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Res Publica: A Quest of Ancient Rome

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PyrrosWarrior said:
Obvious leads are obvious :p
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Thanks for the tally, but yikes that's clunky to read. Approval voting works best with 'task' voting, but currently, people voting for multiple plans are treated as though their vote is for an entirely new plan, so their votes aren't counted under either of the plans they support. We'll need to adjust the tally manually to figure out the accurate numbers.


At the moment, here's the correct vote count:

Plan Publicola - 12
Plan Love of the Legion and various Studies - 8
Plan Firm Foundations - 5
Plan Publicola Plus - 3
Plan Off with the gloves - 3
Plan Make Connections and Study v2 - 2
Plan The Power Of Friendship - 1
Plan Destiny - 1
Plan Conquer the Sea - 1
Plan Carpe Legium et Potestatem - 1
Plan Publicola(Proserpina Edition) - 1
 
[X] Plan Love of the Legion and various Studies

[X] Plan Off with the gloves

Sorry, as far as I'm concerned the Scipians is a waste of our valuable time and I think we have better things to do and better options than asking the random woman talking about the future. It's not like the Sybil told Gemino anything of value. Her 'be afraid of Atellus' prophecy didn't impress me.
 
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[X] Plan Off with the gloves

Just reposting my vote to avoid voting for love of the legion, as I previously had my vote tied to Thyreus.
 
Teen Spirit said:
You realize every time you post things like this it just makes people like me want another quest. Though I can't even imagine how an Etruscan Quest would even work.
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Res Publica was literally three seconds away from being a Rome civ quest, but then I realized I really wanted to write about Caesar and Cicero.

Also I think running a Rome civ quest would make me contractually obligated to fight Cetashwayo in single combat to the death, Highlander-style.

There can only be one.
 
Publicola said:
Thanks for the tally, but yikes that's clunky to read. Approval voting works best with 'task' voting, but currently, people voting for multiple plans are treated as though their vote is for an entirely new plan, so their votes aren't counted under either of the plans they support. We'll need to adjust the tally manually to figure out the accurate numbers.
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Thank you for the info, and sorry. I thought task voting only worked when you preface a vote with [example]. I will do so in the future.
 
Telamon said:
Res Publica was literally three seconds away from being a Rome civ quest, but then I realized I really wanted to write about Caesar and Cicero.

Also I think running a Rome civ quest would make me contractually obligated to fight Cetashwayo in single combat to the death, Highlander-style.

There can only be one.
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Oh I can absolutely understand why, you got plenty of sources and interesting personalities to work with plus a lot of documentation on things worked. If you did something like the Etruscans, or Minoans or Mycenaeans you'd be having to make up both people and entire aspects of culture up whole cloth and you wouldn't have people like Sulla, Cicero, Caesar and Pompey to work with either.
 
The late republic is probably the most well-sourced and clear period of antiquity. By comparison my quest set in the classical period requires me to make shit up or rely on little more than a name or an archaeological record as the basis of entire storylines outside the Peloponnesian War where we rely on Thucydides. Both freeing and quite frustrating as I would prefer to preserve the flavor of the era but sometimes the record itself can only offer a bland narrative.
 
Oh, right, I forgot approval voting is fucked due to redesign. I guess we can tally by line, and then just select lines with the plan vote from the tally?
Publicola said:
Thanks for the tally, but yikes that's clunky to read. Approval voting works best with 'task' voting, but currently, people voting for multiple plans are treated as though their vote is for an entirely new plan, so their votes aren't counted under either of the plans they support. We'll need to adjust the tally manually to figure out the accurate numbers.


At the moment, here's the correct vote count:

Plan Publicola - 12
Plan Love of the Legion and various Studies - 8
Plan Firm Foundations - 5
Plan Publicola Plus - 3
Plan Off with the gloves - 3
Plan Make Connections and Study v2 - 2
Plan The Power Of Friendship - 1
Plan Destiny - 1
Plan Conquer the Sea - 1
Plan Carpe Legium et Potestatem - 1
Plan Publicola(Proserpina Edition) - 1
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My method gives me this:
Plan Publicola - 12 votes.
Plan Love of the Legion and various Studies - 10 votes.
Plan Firm Foundations - 5 votes.
Plan Publicola Plus - 4 votes.
Plan Off with the gloves - 3 votes.
Plan Make Connections and Study v2 - 2 votes.
Plan The Power Of Friendship - 1 vote.
Plan Carpe Legium et Potestatem - 1 vote.
Plan Destiny - 1 vote.
Plan Conquer the Sea - 1 vote.
Plan Publicola(Proserpina Edition) - 1 vote.
 
