer was disparaged for accepting knighthood from a foreign country he aided.

If we weren't literal Britannian Royalty, there would be a lot of potential issues.

As it is, if we make a bid for the Throne, our foreign connections will be a double edged sword within the politics of it. On one hand, we would have more influence on the CF. On the other, the CF would have more influence on us. Some may leverage it as a point of potential CF puppeting through us, but I don't doubt that we'd manage to decisively settle the issue if it came up.

But again, literal Royalty. If anyone is seriously casting aspirations on us due to our hypothetical CF Noble Title then we've got much bigger issues going on.
 
[X] Written Acknowledgement of your claims in Australia within the treaty (DC 75)
[X] Docking & Passage Rights for Britannian Naval Vessels in Indonesia (DC 75)
[X] A Chinese Federation Title and Noble Patent (DC 90)
 
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