Cetashwayo said:
The late republic is probably the most well-sourced and clear period of antiquity. By comparison my quest set in the classical period requires me to make shit up or rely on little more than a name or an archaeological record as the basis of entire storylines outside the Peloponnesian War where we rely on Thucydides. Both freeing and quite frustrating as I would prefer to preserve the flavor of the era but sometimes the record itself can only offer a bland narrative.
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i love your greek city quests thank you for your writing(sorry off topic)
 
Personally I feel like the quests do two different things. Telamon is writing a wonderful immersive narrative set in a more familiar era, but with an intense attention to especially character detail which puts it a cut above. My main focus tends to be more societal as a civ quest, but I also focus much more on obscure or lesser known regions or peoples of antiquity and zoom in intensely to what I think is a more authentic image of the classical Mediterranean than what people are used to.
 
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Cetashwayo said:
Personally I feel like the quests do two different things. Telamon is writing a wonderful immersive narrative set in a more familiar era, but with an intense attention to especially character detail which puts it a cut above. My main focus tends to be more societal as a civ quest, but I also focus much more on obscure or lesser known regions or peoples of antiquity and which zooms in intensely to what I think is a more authentic image of the classical Mediterranean than what people are used to.
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both are unique it brings out the story and makes it really hard to take from your mind as it brings things to life as you read it to yourself.


Sorry typing so fast
 
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Salo said:
i love your greek city quests thank you for your writing(sorry off topic)
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As Magna Graecia and Hellas are all rightful dominions of Rome, discussing them is perfectly on-topic. :V

Cetashwayo said:
Personally I feel like the quests do two different things. Telamon is writing a wonderful immersive narrative set in a more familiar era, but with an intense attention to especially character detail which puts it a cut above. My main focus tends to be more societal as a civ quest, but I also focus much more on obscure or lesser known regions or peoples of antiquity and zoom in intensely to what I think is a more authentic image of the classical Mediterranean than what people are used to.
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Probably my main goal with this quest is to take an era dominated in public thought by 'great men', by big names like Marius and Sulla and Caesar and Pompey (and, finally, Augustus) and show how their world really worked, how their rise to power was not some inevitable destiny borne of divine greatness as they and many historians would have you believe. Rather, it was the result of a failing system, of crumbling laws and inefficient aristocrats, of self-serving cowards and noble men too blinded by tradition to fix the problems that needed to be fixed. The story of the fall of the Roman Republic is not the story of Gaius Julius Caesar, or the story of Marcus Licinius Crassus. It is not even the story of Quintus Cingulatus Atellus.

It is, like all civilizations and all stories, the story of people.

Your quest is a story of people, too, just from a different perspective. Events in classical antiquity are often portrayed so clinically in history: "Athens was upset with Thebes, so they went to war", and Magna Graecia really portrays the changing outward and inward social pressures which leads people to make choices that may be recorded in history books centuries later. It's just really good at showing how a city and a civilization grows over the years, ever-changing but still itself.

Also, as a history nerd, I just appreciate the symbolism of naming a quest where a city of Magna Gracia grows powerful and influential enough to perhaps challenge the Greek city-states which fathered it after the Titanomachy (where the gods of Olympus rose up and slew the Titans who fathered them).
 
[X] Plan Firm Foundations
[X] Plan Love of the Legion and various Studies

from the ashes of war we survive.
 
Telamon said:
The weeping Virgin claimed that she had been visited by Mars himself, the red-handed god of war, and he had lain with her. The children in her womb were of no mortal seed, but the heirs of a god.
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I can't believe you left out the bit where Mars appears to her by flying out of her sacred fire in the form of a disembodied phallus.
 
@Telamon, how is that pre-hiatus XP-post coming along? After this much patting each other's back my shoulder feels cold and I feel the need to pat myself there. :p

(I'm totally not worried that we mess up in the Mithridatic War and am pushing for more XP because of that)
 
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Alright, so the 3 frontrunners atm are Publicola, Firm Foundations, and Studies/Love. Time to begin direct debate.

Firstly; firm foundations does not provide us with a firm foundation. Not doing A Law Beyond the Sword, our actual job, leaves the legion without a justice system for our entire stay in the city. This is done with the intent of ensuring our men do not suffer from the cold, but the biggest selling point of "make terms" is that it lets us ensure that Cassianus is filling in for us in areas where we are weak and not contesting us where we are strong. Because Make Terms will ensure that law is our jurisdiction, he will be unable to fill in at all in that area (or we do give him law, locking us out of it). Thus; Make Terms and not doing A Law Beyond the Sword is one of the worst possible combination for legion morale and trust.
 
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